Corona virus

**DaViper** · 09-20-21 22:31

Check out his story on Hawaii News Now BTW He Co-founded the anti-vaccine mandate group. For those of you and you know who you are think this covid is just a made up virus to keep you at home go see what this guy Chris has to say now after he landed in the hospital with this made up covid. Sometimes I guess people need to be hurt in order to see what's really going on.

**MitsFunai** · 09-20-21 21:51

"Although no "spectators" will be permitted for a second consecutive UH home game, a waiver was granted to allow the fully vaccinated (no exemptions or exceptions) UH Band to attend and perform. The band is situated in the Mauka stands socially distanced and more 40 yards away from the UH sideline (Honolulu Star-Advertiser, 09/19/2021). ".

"The band, an academic course made up of more than 250 students, has been allowed to rehearse in-person. Their request to perform at the outdoor football games, however, has been denied. Band members point out that all members are required to be fully-vaccinated (no exemptions or exceptions) and they are following all safety protocols based on nationwide guidance for marching bands and to allow the students who are taking an accredited class to engage in their assessments (UH News, 09/17/2021). ".

They was making use of an educational exemption and was "granted a waiver because membership in the marching band requires registration in a music class. The full marching band earns a university credit for completing work in Music 419-E and Music 419 F, different skill-level courses that meet for 90-minute sessions three times a week (Stephen Tsai, Honolulu Star-Advertiser, 09/20/2021). ".

**Carl1985** · 09-20-21 20:56

Ige is an idiot.

Originally Posted by RedOnion [View Original Post]

Ige has mandated no spectators in the last 2 home games at Ching field due to covid but he accommodates 245 UH band members to perform at halftime? WTF!

**Thumperforq** · 09-20-21 20:43

"In July, reporter Alex Berenson flagged emerging data from Israel suggesting a rise in cases and, potentially, even hospitalizations and deaths.

Israel was perhaps the earliest and most broadly vaccinated nation on earth.

Was this a signal of the vaccine's failure to block transmission and its lack of durability?

For asking this question, Twitter suspended Berenson for a week.

Unfortunately, Berenson was onto something.

Over the next few months, Israeli cases and illnesses surged.

Of the 607 Israelis who died of Covid-19 in the month of August, 375 (61.8%) had received either two or three doses of the Pfizer vaccine, while 232 (38.2%) had either zero or one dose.

Because a high proportion of Israelis had been fully vaccinated, the rate of illness among the vaccinated was still lower than the unvaccinated.

The vaccines reduce the severity of disease – at least for several months.

For most high-risk individuals, vaccination probably still makes sense.

Yet the rationale for universal vaccination, for coercive measures, and for the vaccination of young people had crashed. ".

https://www.realclearmarkets.com/art...rs_795066.html

**RedOnion** · 09-20-21 17:19

Ige has mandated no spectators in the last 2 home games at Ching field due to covid but he accommodates 245 UH band members to perform at halftime? WTF!

**Pumpking** · 09-20-21 02:32

Originally Posted by Blackbriar [View Original Post]

That's more worse than a 3 hour boat tour on the S. S. Minnow.

And there's no Mary-ann or Ginger to easy the pain!

**Incogfilipino** · 09-20-21 01:37

Originally Posted by DogStar7 [View Original Post]

I had Covid and healed myself with vitamin D3/ K2, C, Zinc and Chlorine Dioxide. It took 21 days but I just stayed home, rested and healed myself. Going to the hospital is a death sentence. They do the PCR test and everything is diagnosed as Covid; flu will test positive, pneumonia will test positive, etc. That's why there are more cases of Covid. When you're diagnosed as Covid they don't put you on a regular treatment protocol but under the CDC mandated Covid protocol which doesn't include high dosage of vitamin supplements but they overmedicated you and put you under a ventilator and then 80% of patients die with a ventilator. Stay away from hospitals!

I don't know where you are getting that information from, but from personal experience, the flu will not test positive in a COVID test. I have been tested numerous times (over 10 times this year due to travel and tests during quarantine in other countries) and when I caught the flu this year, I got a COVID test to be safe. It was negative, just the flu. Coincidentally, this year I didn't get the flu shot until after I caught the flu since I normally don't catch the flu and wasn't going out much so I skipped it, although I did get one when I got my first COVID vaccine.

**Blackbriar** · 09-19-21 23:03

Originally Posted by FleshPrince [View Original Post]

Here's a hypothetical for you:

So if you are on a cruise ship 3 months from now with 2500 other unvaccinated passengers, and there is a covid outbreak, and there is a vax available that is immediately effective upon being administered, would you take the shot? In this hypothetical, the ship is 3 weeks from shore and there are only 5 ICU beds available on board. Also, it is suspected that the outbreak is potentially due to a new strain so no one on shore wants to take the chance to have passengers ferried off the ship. So the only way to ensure survival without any ill effects (short or long term) is to either take the shot or let the virus go thru the ship, eventually developing herd immunity, but not before taking lives or causing lingering ailments. How would you handle yourself in this situation? I wonder how many anti vaxxers would suddenly become willing to take the shot.

That's more worse than a 3 hour boat tour on the S. S. Minnow.

**FleshPrince** · 09-19-21 22:00

Originally Posted by YogiBear007 [View Original Post]

Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.

Here's a hypothetical for you:

So if you are on a cruise ship 3 months from now with 2500 other unvaccinated passengers, and there is a covid outbreak, and there is a vax available that is immediately effective upon being administered, would you take the shot? In this hypothetical, the ship is 3 weeks from shore and there are only 5 ICU beds available on board. Also, it is suspected that the outbreak is potentially due to a new strain so no one on shore wants to take the chance to have passengers ferried off the ship. So the only way to ensure survival without any ill effects (short or long term) is to either take the shot or let the virus go thru the ship, eventually developing herd immunity, but not before taking lives or causing lingering ailments. How would you handle yourself in this situation? I wonder how many anti vaxxers would suddenly become willing to take the shot.

**Johnny14** · 09-19-21 21:02

Originally Posted by GreenTrees [View Original Post]

All you provide is your crybaby philosophy about the unvax. Just because you afraid to die, don't mean other people need to be afraid of dying like you are." If they are human then they should start acting like humans instead of selfish twits." You and your opinion is Selfish. All you do is whine about the unvaxed, why does it bother you so much? Civil servants had to work in close quarters, unvaxed, during the whole ordeal while the state was "shut down". Doing their work on clandestine hot spots so that people like you have the liberty to provide your crybaby philosophy about the unvax. You have your own worries. For some people, the dangers of their work environment is more pressing: dying onboard a burning sub, or knowing that they will possibly be locked into the compartment alive in order to save the ship and the environment, or being trapped in a confined space while the ship is flooding or burning. "The unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse and they are to be judged." No worry, get plenty unvaxed civil servants that work on boats and keep them fit to destroy. Those boats provide you the opportunity to have Liberty and your own opinion. Judge all you like.

Those that chose to be unvaccinated have already signed their death certificate, but somehow they expect to be given priority to move ahead in line and get ICU or beds in the hospital. Now with your theory of being stuck in some sinking submarine are just delusional example and completely off topic to the COVID-19 and the rapid spread of the Delta mutation infecting the very ones the most who refused to be vaccinated and now infesting the valuable ICU and hospital beds so that now those who follow the CDC guidelines are told "sorry, no room for you" because of these fools who are too coward to face the consequences they place upon themselves and "honor" that death certificate they obligated themselves when they refuse to be vaccinated. Its the same principle during the HIV pandemic during the 1980's when more than 90% of all HIV cases were amongst homosexual men who later spread it widely to women and became everyone's problem. It is these fools who refuse vaccination that will again spread it to everyone else.

**DogStar7** · 09-19-21 17:29

I had Covid and healed myself with vitamin D3/ K2, C, Zinc and Chlorine Dioxide. It took 21 days but I just stayed home, rested and healed myself. Going to the hospital is a death sentence. They do the PCR test and everything is diagnosed as Covid; flu will test positive, pneumonia will test positive, etc. That's why there are more cases of Covid. When you're diagnosed as Covid they don't put you on a regular treatment protocol but under the CDC mandated Covid protocol which doesn't include high dosage of vitamin supplements but they overmedicated you and put you under a ventilator and then 80% of patients die with a ventilator. Stay away from hospitals!

**GreenTrees** · 09-19-21 13:15

Originally Posted by MitsFunai [View Original Post]

All this unvax and crybaby philosophy; let's go "real world. " As the unvaccinated are becoming the bane of the medical, insurance carriers, social, health care (and much more) world, they will be (1) rationed for COVID-related medical care; (2) scrutinized and responsible for COVID-related health care insurance copays; (3) long-termers for COVID health after effects; (4) TBA.

All because: "Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us." I beg to differ. These are times of emergency conditions and the unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse and they are to be judged because "Thats their choice." Lastly, if they are human then they should start acting like humans instead of selfish twits.

All you provide is your crybaby philosophy about the unvax. Just because you afraid to die, don't mean other people need to be afraid of dying like you are." If they are human then they should start acting like humans instead of selfish twits." You and your opinion is Selfish. All you do is whine about the unvaxed, why does it bother you so much? Civil servants had to work in close quarters, unvaxed, during the whole ordeal while the state was "shut down". Doing their work on clandestine hot spots so that people like you have the liberty to provide your crybaby philosophy about the unvax. You have your own worries. For some people, the dangers of their work environment is more pressing: dying onboard a burning sub, or knowing that they will possibly be locked into the compartment alive in order to save the ship and the environment, or being trapped in a confined space while the ship is flooding or burning. "The unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse and they are to be judged." No worry, get plenty unvaxed civil servants that work on boats and keep them fit to destroy. Those boats provide you the opportunity to have Liberty and your own opinion. Judge all you like.

**MitsFunai** · 09-19-21 13:00

Originally Posted by Enona1 [View Original Post]

I, for one, have no sympathy for the ones who chose not to get vaccinated. It's been approved so what's the problem? It's a means of staying alive. The doctors have a choice too. They can choose who they feel has the best chance to survive. It's coming to that there has already been discussion.

Additionally, if anybody cares, the days of full coverage for COVID illnesses are coming to an end; some insurers are asking for copays, leaving some COVID patients with huge medical bills (you know how that goes). And all unpayable costs related to the critically unvaccinated COVID lolos eventually trickles down to everybody else until whatevers collapses. In agreement with and in fairness to others, the unvaccinated should receive rationed, separate, triaged care. Legally categorize the eligible, voluntarily unvaccinated as liabilities (in order to legally seek compensation for their negligence).

**Enona1** · 09-19-21 12:36

Originally Posted by YogiBear007 [View Original Post]

Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.

I, for one, have no sympathy for the ones who chose not to get vaccinated. It's been approved so what's the problem? It's a means of staying alive. The doctors have a choice too. They can choose who they feel has the best chance to survive. It's coming to that there has already been discussion.

**Johnny14** · 09-19-21 11:02

Originally Posted by MitsFunai [View Original Post]

All this unvax and crybaby philosophy; let's go "real world. " As the unvaccinated are becoming the bane of the medical, insurance carriers, social, health care (and much more) world, they will be (1) rationed for COVID-related medical care; (2) scrutinized and responsible for COVID-related health care insurance copays; (3) long-termers for COVID health after effects; (4) TBA.

All because: "Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us." I beg to differ. These are times of emergency conditions and the unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse because "Thats their choice."

Yes, I would agree, stupid people who signed their death wish by refusing to vaccinate should do everyone a favor and go jump off the cliff and not take anyone else with them as in the case when they catch COVID-19, then expect to go to the front of the line taking up valuable ICU and hospital beds when they had a choice to get the vaccination shots. What do you say to parents who got the shots and taken every pre-caution to protect their school age kids who have no choice in this matter because they are too young to get vaccinated, but somehow catch COVID-19 and told "sorry brudda, no more ICU or hospital beds for your son / daughter" Now the question remains, should the hospital base their tri-age decision between and older mature anti-vac person or a youngster that has a bright future ahead who had no choice in this matter? If was I, I would put that anti-vac patient on a wheel barrow and dump him on the street to make room for that school age kid.