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  1. #5961
    Quote Originally Posted by TheHuntsman  [View Original Post]
    I've been doing SA for the last few years and tbh I have only ever had 3 M&G and only 1 led to anything. Usually my first meeting involves sex in some form. Idk if it's a vibe thing but depending on the girl we can be texting for a bit before meeting.
    Seriously? I have been in the bowl since 2016. I have had like 3 dozen girls + from SA. I have had 3 durable arrangements that lasted 6+ months each. I have also had some I have FCed only once, for a variety of reasons. I've paid 600 once for a date, I've paid as little as a $25 gift card. Most of my girls have been high quality. I am all about the risk / reward, and for me, getting as much high quality pussy as I can is the key. My budget currently is over 1000/ mo for the sugar, plus other expenses. It is all I can keep hidden from the YF.

  2. #5960
    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    IK you are new here, perhaps not to SA or sugar bowl. I would just say if you are negotiating online you're only ever going to get her highest price as if you are the worst creep she's ever met. I never do it, I get quality, trustworthy SBs out of the deal. I am sure I don't get your volume, but I don't have a lot of time for sugar anyway, I work full time and have a YF at home.
    Volume as in the simple spammed messages I send out yea. As far as actually going through with one, extremely slim (like 1% at best). I don't have a lot of time either, plus my car and living situation kinda wack. Yea I could take them out and get a room, but then that becomes an additional cost / time and possibly sets a precedent for the future as well. I agree you'd might get the best deal meet and greet, but I'm not really trying to go through all that tbh, and most of them aren't anyways. I just cast a wide net and then start whittling down whatever comes in. Most times its just sorting through fakes, robs, GPS, or just getting someone acceptable to continue communicating and establishing something offline. Depending on the responses and vibes I get, I'll approach it however seems fit. Even once somethings been established, many times I don't go through with it because I lose interest, busy, tired, or they flake out as well (prob for a better offer).

    Hell, I prob shouldn't even be in the bowl tbh. Relatively young and by no means an established SD. At best a fwb ha! I should be using sb money to save for a house / new car and be investing if anything so I can better position myself for the future. 1 sb now could prob be like 5-10 sbs later in like 10 years or something if that makes sense LOL. My whole thing with SA was more so just seeing a civi instead of a pro. And you can figure out who's who already within the first few messages most of the time. If I'm already paying like 3-400 for a young attractive pro for only an hr, I might as well test my luck at finding a civi with less mileage that's down for BBFS and to spend longer than an hr I guess. Will adjust offer according to what's offered, time and attractiveness, but I've never gone over 400 yet. There were times where I woulda went way over, but just didn't end up happening for whatever reason on them or me.

  3. #5959
    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    If you just want an escort, UTR, but still, that's how you get it. You have to do a M&G if you want something other than her top dollar. I discuss it there. Along w / everything about safe sex, preferences, if she's submissive, etc. I think the meet can be sexy, and as HWG says, if you get them into your car, you have to kiss them (or order them to kiss you, if they are submissive). It is the art of seduction if she's not an escort.

    I just did this the other day, w / an older gal I met. Getting into my car, her skirt split and showed her legs. When I got in on the other side, I went right for it, putting my hand up the skirt on the crotch of her panties. It took just a few minutes before she lifted up and pulled the panties off so I could finger her. We're making out, etc. She would have taken me to her place if I had had the time. She wasn't a great find, average / thick body but nice face, and smart / nice. But I'll fuck her and defile her, she's sub. We don't actually have a $ agreement at this time, but I am sure I can get her for 300 initially, and less if she is good enough to repeat.
    I've been doing SA for the last few years and tbh I have only ever had 3 M&G and only 1 led to anything. Usually my first meeting involves sex in some form. Idk if it's a vibe thing but depending on the girl we can be texting for a bit before meeting.

  4. #5958
    Quote Originally Posted by TheHuntsman  [View Original Post]
    May I ask your approach? I usually negotiate over text but I have a tendency to get right to what I want. But other times I take a longer approach to getting to know them. Or just depends on my mood.
    If you just want an escort, UTR, but still, that's how you get it. You have to do a M&G if you want something other than her top dollar. I discuss it there. Along w / everything about safe sex, preferences, if she's submissive, etc. I think the meet can be sexy, and as HWG says, if you get them into your car, you have to kiss them (or order them to kiss you, if they are submissive). It is the art of seduction if she's not an escort.

    I just did this the other day, w / an older gal I met. Getting into my car, her skirt split and showed her legs. When I got in on the other side, I went right for it, putting my hand up the skirt on the crotch of her panties. It took just a few minutes before she lifted up and pulled the panties off so I could finger her. We're making out, etc. She would have taken me to her place if I had had the time. She wasn't a great find, average / thick body but nice face, and smart / nice. But I'll fuck her and defile her, she's sub. We don't actually have a $ agreement at this time, but I am sure I can get her for 300 initially, and less if she is good enough to repeat.

  5. #5957

    Anyone met her?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/1f439...4-52d722e25301

    I think this girl is so sexy. Unfortunately I'm banned on SA. I've tried messaging her on IG but she never reads my messages. I'm pretty sure it goes to her spam folder. I know she's out of state for college but would kill to hook up with her when she comes home to visit.

    Anyone any luck let me know LOL. Also from what I've heard from her friend is that maybe she only wants online but for all I know she doesn't want her friend to know the details.

  6. #5956
    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    IK you are new here, perhaps not to SA or sugar bowl. I would just say if you are negotiating online you're only ever going to get her highest price as if you are the worst creep she's ever met. I never do it, I get quality, trustworthy SBs out of the deal. I am sure I don't get your volume, but I don't have a lot of time for sugar anyway, I work full time and have a YF at home.
    May I ask your approach? I usually negotiate over text but I have a tendency to get right to what I want. But other times I take a longer approach to getting to know them. Or just depends on my mood.

  7. #5955
    Quote Originally Posted by AMonger1  [View Original Post]
    I messaged and she / he sent me a pic. Google image search showed it was Ruslana Gee, an instagram / youtube star. Highly doubt she needs to be on SA. Scam. Be careful out there fellas. Once again never pay before meeting, no deposits, and no paying for meet and greets. None of that half first half later BS either.

    Had a SB before that had only one pic without her face showing. Just got to confirm they are real first through other means like facetime or social media.
    IK you are new here, perhaps not to SA or sugar bowl. I would just say if you are negotiating online you're only ever going to get her highest price as if you are the worst creep she's ever met. I never do it, I get quality, trustworthy SBs out of the deal. I am sure I don't get your volume, but I don't have a lot of time for sugar anyway, I work full time and have a YF at home.

  8. #5954

    Just a few of the BS that's on SA

    https://www.seeking.com/member/69148...5-88c0a4173d02

    Never met but can do 300 ppm, maybe lower. Lot older than what the age says tho. Claims she's turning 29, I'm thinking maybe 39. A lot thicker too. Open to cfs, swallow, and Greek depending on size. Most likely a pro because she got a hotel room.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/d49ce...d-1582f031a204

    1 k. Countered 4. Said she was open to that but "like any smart business transaction full payment up front. Older men know and respect this boldness from me. " rarely is that a smart business transaction, and maybe naive boomers that ended up getting conned. Scam.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/3d952...e-c4552c63e588

    GPS. 450. Countered 2. Wasn't about it.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/7d3ab...d-4ca38915d3ae

    "required a 30 dollar fee" for idk what. Pass. Probably a scam.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/88a79...a-2ab7c43f8d4d

    500 to just meet. GPS.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/260ac...3-a7c4ebf852f2

    GPS. Seeking 5 K a month and claims she has suitors in this area. If that's true her suitors have shitty tastes. With that amount you can get way higher quality / looks. And I doubt anyone did it hence the term "suitors. ".

    https://www.seeking.com/member/af1f2...b-08971561c878

    GPS. Looking for 4 k monthly to meet 1-2 x weekly. Same as above. If you could drop that much you can get much better.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/39e58...0-2e339f35ba1f

    One of those snapchat profiles that try to get you to buy their OF or premium. Funny thing is its not even of her. Its some like VR shit. Crazy talk. Waste of time.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/994dd...e-a1f0b0e15f64

    Asked if I compensated for a platonic meet and greet. Hell no I don't. Looks like a fake / scam regardless.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/11282...a-bccff28c4f30

    Seems real. Asked for 4-5 ppm. Countered 3 and was down. No BBFS tho so I didn't bother. I can just go to HX for cuter / hotter girls if that's the case.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/a6d82...0-91e2edd52157

    Said 100/ hr, 2 hr minimum. Communication broke off. Las Vegas area code. Shoot your shot but seems TGTBT.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/99ba8...f-61cbc567bba9

    Her: "Can we just be friends without the benefits & I can get paid. " uh. No.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/5719f...9-68eeb619ad4f

    Online only. Pics have that fake kinda vibe. Most likely a fake or scam.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/04143...2-f13131905342

    Asking 5. Countered 3. I'm guessing she's a stripper with the pic of the lockers. Strippers are already dangerous meets in themselves as they aren't new to the game. I got conned once by a duo listening to the wrong head.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/a053f...e-2421e2881f1e

    GPS. Asking 5.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/8f3cd...1-2d3c58c36a59

    Not even in la. Claims shell be back Oct. Got to take her out to dinner first. Sounds like a rinser.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/33e1d...2-f8a74496229c

    Claims she's a virgin and 300 to just meet. Calling bs.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/54fb5...6-047241da8570

    Gl with this one. Tried but she wouldn't send a pic and just kept wasting my time. Profile pic seems a bit fake.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/28281...e-70c497715ecf

    Claims she'll be back in Oct. Convo ended when I wouldn't give her my whatsapp because I don't feel comfortable giving out my info. Never go to an offer but vibes seemed off tho. Don't think she's real.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/de197...a-3d8b98cc9ce3

    GPS. Asking 6.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/ace85...d-b198177d9cda

    Tried to get me to pay for her bday nails. Most likely a scam.

    Noticed a couple trends are asking if you compensate on the first platonic meet / date from diff profiles. All had like the same wording. These are def scams. Another is claiming they've had a prior ppm / arrangement at a certain price (usually 700) and looking for the same. These girls all have gps as well because if you could drop that you could be getting solid 8/10 to potentially 10/10.

  9. #5953

    You are right in this case

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHuntsman  [View Original Post]
    Me personally I don't message any woman with only 1 pic. Also her profile says ethnicity mixed and the what she's looking for section is blank. Maybe it's just me, I know mixed ethnicity can be a lot of things, but I swear I see a lot of mixed profiles where the girls look white or latina. And the what they're looking for section is blank. Maybe I'm dumb or paranoid but I just feel those profiles are scams.
    I messaged and she / he sent me a pic. Google image search showed it was Ruslana Gee, an instagram / youtube star. Highly doubt she needs to be on SA. Scam. Be careful out there fellas. Once again never pay before meeting, no deposits, and no paying for meet and greets. None of that half first half later BS either.

    Had a SB before that had only one pic without her face showing. Just got to confirm they are real first through other means like facetime or social media.

  10. #5952

    SA Success

    Quote Originally Posted by Felix06  [View Original Post]
    And, yet, it's the only site that I've managed to actually find and engage an SB / SD relationship at. It only lasted a couple months, but it at least happened. I haven't found any success at SA, yet, or else I've just keep running into fake profiles there.
    Hello, I've had some success on SA a couple of years ago. Haven't been on there in awhile but I just signed up again and I have one meet with a young AA girl tomorrow afternoon. And another set up for Sunday with a 19 yr old latina. They might flake but it's part of the game.

    Don't get me wrong I've had to sort through and text dozens of girls but we'll see how it goes. Like others have said, it's a numbers game, both in how many girls you message and how much you're willing to offer.

    For $$ or $$$ I think you have plenty to choose from. I'm always below $$ and it takes awhile to find someone but sometimes things just fall into place. And the right girl just comes around just in time.

  11. #5951
    Quote Originally Posted by Felix06  [View Original Post]
    And, yet, it's the only site that I've managed to actually find and engage an SB / SD relationship at. It only lasted a couple months, but it at least happened. I haven't found any success at SA, yet, or else I've just keep running into fake profiles there.
    I've met girls off all 3 sites but have had way better results on SA.

    The current girl I'm seeing, the relic, is from SB. And previously my girl J was from there too.

  12. #5950

    Secret Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by ShowMeHow23  [View Original Post]
    Yep. Definitely a tactic I've noticed on that site. She'll say "hey", you'll open to respond, it'll go silent, and days later they'll allow secret photo album access. You'll get suckered in. That site is not good.
    And, yet, it's the only site that I've managed to actually find and engage an SB / SD relationship at. It only lasted a couple months, but it at least happened. I haven't found any success at SA, yet, or else I've just keep running into fake profiles there.

  13. #5949
    Quote Originally Posted by OcasianBoy  [View Original Post]
    https://www.seeking.com/member/97447...7-ca7b91c1cf6a

    This one seems like a pro and wants to meet right away. She wants 1 k ppm. I said no and later on she said 8 benz is the lowest. Looks good but no way I'm paying that.
    Me personally I don't message any woman with only 1 pic. Also her profile says ethnicity mixed and the what she's looking for section is blank. Maybe it's just me, I know mixed ethnicity can be a lot of things, but I swear I see a lot of mixed profiles where the girls look white or latina. And the what they're looking for section is blank. Maybe I'm dumb or paranoid but I just feel those profiles are scams.

  14. #5948

    GPS going crazy

    https://www.seeking.com/member/97447...7-ca7b91c1cf6a

    This one seems like a pro and wants to meet right away. She wants 1 k ppm. I said no and later on she said 8 benz is the lowest. Looks good but no way I'm paying that.

  15. #5947
    Quote Originally Posted by ShowMeHow23  [View Original Post]
    Yep. Definitely a tactic I've noticed on that site. She'll say "hey", you'll open to respond, it'll go silent, and days later they'll allow secret photo album access. You'll get suckered in. That site is not good.
    Yeah, I got a message from a woman that's not really my type but decided to unlock it. Her message said something like. I am beautiful with stunning eyes. I thought WTF?! I just wasted 10 tokens on a girl telling me she has pretty eyes.

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