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  1. #12261
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSin  [View Original Post]
    And for all of us to keep in mind, newer cars are trackable as well.
    Everything is trackable. It's just if this unit is actually doing it.

  2. #12260

    Tina lake county

    Just a heads up Tina from lake county is in lake county jail for drugs and soliciting so be careful out there guys.

  3. #12259

    pings and pongs

    You do not have to remove the battery. Every phone has a location device setting. Turning it off stops the phone from being located. Its basically your gps of the phone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy5  [View Original Post]
    Turning off a cell phone will not stop it from sending out a location in the case of most phones. It is necessary to remove the battery then the phone has no power to send location data.

  4. #12258
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1176

    Girls cooperating with the stiing.

    I have known several women who are in the business and who also engage in low level dealing to help support their habits. And I'm not talking about nun's suspenders, LOL.

    They would score several decks of dope from their dealer and then resell them on the street to make some extra money. So I'm sure they get popped from time to time, and so if that happens its not just a possession, its possession with intent to distribute which of course means real jail time, especially if she has a sheet. She might be afraid to rat out a dealer since she knows she will be back on the street at some point, but you can bet your ass the pigs will find it much easier to use her in a sting. And she will not be afraid of retribution from guys like us.

    Thats why when you're out in the environment you have to take precautions, even with a known provider, especially if you know that she has a habit.

    Cheech.

  5. #12257

    Reached out

    I was nervous about it. But I'm sure that she's having a rough time. She always treated me right, so I reached out and sent her a gift.

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterJao  [View Original Post]
    A while ago, someone asked whether anyone had gone to see Natalie since she had her leg amputated. I don't recall ever seeing any replies. Hasn't anyone paid her a visit?

    https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/f...k/029429572896

  6. #12256

    Thinking

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterJao  [View Original Post]
    A while ago, someone asked whether anyone had gone to see Natalie since she had her leg amputated. I don't recall ever seeing any replies. Hasn't anyone paid her a visit?

    https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/f...k/029429572896
    She was one of my regulars. I've been out of circulation for a while but I m considering giving her a try. I'll let you know if I pull the trigger. She's a good kid.

  7. #12255

    Finally some good news

    Off topic from all the other shit got to see Britney this afternoon. No drama, no sign of any of the other bad things that had been mentioned. BBBJ CFS.

    No better feeling then scoring while everything that has been going on is going on.

    C92.

  8. #12254
    Quote Originally Posted by CleveLoser  [View Original Post]
    I wonder if they track burner apps too. Probably if they are going to the trouble to track actual cell phones. Sounds like if they want to get you then they will.

    And yes, when I am meeting someone new I often have my finger on the burner uninstall as I approach but I get super paranoid and nervous.
    And for all of us to keep in mind, newer cars are trackable as well.

  9. #12253
    Quote Originally Posted by Chunks92  [View Original Post]
    The key element with these modern stings ever since the law passed is that they can track the guy through their cell phone, and the arrests are performed immediately now, either with the cops dragging the guy out of the car or the room is full of cops upon entering the hotel room, with no decoy or offer made such as in past operations. I have yet to figure out how exactly they do this tracking thing although I am trying. The first example of this was the 2nd akron sting, they actually arrested a guy 23 miles from the sting house if you look at the arrest location it was a random address in the middle of the road. My speculation is that he got close, left, and then they went and found him. You would have to literally have your finger on the burn button for an app or just be prepared to discard your phone altogether. Ironically its my belief that their illegal arrests actually help the guy out when it comes to court, if they waited for an offer the guy would be convicted, but because they are now arresting illegally before the guy even does anything wrong over half the guys in that sting for example got dismissed, and the rest reduced. at the end of the day there is nothing illegal about meeting a woman online.
    I wonder if they track burner apps too. Probably if they are going to the trouble to track actual cell phones. Sounds like if they want to get you then they will.

    And yes, when I am meeting someone new I often have my finger on the burner uninstall as I approach but I get super paranoid and nervous.

  10. #12252
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSin  [View Original Post]
    Excellent plan, especially with women who may reluctantly go along with a sting to have charges, I. E. , possession or anything else, reduced and since there seems to be a considerable amount of substance use I have frequently thought about such a possibility.
    I can think of several ladies right off top of my head that we all here have seen that would probably do such a thing. Others not so much. But you still never know. All of them are guilty until proven innocent in that department is the way I look at that scenario.

  11. #12251
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafter17  [View Original Post]
    It was a little odd that the newspaper didn't say how he was busted. Usually the say if it was from an ad. I'm guessing they didn't say it was from ad because they are hoping to get more guys.
    Brief story on 19 news about it last night said it was a sting operation, but no further info.

  12. #12250
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1285

    The Question of "Pings":

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheech1  [View Original Post]
    OK, so a question about tracking a phone.

    My understanding is that every 10 seconds or so cellphones send out a signal, lets call it a "ping. ".

    This ping gets picked up by every cell tower in range and enables the phone to establish its position in the system so that calls to it are routed to the nearest tower. So, therefore the system constantly has the location of every cellphone in the world, (yes, it is essentially a worldwide system) in its memory banks.

    Included in this data is the very precise direction from which the signal came. 2 or at the most 3 pieces of data from separate towers can then be used to triangulate the location of the phone, and the more towers in an area like a city, the more precise the location will be. The gestapo can get this data from the transmission companies without too much difficulty, and if they have the equipment they can pinpoint the location of a phone very precisely in real time. They can also access data that tells where that phone has been for who the hell knows how far back, months at the least, probably years.

    So from this we can see that the only way to not be tracked is to turn the phone off. And, I believe that even when its turned off the phone continues to send this ping. That tells me that you must remove the battery from the phone to really turn it off.

    Using 2 separate phones can solve this problem, 1 to set up the date then leave it somewhere, and another to confirm address and so on if you must do that.

    My solution to this problem, I'm very careful about what I say on the phone, I'm just picking a girl up for a dinner date. I don't use the woman's facilities, I always get a room. Of course, they are now using the mere reply to an ad as probable cause to arrest, so since the phone you used to reply to the ad isn't with you it can't be used as an inference. And if you get the addy and set the time then you shouldn't have to confirm, if she ghosts on you that's the price of the game which we must accept.

    Cheech1
    Turning off a cell phone will not stop it from sending out a location in the case of most phones. It is necessary to remove the battery then the phone has no power to send location data.

  13. #12249
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheech1  [View Original Post]
    OK, so a question about tracking a phone.

    My understanding is that every 10 seconds or so cellphones send out a signal, lets call it a "ping. ".

    This ping gets picked up by every cell tower in range and enables the phone to establish its position in the system so that calls to it are routed to the nearest tower. So, therefore the system constantly has the location of every cellphone in the world, (yes, it is essentially a worldwide system) in its memory banks.

    Included in this data is the very precise direction from which the signal came. 2 or at the most 3 pieces of data from separate towers can then be used to triangulate the location of the phone, and the more towers in an area like a city, the more precise the location will be. The gestapo can get this data from the transmission companies without too much difficulty, and if they have the equipment they can pinpoint the location of a phone very precisely in real time. They can also access data that tells where that phone has been for who the hell knows how far back, months at the least, probably years.

    So from this we can see that the only way to not be tracked is to turn the phone off. And, I believe that even when its turned off the phone continues to send this ping. That tells me that you must remove the battery from the phone to really turn it off.

    Using 2 separate phones can solve this problem, 1 to set up the date then leave it somewhere, and another to confirm address and so on if you must do that.

    My solution to this problem, I'm very careful about what I say on the phone, I'm just picking a girl up for a dinner date. I don't use the woman's facilities, I always get a room. Of course, they are now using the mere reply to an ad as probable cause to arrest, so since the phone you used to reply to the ad isn't with you it can't be used as an inference. And if you get the addy and set the time then you shouldn't have to confirm, if she ghosts on you that's the price of the game which we must accept.

    Cheech1
    Excellent plan, especially with women who may reluctantly go along with a sting to have charges, I. E. , possession or anything else, reduced and since there seems to be a considerable amount of substance use I have frequently thought about such a possibility.

  14. #12248
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1176

    Tracking

    Quote Originally Posted by Chunks92  [View Original Post]
    The key element with these modern stings ever since the law passed is that they can track the guy through their cell phone, and the arrests are performed immediately now, either with the cops dragging the guy out of the car or the room is full of cops upon entering the hotel room, with no decoy or offer made such as in past operations. I have yet to figure out how exactly they do this tracking thing although I am trying. The first example of this was the 2nd akron sting, they actually arrested a guy 23 miles from the sting house if you look at the arrest location it was a random address in the middle of the road. My speculation is that he got close, left, and then they went and found him. You would have to literally have your finger on the burn button for an app or just be prepared to discard your phone altogether. Ironically its my belief that their illegal arrests actually help the guy out when it comes to court, if they waited for an offer the guy would be convicted, but because they are now arresting illegally before the guy even does anything wrong over half the guys in that sting for example got dismissed, and the rest reduced. at the end of the day there is nothing illegal about meeting a woman online.
    OK, so a question about tracking a phone.

    My understanding is that every 10 seconds or so cellphones send out a signal, lets call it a "ping. ".

    This ping gets picked up by every cell tower in range and enables the phone to establish its position in the system so that calls to it are routed to the nearest tower. So, therefore the system constantly has the location of every cellphone in the world, (yes, it is essentially a worldwide system) in its memory banks.

    Included in this data is the very precise direction from which the signal came. 2 or at the most 3 pieces of data from separate towers can then be used to triangulate the location of the phone, and the more towers in an area like a city, the more precise the location will be. The gestapo can get this data from the transmission companies without too much difficulty, and if they have the equipment they can pinpoint the location of a phone very precisely in real time. They can also access data that tells where that phone has been for who the hell knows how far back, months at the least, probably years.

    So from this we can see that the only way to not be tracked is to turn the phone off. And, I believe that even when its turned off the phone continues to send this ping. That tells me that you must remove the battery from the phone to really turn it off.

    Using 2 separate phones can solve this problem, 1 to set up the date then leave it somewhere, and another to confirm address and so on if you must do that.

    My solution to this problem, I'm very careful about what I say on the phone, I'm just picking a girl up for a dinner date. I don't use the woman's facilities, I always get a room. Of course, they are now using the mere reply to an ad as probable cause to arrest, so since the phone you used to reply to the ad isn't with you it can't be used as an inference. And if you get the addy and set the time then you shouldn't have to confirm, if she ghosts on you that's the price of the game which we must accept.

    Cheech1

  15. #12247
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSin  [View Original Post]
    I suspected the ad was fake even before I read about the councilman who I learned about earlier today from a friend.
    It was a little odd that the newspaper didn't say how he was busted. Usually the say if it was from an ad. I'm guessing they didn't say it was from ad because they are hoping to get more guys.

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