Rants and Raves

[Bullett64]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=uxbndlbing

Governor Abbott has long declared that the Covid virus is "no big deal" and that personal responsibility is all that is needed, but public health measures.

He then attends a crowded, indoor, mostly mask-free, non-social distancing event. How does this dovetail with personal responsibility? Is anyone really surprised that shortly thereafter he tested positive for the virus?

He was fully vaccinated, which means that the strain he got was probably delta. His symptoms are light, probably due to the fact that he had been vaccinated.

So, does the "personal responsibility", "no big deal", Governor go home to recover? NO! He gets himself a booster (which is not available to the public at present) and received monoclonal antibody treatment (also not available to the general public unless you name ends in Trump.)

Why all these steps for something that is "no big deal?" Too bad he doesn't show the same concern for the well being of his constituent as he does for himself.

[Aaron Hamlet]

This Covid is a shot and not a vaccine because as we all see, people can and do still get the disease. It is all part of Big Pharma and Government propaganda.

It's worse than that. Not only an imperfect non-vaccine vaccine but trying to non-vaccine vaccine your way out of a pandemic using a imperfect non-vaccine vaccine. It's the non-vaccine vaccine that's creating the variants. Biology 101.

'The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. '.

https://assets.publishing.service.go..._July_2021.pdf

From 2015:

'Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population. '.

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...l.pbio.1002198

https://twitter.com/realityblob/status/1409947400131661825?s=20

[Niteluvr]

After your many years of Lurking why not share you favorite places. Earn some creditably with fellow members.

Come on Com, it's credibility, not whatever you said. Too much dried jizz on the keyboard can cause obnoxious levels of sticky keystrokes. YMMV.

[Aaron Hamlet]

You are either simply ignorant (intentionally or not and / or stupid (again, either intentionally or not), but you are certainly arrogant and dangerous, whether to yourself, those around you, or the general population at large.

And that IS intentional on your part.

I can no longer be bothered to even read your posts. Good luck with your health; you are going to need it.

"alot of people are hostile to these analytical tools and avail themselves the right to borrow logic and analysis for the purpose of manipulation. They believe we are in a battle that has a coherent endpoint. But that battle doesn't even exist. There is no coherent endpoint. ".

https://youtu.be/K7oLLbg3s7k?t=394

You are simply making shit up (again.)

For the second time, what did I make up and what have I made up?

[Bullett64]

I'm CCP virus + and cough, sneeze or spit in your mask wearing face. You may not feel any of moisture but thousands of CCP viral microbes passed through your mask and into your mouth and nose. But a mask might protect you from tasting my spit, mucous or snot. Maybe.

You are either simply ignorant (intentionally or not and / or stupid (again, either intentionally or not), but you are certainly arrogant and dangerous, whether to yourself, those around you, or the general population at large.

And that IS intentional on your part.

I can no longer be bothered to even read your posts. Good luck with your health; you are going to need it.

[ComTech42]

I've been lurking on this forum for years. I'm probably on the younger side of most of you 30. I get I'd checked hard haha. Only been to two parlors with success LVX which was my first actually, years ago, and a place off scenic hwy (don't remember name). If anyone has tips for me going out to places please inbox me please. Thanks! Wish you guys luck out there.

After your many years of Lurking why not share you favorite places. Earn some creditably with fellow members.

[Aaron Hamlet]

You are simply making shit up (again.) Nothing that has happened to me has compromised my immune system any more than a broken arm as a child would.

Have you broken a bone? Had dental work? Spelling deficiencies? Zits? Ooooh, you too must be immunocompromised.

'At this time, based on available studies, having a history of cancer increases your risk.'

'Stroke or cerebrovascular disease, which affects blood flow to the brain.'

'Having cerebrovascular disease, such as having a stroke, can make you more likely to get severely ill from COVID-19.'

'Older adults are more likely to get severely ill from COVID-19. More than 80% of COVID-19 deaths occur in people over age 65.'

'Dementia or other neurological conditions.'

'Having neurological conditions, such as dementia, can make you more likely to get severely ill from COVID-19.'

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...onditions.html

'Having a stroke damages immune cells as well as affecting the brain. Having a stroke damages immune cells as well as affecting the brain, research has found. '.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0420113807.htm#text=Having%20 a%20 stroke%20 damages%20 immune%20 cells%20 as%20 well%20 as%20 affecting%20 the%20 brain. &text=FULL%20 STORY-,Having%20 a%20 stroke%20 damages%20 immune%20 cells%20 as%20 well%20 as%20 affecting, pneumonia%2 C%20 after%20 having%20 a%20 stroke.

You are simply making shit up (again.)

What am I making up, old man? You say again, so what have I made up in the past?

[Bullett64]

Doesn't matter if they continue to exist or not. You're 75, had cancer and a series of strokes. You're considered immunocompromised.

You are simply making shit up (again.) Nothing that has happened to me has compromised my immune system any more than a broken arm as a child would.

Have you broken a bone? Had dental work? Spelling deficiencies? Zits? Ooooh, you too must be immunocompromised.

[Aaron Hamlet]

neither of the two conditions you mentioned continue to exist, so can hardly be classified as "pre-existing. " My prostate cancer was discovered early, thanks to modern medicine (you know, stuff PSA tests and vaccines) and was removed. Ergo no prostate, no prostate cancer, no condition.

Doesn't matter if they continue to exist or not. You're 75, had cancer and a series of strokes. You're considered immunocompromised.

[Aaron Hamlet]

I realize that the pores in the mask are bigger than the actual virus, but I am intelligent enough to know that the virus does not travel by itself, but attached to (mostly) water vapor molecules which are big enough for the mask to stop. l.

Water vapor molecules evaporate almost immediately once outside the body. The much smaller viral microbes attached to the water molecules don't. Your mask won't stop the viral microbes.

I'm CCP virus + and cough, sneeze or spit in your mask wearing face. You may not feel any of moisture but thousands of CCP viral microbes passed through your mask and into your mouth and nose. But a mask might protect you from tasting my spit, mucous or snot. Maybe.

[I Luv Emall]

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2O01XU

A apologize if Reuters is not as professional in your eyes as Tucker Carlson.

I think it's obvious that you are slow to read, because it's twice now that you've obviously misread my posts. What does your link have to do with my post? Please show me where my post made that claim?

Let me put it another way. If I choose to get vaccinated and wear a mask in public and I am wrong, who have I hurt? No-one. If I am right, I have helped to end the disease and have helped in avoiding its spread to the unvaccinated.

If you are right and continue on your present course, no-one is hurt. If you are not, you are placing your own life in jeopardy as well as the lives of others and continuing to enable the spread of the current form of the disease as well as enabling to mutate into even more virulent forms.

So the cost of being correct is zero. The cost of being wrong is the difference between zero all the way up to possible death. It doesn't take much of a risk / benefit analysis to figure out which is the more prudent plan.

Of course the over 600,000 people who have already died of the disease don't get to weigh in here. If they did, how many of them do you suppose would be anti-vax'ers?

Let me put it to you this way- you are truly ignorant and refuse to get educated, even though I have asked you to please do so. You accuse me of listening only to Fox, even though you clearly are extremely poorly read, and don't realize that these vaccines do not provide immunity, and were never intended to do so (please do your fact checking on that). That's right, the vaccinated can and do spread the virus. Now, it's funny you bring up about mutations, because there's something called ADE (look that up and read about it), and every coronavirus vaccine applied for in the past has exhibited this. Now, in the absence of long term data (which by definition can't exist) demonstrating that these vaccines are different, there is a high likelihood that these vaccines are actually creating the problem and allowing mutations to develop at a more rapid pace, and not the unvaccinated. There are many notable scientists, including one of the pioneeers of MRNA vaccines, a Nobel Prize winner, and the former Chief Scientist of Pfizer that support this theory.

So the cost of being wrong on these vaccines is far from zero, and could potentially be creating a much larger problem for the entire world to deal with. Add on top of that the unknown long-term health effects of the vaccines, and there are potentially huge costs of being wrong. On the other hand, if the vaccines are as great as you pro-vaccine proponents think they are, then you are protected, and it's only the unvaccinated who are left to deal with the risks they willingly choose to take themselves. I'm being a little facetious there, but despite what you believe, there's more than one side to consider in this, and you're not being the selfless pariah you may see yourself as, so you can come down off your high horse.

We could get into a whole debate on the interpretation of statistics, but I won't go there. Instead, I'll just ask how many people have died of the flu so far? Have we tried to mandate the flu vaccine? Please, make your own choice, I'm all for that. Just don't try to make mine for me.

[I Luv Emall]

I prefer real-world experiences to find truths, not articles.

So far, here's my real-world experience with the Delta variant. I know 2 people personally in the US that have had Covid since the Delta variant. One works for me and was on vacation at the time with his family of 4, all of which were vaccinated, and all of which got COVID. He ended up having to have oxygen, while the rest of his family had more mild symptoms. He was out for 2 weeks.

One of my neighbors also got Covid after returning from Florida on vacation with his family of 4, all of which were unvaccinated. The rest of them tested negative. He never went to the hospital or got any treatment, but did have a rough go of it, and is still recovering. He was back to work after 1 week, but does still struggle doing any heavier physical labor.

Even though that's my real-world experience, I realize it's very limited, and it's probably not representative of what I should expect in general. For that, I look to broader-based studies, and from what I see, the vaccines do appear to offer symptomatic relief. Did I believe they offered the 98% that was claimed (and since qualified with the "oops, oh yeah, that was outdated data that included 4 months worth of time where no one was vaccinated" Of course not, because this wasn't close to matching the data from other countries like the UK and Israel, and it just didn't pass the smell test.

Our plant in Israel got hit with Covid, and 16 of 18 people on our engineering floor ended being out with it, all of which were vaccinated. This did fit with much of the data I was seeing from both Israel and the UK, showing the vaccines were not effective against the Delta variant, so in this case I did believe my real-world data was reflective of the studies. We also saw a very high % get hit in the Cape Cod cluster outbreak here, forcing dumbass Biden to eat crow on his ill-timed "pandemic of the unvaccinated" line, doing his best to foster divisions and push his forced vaccine agenda.

I stopped after my MS degree so can't claim a PhD, but I've worked in research for decades, and have PhDs that work for me, and I can assure you they are not stupid, and they are not accepting this at face value either.

[Aaron Hamlet]

And I'm certain they know more than your dumb fucking ass. I suppose the fact that the shot is 99.93% effective.

'both mRNA COVID-19 vaccines' effectiveness dropped in the month of July. The researchers found that Moderna's vaccine effectiveness was 76 percent, as compared with Pfizer's 42 percent. '.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...707v1.full.pdf

"alot of people are hostile to these analytical tools and availing themselves the right to borrow logic and analysis for the purpose of manipulation. ".

https://youtu.be/K7oLLbg3s7k?t=404

[Aaron Hamlet]

I suppose the fact that the shot is 99.93% effective


While noble, I wouldn't bother trying to explain anything to this group of conspiracy cock swallowing idiots. I'm good with the Darwin shit that's happening.

"alot of people are hostile to these analytical tools and availing themselves the right to borrow logic and analysis for the purpose of manipulation".

Followed by:

https://youtu.be/K7oLLbg3s7k?t=394

and:

"they believe we are in a battle that has a coherent endpoint ... but that battle doesn't even exist. There is no coherent endpoint."

[RogerOver]

Polio, Mumps, Rubella, and like have vaccines. You get the vaccine then the odds of getting the disease is infinitesimal. The flu shot is not a vaccine because their are still great odds of getting the flu. This Covid is a shot and not a vaccine because as we all see, people can and do still get the disease. It is all part of Big Pharma and Government propaganda. Not saying whether people should or should not get it, just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of what many are being fed and happily are swallowing.

Because the CDC calls it a vaccine. And I'm certain they know more than your dumb fucking ass. I suppose the fact that the shot is 99.93% effective so far means that it's not a "vaccine" to you? So dumb. I'll bet you sit in the yard and eat rocks.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2O01XU

A apologize if Reuters is not as professional in your eyes as Tucker Carlson.

Let me put it another way. If I choose to get vaccinated and wear a mask in public and I am wrong, who have I hurt? No-one. If I am right, I have helped to end the disease and have helped in avoiding its spread to the unvaccinated.

If you are right and continue on your present course, no-one is hurt. If you are not, you are placing your own life in jeopardy as well as the lives of others and continuing to enable the spread of the current form of the disease as well as enabling to mutate into even more virulent forms.

So the cost of being correct is zero. The cost of being wrong is the difference between zero all the way up to possible death. It doesn't take much of a risk / benefit analysis to figure out which is the more prudent plan.

Of course the over 600,000 people who have already died of the disease don't get to weigh in here. If they did, how many of them do you suppose would be anti-vax'ers?

While noble, I wouldn't bother trying to explain anything to this group of conspiracy cock swallowing idiots. I'm good with the Darwin shit that's happening.