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09-13-21 19:16 #1092Senior Member

Posts: 1980I don't see covid as a hoax it's the response to a man made virus
Unless you believe it came from eating a bat. 😏That's what the ccp China fed and the CNN swallowing masses and they went with it. I will miss the Asian pussy I'm sure, however, my end state is relocating to Thailand. When their nanny state hopefully unfuck themselves. Nothing beats Thailand, unless you prefer pinay.
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09-13-21 15:20 #1091Senior Member

Posts: 1504Good move
Good you moving, now post when you find the Happiness and Rejuve girls working there. No vaccine needed, no testing, no masks in Texas its the perfect shining example to show the rest of the world that COVID is a global hoax. Don't forget to post, the girls have been working all throughout the pandemic and will never return to Hawaii.
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09-13-21 14:44 #1090Senior Member

Posts: 1980"Antivaxer"
Fist off, most of us who don't want this test vaccine have had every other vaccines available plus others that most of you haven't. Get your anthrax series yet? Secondly, it's funny how people who swallow corporate media blindly and ignore anyone outside of the realm of their narrative see opossing views as conspiracy theories. Joe Rogan gets covid, is PRESCRIBED ivermectin and other theroputics, which makes him recover in a day, and CNN announced that he took horse dewormer. The corporate media echoes the horseshit and the feeble minded swallow it. Ivermectin gets a Nobel prize for positive use in other ailments in 2015. But, it's horse dewormer to those that keep the CNN dongle deep in their throat. Your POS govener and mayor use case increases of "Covid " to justify his vaccine passport shit. I took my SO in for a test we both got the rt pcr test, the one that looses its emergency use authorization December 2021,it was the first to be used December 2020. Mine said not detected, hers said detected. This test does not differentiate between covid or Influenza, "indicative of active infection but do not rule out bacterial infection or other viral infections. " Right on the sheet. I called Hawaii department of heath and asked, so, if it's just the flu, it's still counted as covid? Her response, "THAT'S CORRECT ". So, now you know how case counts have gone up and Influenza has pretty much disappeared. More case counts mean more federal $$ I'm leaving Hawaii for Texas. Enjoy your booster shots every six months, Pfizer loves you. 😉.
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09-10-21 15:06 #1089Senior Member

Posts: 164Problem is
You are correct. The majority of anti vaxers are repeating conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, Its only another jab of which they probably have had many. If it works and indications are it helps great , if it doesn't work oh well. They are blinded by propaganda and social media BS. I see said the blind man as he sawed off his leg.
Originally Posted by DaViper
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Problem is you can try to help stupid but you can't fix it.Last edited by Mike4346; 09-10-21 at 15:08. Reason: grammer
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09-10-21 13:02 #1088Senior Member

Posts: 1504Best thing for Hawaii
Bestest thing to happen for Hawaii all unvaccinated can quit their jobs and go work for all the thousands. Of. Small businesses here who need employees. Winnahs for. Small business. Biden just did us all a big favour our economy going. Explode upwards while rest of. The world. Going tank. All of the politically controlled. Big business who been screwing us since forever going get screwed finally close up go back mainland and leave us alone. We need Slippah. House to come back Walmart, Costco go home we don't want or need you here. With. Covid now fully exposed, none of the unvaxed need to. Go doctor of hospitals they take care. Of themselves at their home it will go away. In a day or two. No hospital or doctor crowding, small business thriving these folks are really smart. No need vaccinate, quit work, close all big businesses, plenty jobs at small businesses, no go doctor or hospital. All good, all good. Let it play out and see.
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09-10-21 00:15 #1087Senior Member

Posts: 1504Test your commitment
Biden requiring 100+ employee business to test. Or vaccinate all employees. Non compliant will be put on leave. If you are all in. And believe the vaccine is. Fake and. The pandemic is fake, refuse the test and the vaccine. And go all in I support you 100%. Don't be like Kaperdick and still get money. From. Endorsements and donations poser commitment. Be like Ali and put it all on the line, risk everything for what you believe. Its your rights and that is not fake news. If all of he 48% non vaccinate stay together and call bullshit, that will change. Biden's mind and cause global reform guaranteed. Let it. Play. Out. And see. Good luck.
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09-09-21 16:38 #1086Senior Member

Posts: 1356Ok so you don't see any problem going on? Everything is the way it use to be people dying like normal? Everyone not only in Hawaii but the world over reacting to this made up name called Covid? All the hospitals are the way it use to be they just making up all these story's to keep people in there hses. All the morgs are the way they use to be filled with dead bodies where NY and other places including here using trailers to hold bodies. So right now Everything is normal except every one over reacting to this thing someone made up called Covid? Alright happy you responded ill let others respond to you if they like.
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09-09-21 10:46 #1085Regular Member

Posts: 13Pre condtions
It that to say even if the had pre-conditions they would have died now if they didn't get Covid? A lot of people have pre-existing conditions and live a normal life. Yes it does mean that they are a greater risk of death but yes they do die because they caught COVID.
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09-09-21 02:46 #1084Senior Member

Posts: 985Solution? First, what is the problem?
More people die from the flu each year, before COVID. How many people are dying from the flu now? You don't know? Why is that?
Originally Posted by DaViper
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The statistics show that the vast majority of people will survive the COVID, like 99.6% of the general population. Even those who catch the COVID, can be treated given the knowledge doctors have today.
Most of the people who are in the hospital, are there for a variety of other medical issues (pre-existing or not) and they also happen to have COVID. So it isn't truly a case of people dropping dead everywhere BECAUSE of COVID. So your question requires context.
The solution? Do what Sweden did. Nothing basically. Yes, they had people die. But NOT a statistically higher amount than anywhere else by population proportion, compared to countries that "locked down" and freaked out. Sweden did NOT lock down and go into a panic. They lived their lives normally. At work, school, and socially. Get herd immunity quickly by letting the virus run its course through the population entirely. The normal thing.
Take prophylactics and drugs that slow or prevent COVID. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine are accepted drugs elsewhere. Not in the USA, because Pharmaceutical Corporations don't make billions of dollars on inexpensive drugs readily available for decades that have been proven safe. Please don't believe the crap about this "deworming" drug killing people. Long since proven that story was an outright lie.
Those who are susceptible to immune deficiency issues, or are sick, or elderly, or any other category of people prone to being very ill; THEY should be self quarantined and monitor their own situation. At no time in history have we ever quarantined perfectly healthy people. Who does that? It will never end?! Let people live their lives normally, accept the deaths as they come. They will not be anymore 'extra-deaths' (statistically higher amounts more than normal).
Today they are now announcing the next variant. The new "mu" variant. You see how that works? It will never end. It will always be something new, some NEXT variant. They will continue to proclaim that there is yet ANOTHER REASON to control people and keep them down, to spoon feed you all that you need to know and to depend upon the government to feed you and care for you.
Nobody in life gets out of this alive. We're all going to die at some point. Some earlier than later. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. I will never allow some ignorant twat like Ige or Green to tell me how to live my life in accordance with their ridiculous rules for sheep.
My solution? Leave us alone. Take the good with the bad. Those who are worried about COVID, stay home and live in your closet. Order delivery. Don't go to work. But the rest of us will live our lives like normal human beings.
The vast majority of Americans across the US are living normal lives without masks on, their kids are going to school while parents go to work like normal everyday people. Sadly, in Hawaii we are not. The local media and politicians want everyone here to believe what Ige and Green are serving up, THAT is normal. It isn't. But what people in Hawaii are suffering more from is fear and loathing, served up in ample quantities by our politicians and lap dog media.
I would expect nothing less.
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09-09-21 00:31 #1083Regular Member

Posts: 21The cardinal sin
To DaViper, if I ruled Hawaii, I would shut down all travel in and out. Got to isolate. Just like how Hawaii was isolated for so long that when the westerners brought Influenza, the natives were decimated because their immune systems were never exposed to Influenza prior to western contact. Each island would have to isolate as well. We need to factor in asymptomatic carriers as well. If it is such that even Vaccinated people can be carriers, even more so, we would have to isolate populations / islands. If the stay time for C-vid can be as long as 20 days for those that are infected, a quarantine of 30-40 days should suffice. We were once close, and then we opened back up, and then the numbers went back up. Did we not reach a point of 1% and below? What would 2-3 more weeks of lock-down have really costed us as a state?
So, first step isolate. Next step, test. State misallocated funds by buying one useless robodog, and has anyone seen the new state vehicles, the Tesla SUV's? All that money could be spent on tests. Why the phuck does general population have to take tests that go to a lab for results? I heard of a whole school bus being turned around because a student popped hot of the daily covid test -- I think they use the spit test. Some people have seen many people take the swab test and get their results within 5-15 minutes, no lab to process it. So, isolate the islands, and provide enough rapid tests for people to take a test every other day. If it's a shut down for 30 days, 15 tests each. If it's a shutdown for 40 days, 20 tests each. As long as people can travel in and out of the state, it will never be sanitized.
But any offer of a solution is moot. With the way the military cycles in and out on a monthly basis, you never going to stop it. Bases are on sovereign soil, commands do not have to divulge data because opsec. General population lives in one realm while the people inside the gates operate in a different realm.
But for the other folks.
Afghanistan: pop= 38 M. CoV cases= 154 k. CoV deaths= 7144. Total mort rate= 0. 0188% coV mort= 4. 638961%.
Russia: pop= 144.4 M. CoV cases= 6. 95 M. CoV deaths= 185 k. Total mort rate= 0. 12842722% coV mort= 2. 661871%.
And Korea: pop=25.67 M. CoV cases= 219 M. CoV deaths= 4. 55 M. Total mort rate= 18% coV mort= 2. 077626%.
Turkey: pop= 82 M. CoV cases= 6. 54 M. CoV deaths= 58,651. Total mort rate= 0. 07153293% coV mort= 0. 8968043%.
Mexico: pop= 127.6 M. CoV cases= 3. 45 M. CoV deaths= 265 k. Total mort rate= 0. 2086614% coV mort= 7. 681159%.
Columbia: pop= 50.34 M. CoV cases= 4. 92 M. CoV deaths= 125 k. Total mort rate= 0. 25% coV mort= 2. 54065%.
Ununited States: pop= 328.2 M. CoV cases= 40.5 M. CoV deaths= 652 k. Total mort rate= 0. 1986594% coV mort= 1. 609877%.
Hawaii: pop= 1. 416 M. CoV cases= 66,554. CoV deaths= 623. Total mort rate= 0. 04399718% coV mort= 0. 936082%.
CDC stats:
2017 Influenza: 637 Cancer: 2456 Heart disease: 2575.
2016 Influenza: 507 Cancer: 2401 Heart disease: 2488.
2015 Influenza: 557 Cancer: 2462 Heart disease: 2605.
2014 Influenza: 438 Cancer: 2493 Heart disease: 2528.
So if only 623 deaths in Hawaii attributed to c-vid for almost 2 years, and let's say 0 deaths due to Influenza for the past 2 years, C-vid is really not that bad. 623 divided by 2 is 311.5 so let's just say 310.310 per year is still better than any of the 3's posted by the CDC. From the numbers, looks like Cancer and Heart Disease is more of a pandemic than this Rona. You know they got cures for cancer and heart disease but big farma makes too much money off of prescriptions. Me 40+ and take no prescriptions, not a fan of big farma.
We really need vaccines for Cancer and Heart Disease. From my g00 gle research on numbers, those 2 kill a lot more people than Rona. Better hope that mRNA jab doesn't lead to Auto Immune Disease.
By the way, anyone notice that the 2 top people from the FDA resigned after the vax was approved? Ever wonder what their reason was? And it's funny how the head of Pfizer could not travel to a foreign country because he is not vax'd. Jokes on all of us.
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09-08-21 19:48 #1082Senior Member

Posts: 1356Yes I agree there is no easy answer but as everyone who comes on here can see all these guys that like complain and call people who making decisions dumb stupid. I like know what would they do which BTW tells me since no one coming up with solutions they only here to complain. These people are like some of the people I work with management makes a decision but because they don't like it they file grieve and I'm a union guy and don't agree with these complainers. And they reason I don't agree with these complainer is they complain but when asked do you have a better way to do this they don't have an answer.
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09-08-21 19:17 #1081Senior Member

Posts: 1356Nah keep in mind everyone should have there own choice but what irrates me is these guys who complain about Gov and Mayor making decisions that they don't like but don't Come up with a solution? It's so easy to say shit but if you were in there position what would you do because if you honest with yourself you be doing the same dam thing trying to protect your State of Hawaii and if not you will have people come down on you hard and probably being voted out next election.
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09-08-21 18:57 #1080Senior Member

Posts: 1170Funny Kine People
They say they no like vaccine because they skaid no know what the vaccine made of but: (1) they take Novocaine for numb the pain for dentist (what stay inside Novocaine?); (2) they take acetaminophens for pain (what stay inside Tylenol?); (3) take the aspirin, ibuprofens, codeine, cortisol, etc. (what stay made of?); (4) go surgery and take anesthetics (what made of, that one?). The vaccine stay FDA approved, just like the others. What the next excuse (s)?
Originally Posted by DaViper
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This COVID shat supposed to be over with one year ago, already, if everybody when take the vaccine (just like measles, chickenpox, etc.). Tired of this crup.
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09-08-21 17:26 #1079Senior Member

Posts: 1033No easy answer for this one. Our govt is only following what other states / countries have done. We'll be experiencing our 3rd and 4th surges next year unless things change. One thing I would bring back would be testing for all incoming travelers, vaxed or not. You still going to spread the virus so why aren't we testing?
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09-07-21 23:34 #1078Senior Member

Posts: 1356Again I ask the same question and funny how absolutely nobody that's complaining answered. What would you or the people your listening too suggest to fix this covid problem? Everyone one here see what everyone saying take vaccine or don't take vaccine but what I like see is what is your solution of how to fix this? Bottom line whether they right or wrong the Gov Mayor trying to save lives which is BTW part of there jobs so tell us for those who don't like it what is your solution? Don't take vaccine let everyone stay as is and let people die? As a public officials they not going to let that happen and take heat from other people.
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