Rants and Raves

[I Luv Emall]

We're all better off with that fucker out of the armed forces. Hope it shakes out all the assholes that think like he does.

Which one are you talking about? Or did you even bother to read?

[I Luv Emall]

You asked for peer-reviewed research, of which I'd already given multiple examples, and I gave you that. You asked for reputable sources, of which I'd already given multiple examples, and I gave you a publication from the NIH site. You know as well as I do the purpose of peer-review is to weed-out false scientific data and premises, and yet you reject what the medical community did not because in your opinion "it's most likely fraudulent". Ok, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, even if it goes against that of the peer-reviewed community. I can relate to it, because as I'm sure you've picked up on, I'm a skeptic myself. I think the real-world data also demonstrates otherwise, and I've given examples of that here and it can be seen by looking at the regions of India that used Ivermectin vs. The regions that did not. It's quite dramatic. But like the vaccines, I don't think there's much point in us arguing, because we have our opinions and only time is going to tell the story and change those opinions. In any event, even if we don't agree, I can respect that you've laid out your rationale and the basis for it.

Regarding your elite argument, I'll say again we really have no idea what the elite are actually doing. I will note that Congress and the Executives exempted themselves from the vaccine mandate- I found that quite hypocritical. We do know Trump got the monoclonol antibodies, and we know several elites that have also gotten those. Because of the campaign that's been waged against it, everyone is afraid to admit to using Ivermectin, as just like you did, they are made fun of for taking "horse medicine". This is an intentional shame and disinformation campaign on the administration's and media's part, and it was obviously effective on you, based on your earlier condemning posts where you clearly knew nothing about the facts of ivermectin except what you heard from the media.

Let's let time tell the story.

Its "nothing new, the information has been out there" is because it already investigated and dismissed:

The problem is, if you look at those large, aggregate models, and remove just this single study, ivermectin loses almost all of its purported benefit. Take the recent meta-analysis by Bryant et al. That has been all over the news they found a 62% reduction in risk of death for people who were treated with ivermectin compared to controls when combining randomized trials.

However, if you remove the Elgazzar paper from their model, and rerun it, the benefit goes from 62% to 52%, and largely loses its statistical significance. There's no benefit seen whatsoever for people who have severe COVID-19, and the confidence intervals for people with mild and moderate disease become extremely wide.

Moreover, if you include another study that was published after the Bryant meta-analysis came out, which found no benefit for ivermectin on death, the benefits seen in the model entirely disappear. For another recent meta-analysis, simply excluding Elgazzar is enough to remove the positive effect entirely.

The "proof" of Ivermectin's efficacy comes entirely from the Bryant meta-analysis of studies, but if you exclude the Elgazzar study, or even include one additional study, the effect disappears.

https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermect...h-5cc079278602

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.c...1-06348-5#Sec2

https://journals.lww.com/americanthe...ment_of.7.aspx

https://mobile.twitter.com/GidMK/sta...218448896?s=20

If you run enough studies, the odds are that one of them will eventually show an effect even if there isn't one. Then you just need to cherrypick and limit the meta-analysis to disproportionately reflect those studies. Except its not even that:

The Elgazzar study is most likely fraudulent and bears all the hallmarks of such. Where the Elgazzar study is the big keystone Ivermectin study that other scientific papers build off of. There is no vast consensus of studies for Ivermectin, just the Elgazzar study, the Bryant meta-study that cites Elgazzar, and other papers citing one or both of them in turn.

However there is a much simpler test, one I've mentioned before, for handling conspiracy theories, and that is to look at what the plutocrats who rule society do. Ask yourself. How many elected officials have gotten vaccinated? Then ask yourself, how many have taken Ivermectin? To my knowledge the answer to the former is "a lot" and the answer to the latter is "little to none, even including those who actually got Covid-19". If there was a miracle cure-all, the plutocrats would take it. The plutocrats got vaccinated and didn't take ivermectin. Ergo, vaccination is the miracle cure, not ivermectin.

Note for comparison the mono-clonal antibodies you mention. Regeneron's expensive experimental drug did in fact got grabbed for use by the rich at the first available opportunity. No one disputes that they work. The issue is that they aren't a miracle cure. Regeneron's treatment costs something like $1,600 a use, can only be used on those who already have it, and when used mitigates the effects of Covid-19 moreso than curing it outright. Vaccination by comparison is free, drastically reduces the odds of getting it in the first place thus building up herd immunity, and drastically reduces the chances of death if you do get it.

Mono-clonal antibodies are a useful complement to vaccination by filling in the gaps on the rare occasions where Covid-19 gets lucky, but they're no substitute for it. The more people that get vaccines, the fewer people that will get sick or especially very sick, which allows for scarce and expensive treatments like mono-clonal antibodies to be targeted on those unlucky few that got sick regardless of vaccination.

So no I don't think I will be eating Crow any time soon.😁

[HobbyMan51]

You're frustrated from all the losing that you've been experiencing. How none of the stupid shit you've been saying all along has materialized in any way.

Chin up skippy. We'll need you looking upwards while pissing on your sad, oddly shaped noggin.

The usual puerile drivel from you. We won't lose forever. You know it too. If I can I will personally make sure you know it.

[RogerOver]

Some other examples of the armed forces feeling undermined by this administration:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army...over-vaccines/

https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/navy-com...curity-threat/

Point #1 on Commander Furman's list above is exactly what I've been talking about with risk assessment. Some people get it.

We're all better off with that fucker out of the armed forces. Hope it shakes out all the assholes that think like he does.

[TheRabbit]

From the NIH website, for which Fauci works, and the American Journal of Therapeutics comes a peer-reviewed study that concludes "The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally. ".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art..._campaign=Good+News+Friday+-+Sept+24+(344287948)&utm_content=.

For all those who accused me of spreading false information from unreliable sources, I'd say it's time to eat some crow. In reality, this is nothing new, the information has been out there, but you have to do a little work to get past the censorship and bias, and not just believe what you hear from this administration and the main stream media. Why anyone would do that with the credibility they have, I can't fathom. There have been many peer-reviewed studies that concluded the same thing, along with many well-renowned scientists, medical experts, and countries. Only this administration's and the media's censorship and bias has prevented fair and objective analysis from taking place, and deprived COVID paitents of effective treatment that could have saved many lives by now. Big box pharmacists have even been refusing to fill Ivermectin Rxs based on the discouragement from this administration. Many Drs have expressed frustration and anger at this administration trying to deprive their patients of their recommended treatment, and putting their patients' lives at risk against their guidance. This administration wants total control of your life, already has total control of the media, and is using it to brainwash people to achieve their objectives.

This is not the only therapeutic that has been discouraged by this administration in order to push their vaccines. Monoclonal antibodies are another, and despite the claims, there is plenty of availability and they are not that expensive, and both of those concerns would be even further addressed with encouragement from this administration instead of discouragement. Hell, the gorillas at Zoo Atlanta were able to get this treatment, you can't tell me it's not available for people. All of this is being done so that vaccines appear to be the only answer, and it's being done at the expense of lives that could be saved with effective treatments (both vaccinated and unvaccinated).

Its "nothing new, the information has been out there" is because it already investigated and dismissed:

The problem is, if you look at those large, aggregate models, and remove just this single study, ivermectin loses almost all of its purported benefit. Take the recent meta-analysis by Bryant et al. That has been all over the news they found a 62% reduction in risk of death for people who were treated with ivermectin compared to controls when combining randomized trials.

However, if you remove the Elgazzar paper from their model, and rerun it, the benefit goes from 62% to 52%, and largely loses its statistical significance. There's no benefit seen whatsoever for people who have severe COVID-19, and the confidence intervals for people with mild and moderate disease become extremely wide.

Moreover, if you include another study that was published after the Bryant meta-analysis came out, which found no benefit for ivermectin on death, the benefits seen in the model entirely disappear. For another recent meta-analysis, simply excluding Elgazzar is enough to remove the positive effect entirely.

The "proof" of Ivermectin's efficacy comes entirely from the Bryant meta-analysis of studies, but if you exclude the Elgazzar study, or even include one additional study, the effect disappears.

https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermect...h-5cc079278602

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.c...1-06348-5#Sec2

https://journals.lww.com/americanthe...ment_of.7.aspx

https://mobile.twitter.com/GidMK/sta...218448896?s=20

If you run enough studies, the odds are that one of them will eventually show an effect even if there isn't one. Then you just need to cherrypick and limit the meta-analysis to disproportionately reflect those studies. Except its not even that:

The Elgazzar study is most likely fraudulent and bears all the hallmarks of such. Where the Elgazzar study is the big keystone Ivermectin study that other scientific papers build off of. There is no vast consensus of studies for Ivermectin, just the Elgazzar study, the Bryant meta-study that cites Elgazzar, and other papers citing one or both of them in turn.

However there is a much simpler test, one I've mentioned before, for handling conspiracy theories, and that is to look at what the plutocrats who rule society do. Ask yourself. How many elected officials have gotten vaccinated? Then ask yourself, how many have taken Ivermectin? To my knowledge the answer to the former is "a lot" and the answer to the latter is "little to none, even including those who actually got Covid-19". If there was a miracle cure-all, the plutocrats would take it. The plutocrats got vaccinated and didn't take ivermectin. Ergo, vaccination is the miracle cure, not ivermectin.

Note for comparison the mono-clonal antibodies you mention. Regeneron's expensive experimental drug did in fact got grabbed for use by the rich at the first available opportunity. No one disputes that they work. The issue is that they aren't a miracle cure. Regeneron's treatment costs something like $1,600 a use, can only be used on those who already have it, and when used mitigates the effects of Covid-19 moreso than curing it outright. Vaccination by comparison is free, drastically reduces the odds of getting it in the first place thus building up herd immunity, and drastically reduces the chances of death if you do get it.

Mono-clonal antibodies are a useful complement to vaccination by filling in the gaps on the rare occasions where Covid-19 gets lucky, but they're no substitute for it. The more people that get vaccines, the fewer people that will get sick or especially very sick, which allows for scarce and expensive treatments like mono-clonal antibodies to be targeted on those unlucky few that got sick regardless of vaccination.

So no I don't think I will be eating Crow any time soon.😁

[I Luv Emall]

Some other examples of the armed forces feeling undermined by this administration:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army...over-vaccines/

https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/navy-com...curity-threat/

Point #1 on Commander Furman's list above is exactly what I've been talking about with risk assessment. Some people get it.

Well, my post was not about Trump, but since you brought him up, I can't say I recall him ever undermining the armed forces or the police or the border agents the way this administration has done. Can you honestly say that?

Just curious, but can anyone think of a person who previously worked for President Trump who he hasn't thrown under the bus a half a dozen times or so?

[RogerOver]

And thank you for continuing to remind us all what a moronic fool you really are. Unfortunately for this world the last one to understand that fact will be you.

You're frustrated from all the losing that you've been experiencing. How none of the stupid shit you've been saying all along has materialized in any way.

Chin up skippy. We'll need you looking upwards while pissing on your sad, oddly shaped noggin.

[I Luv Emall]

From the NIH website, for which Fauci works, and the American Journal of Therapeutics comes a peer-reviewed study that concludes "The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally. ".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art..._campaign=Good+News+Friday+-+Sept+24+(344287948)&utm_content=.

For all those who accused me of spreading false information from unreliable sources, I'd say it's time to eat some crow. In reality, this is nothing new, the information has been out there, but you have to do a little work to get past the censorship and bias, and not just believe what you hear from this administration and the main stream media. Why anyone would do that with the credibility they have, I can't fathom. There have been many peer-reviewed studies that concluded the same thing, along with many well-renowned scientists, medical experts, and countries. Only this administration's and the media's censorship and bias has prevented fair and objective analysis from taking place, and deprived COVID paitents of effective treatment that could have saved many lives by now. Big box pharmacists have even been refusing to fill Ivermectin Rxs based on the discouragement from this administration. Many Drs have expressed frustration and anger at this administration trying to deprive their patients of their recommended treatment, and putting their patients' lives at risk against their guidance. This administration wants total control of your life, already has total control of the media, and is using it to brainwash people to achieve their objectives.

This is not the only therapeutic that has been discouraged by this administration in order to push their vaccines. Monoclonal antibodies are another, and despite the claims, there is plenty of availability and they are not that expensive, and both of those concerns would be even further addressed with encouragement from this administration instead of discouragement. Hell, the gorillas at Zoo Atlanta were able to get this treatment, you can't tell me it's not available for people. All of this is being done so that vaccines appear to be the only answer, and it's being done at the expense of lives that could be saved with effective treatments (both vaccinated and unvaccinated).

[I Luv Emall]

Just curious, but can anyone think of a person who previously worked for President Trump who he hasn't thrown under the bus a half a dozen times or so?

Well, my post was not about Trump, but since you brought him up, I can't say I recall him ever undermining the armed forces or the police or the border agents the way this administration has done. Can you honestly say that?

[HobbyMan51]

Even their factually poor report acknowledges drumpf lost. Just two more weeks until they turn the country back over to dipshit drumpf, right?

Maricopa County on Twitter: "BREAKING: The azaudit draft report from Cyber Ninjas confirms the countys canvass of the 2020 General Election was accurate and the candidates certified as the winners did, in fact, win.".

https://twitter.com/maricopacounty/s...28176600952839

Thanks for the great morning. Always nice to wake up and see the news once again that Biden won.

And thank you for continuing to remind us all what a moronic fool you really are. Unfortunately for this world the last one to understand that fact will be you.

[Bullett64]

He just undermined his force, and none of these guys will feel like they can do their jobs any more without being thrown under the bus.

Just curious, but can anyone think of a person who previously worked for President Trump who he hasn't thrown under the bus a half a dozen times or so?

[RogerOver]

Even their factually poor report acknowledges drumpf lost. Just two more weeks until they turn the country back over to dipshit drumpf, right?

Maricopa County on Twitter: "BREAKING: The azaudit draft report from Cyber Ninjas confirms the county’s canvass of the 2020 General Election was accurate and the candidates certified as the winners did, in fact, win.".

https://twitter.com/maricopacounty/s...28176600952839

Thanks for the great morning. Always nice to wake up and see the news ONCE AGAIN that Biden won.

[I Luv Emall]

Being the senile incompetent that he is, Biden decided to follow in the steps of his VP short-list candidate and blame his border agents for the disaster at the border, dressing them down on National TV, and promising they will be held responsible and accountable for doing their job. What a cop out for putting them in an impossible situation to begin with. This clown is disgusting, and he will face the same consequences that Mayor Dumb-bottoms did. He just undermined his force, and none of these guys will feel like they can do their jobs any more without being thrown under the bus. Expect them to begin to lay down the same way APD did, with resulting crime spiking through the roof in Atlanta.

With blunder after blunder, no wonder his approval ratings continue to hit all-time lows.

[I Luv Emall]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/selling...er-11632338003

One year later, after initially denying the story, Politico now confirms the Hunter Biden laptop story about the Biden family being for sale was authentic, despite the so-called "trusted and credible" sources hailed on here squashing the story and decrying its credibility. This was squashed in the days leading up to the election in order to aid Biden's campaign, something that never would have been done for the other party.

Yet another prime example of why this administration and the main stream media has zero credibility. This is one of the most corrupt administrations in history, and certainly the most inept reporting we've ever had. And people wonder why there are so many conspiracy theories? You reap what you sow.

[I Luv Emall]

Oh my, Buttfucked-Trannyboy, that sure did trigger you. LOL. You took the bait again. It's fun watching you have hissy-fits and temper tantrums like you just did. Now go hang out with your tranny and clack-head buddies on FIB.

BTW I purposely misspelled crack-head just to give your fragile ego another boost.

Nice try for a blanket cover ploy for all your gaffes, faggot, but we've all seen you make so many mistakes that you were oblivious to that it just doesn't fly. You're a moron and we all know it, and don't worry, I'll continue to point it out. I've exposed you for the hollowed out pedophile you are, and will continue to do so.