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08-16-21 12:39 #6203Senior Member

Posts: 307https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2O01XU
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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A apologize if Reuters is not as professional in your eyes as Tucker Carlson.
Let me put it another way. If I choose to get vaccinated and wear a mask in public and I am wrong, who have I hurt? No-one. If I am right, I have helped to end the disease and have helped in avoiding its spread to the unvaccinated.
If you are right and continue on your present course, no-one is hurt. If you are not, you are placing your own life in jeopardy as well as the lives of others and continuing to enable the spread of the current form of the disease as well as enabling to mutate into even more virulent forms.
So the cost of being correct is zero. The cost of being wrong is the difference between zero all the way up to possible death. It doesn't take much of a risk / benefit analysis to figure out which is the more prudent plan.
Of course the over 600,000 people who have already died of the disease don't get to weigh in here. If they did, how many of them do you suppose would be anti-vax'ers?
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08-16-21 12:18 #6202Senior Member

Posts: 307Wow, thank you for taking such an interest in my health. Like my new knee, neither of the two conditions you mentioned continue to exist, so can hardly be classified as "pre-existing. " My prostate cancer was discovered early, thanks to modern medicine (you know, stuff PSA tests and vaccines) and was removed. Ergo no prostate, no prostate cancer, no condition. Similarly, there is a blood vessel that runs up the back of your neck and branches into three parts. I was born with an abnormality in mine (a kink in layman's terms) which caused a blood clot to form. Eventually it got big enough to tear apart. Bits of the clot entered the three branched blood vessels, blocking them, and causing the three small strokes. As there are nor more vessels remaining in that artery, there is no possible chance of it causing any further damage. Once again, no condition remains to pre-exist. Now realizing that you have a vested interest in my health, I must notify you that I have fully recovered from all the effects of the strokes, although I admit I read a bit slower than I used to.
Originally Posted by AaronHamlet
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As you are so very interested in me, do you have any idea why I am pulling the ball to the left as often as I am?
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08-16-21 10:56 #6201Banned Member

Posts: 13634I prefer real-world experiences to find truths, not articles.
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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08-16-21 10:30 #6200Senior Member

Posts: 1011Neither. Your advanced age, prostate cancer and series of strokes.
Originally Posted by Bullett64
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08-16-21 09:44 #6199Senior Member

Posts: 475And I can't imagine why you would say that, unless you've not done any in-depth study on the subject, and have just taken the sound bites at face value. But that's not what PhD's do, they do their own research.
Originally Posted by Niteluvr
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Now you sound just like Biden. Did you bother to look at the study I cited?
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08-16-21 09:33 #6198Senior Member

Posts: 475I gave you plenty of examples, if you'd bothered to read. Like I told you, broaden your horizons a little. If you do, you'll see lots of contrasting data coming from countries throughout Europe, India, Israel, and all around the world that don't fit the nice little vaccine narrative.
Why does everything have to revolve around Trump for you guys? You guys keep immortalizing him, and just can't let him go, can you? I guess you really miss him that badly. Be careful what you wish for.
I couldn't help but notice you never disputed any of my facts. I hope you feel some responsibility for the reported deaths from the COVID vaccines which in 7 months have eclipsed those of all other vaccines for the last 30 years combined, according to the VAERS data reported by the CDC.
Originally Posted by Bullett64
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08-16-21 09:09 #6197Senior Member

Posts: 1181Why do you keep calling it a vaccine?
Polio, Mumps, Rubella, and like have vaccines. You get the vaccine then the odds of getting the disease is infinitesimal. The flu shot is not a vaccine because their are still great odds of getting the flu. This Covid is a shot and not a vaccine because as we all see, people can and do still get the disease. It is all part of Big Pharma and Government propaganda. Not saying whether people should or should not get it, just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of what many are being fed and happily are swallowing.
Originally Posted by AaronHamlet
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08-15-21 19:20 #6196Senior Member

Posts: 307Which is the per-existing condition, my new knee or my old knee? The old one no longer exists and the new one isn't a condition.
Originally Posted by AaronHamlet
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But if it really concerns you, I have been vaccinated and will be one of the first in line when and if a booster is recommended. I wear a mask in crowded places so that I do not pass the virus to others and to minimize me inhaling it from those who do not. And yes, I realize that the pores in the mask are bigger than the actual virus, but I am intelligent enough to know that the virus does not travel by itself, but attached to (mostly) water vapor molecules which are big enough for the mask to stop. I wash my hands frequently. I lead an active, healthy life style, although my golf game currently sucks, and plan on doing so for many more years to come. When it comes to the health and safety of those people I come into contact with, my conscience is clear and I sleep well.
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08-15-21 17:42 #6195Senior Member

Posts: 1011You don't recall mentioning vaccine hesitancy but a PHD should be able to read the 'report' written by a 'science journalist you linked and make intelligent conclusions re vaccine hesitancy? How does that work?
Originally Posted by Bullett64
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I don't read the Atlantic. Why would I? Why would anybody? A magazine that lost $20m last year and on pace to lose same this year is obviously not a viable product. But is 70% owned by Steve Jobs widow who can afford to lose $20 m per year for 200 years before going broke. I'm sure helping us useless eaters are where her loyalties are
You're approx. 70 years old and suffer from pre-existing conditions which put you in a high risk CCP Virus mortality group. But for us Americans who are younger and healthier than you, mind your own business, don't tell us to be a guinea pig for big pharma or wear an useless mask. Don't insinuate you're more intelligent or more informed. You're not. You're just scared and more at risk then 99% of population. Maybe you should stay at home. Best of luck to you.
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08-15-21 17:23 #6194Banned Member

Posts: 13634I can't imagine any Ph. D that I know who would be opposed to the vaccine, especially any in a health care field. "Most" of them are intelligent people, from what I've experienced. Did the article mention why the doctorate crowd is allegedly so hesitant? I understand the reasons for the Black and Hispanic crowd, but the former group makes no sense.
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08-15-21 15:36 #6193Senior Member

Posts: 307I don't recall ever mentioning vaccine hesitancy. I offered an article that I believe the" right-wing Looney Tunes crowd" would either object to or not understand. I stand by that. I also think a PhD should be able to read the report and make intelligent conclusions about it. If they remain vaccine hesitant, then I will gladly defer to their personal choices, misguided as I think they will prove to be.
Originally Posted by AaronHamlet
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By jumping in with both feet over vaccine hesitancy, I am guessing that you didn't bother to read it.
I did try to save you the effort.
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08-15-21 15:27 #6192Senior Member

Posts: 307Other countries. Which other countries? Ones with similar geopolitical makeup to us or isolated Scandinavian countries with population densities that minimize virus density just by their remoteness? Or Myanmar, which has had no infections at all. Because they said so.
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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Don't draw your conclusions after comparing apples and pickup trucks?
Any list of liars that doesn't begin with Donald Trump shows your true colors. I sincerely hope that you come through this pandemic in good health. I also hope that you feel some responsibility to those who will not after they read the dangerous "facts" you so loosely toss out.
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08-15-21 15:14 #6191Senior Member

Posts: 1011Vaccine hesitancy in the US by education levels shows those with a PHD are the most hesitant. By race, it's blacks and Hispanics. Are PHD's, blacks and Hispanics who you refer to as the 'right-wing Looney Tunes crowd' or do you need to fine tune your prejudices?
Originally Posted by Bullett64
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08-15-21 11:45 #6190Senior Member

Posts: 475That article is not well-reasoned at all, and I'm not a right-wing looney tune. The article is full of holes and comes at everything with the supposition that vaccines are the answer, but provides no supporting evidence to prove those assumptions. Merely making statements as facts doesn't make them so, although I admit most people are gullible enough to accept that. I got halfway through the article before deciding it wasn't even worth reading, because it's so full of false statements and assertions that it wasn't worth wasting more time on. I think you're a reasonable person, so I say this in that spirit, but I think you really should do some further research and data mining, including studying data from other countries, and I think it will be clear why I'm making the statements I do above.
I'll give you just a couple quick examples- the article gives all the credit for the decline of the Covid rates to the vaccination campaign. There's absolutely no evidence to support that, and that can be seen by examining the data from other countries where vaccinations did not take place, and similar declines happened as well. Now that the rates are rising, he excuses the vaccines by saying, oh well, things have changed. So the vaccines get all the credit when things are going well, but are excused when things are not going well. They can't lose! The vaccines may have merits, as well as problems, but let's discuss those honestly, instead of trying to censor everything and create such a one-sided narrative toward the ever-so-obvious end game of forced vaccinations that could be seen coming a mile away. Why are we not talking about why 12 of the 13 most highly-vaccinated countries are on the do not travel lsits, and have some of the highest rates right now? Why is no one talking about the disastrous situation in India anymore? Could it be that because India, with its 7% vaccination rate, has seen Covid case and death rates plunge by 90%? Oh, I guess they can't credit that to the vaccines, so they'd rather not talk about it. Don't you see something wrong with the censoring of information that is going on? Only the information that supports the narrative is being presented. That is not science, and that is not the way we will learn.
Another example of inaccuracy in the article is the 95% hospitalization being made up of unvaccinated. These numbers stand in harsh contrast to numbers being released from other countries, and simply were not believable. Sure enough, CDC director Walensky admits she was distorting this number by using outdated data from January-June of this year, knowing full well that vaccinations didn't even start taking place for the majority of that time frame!
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...035801303.html
That is outright lying by omission, and I don't see how anyone can believe anything this administration says. There are many more examples of things like this- they do it over and over and over to further their agenda.
The article also makes incorrect assertions about the vaccines and the transmissibility of Covid. Shockingly, I even heard Fauci himself admit that the vaccinated could carry as high or even higher viral loads of Covid as the unvaccinated on Face the Nation, and this is why they were going back (once again) to the mask recommendations for the vaccinated. Of course, in the next breath, he contradicted himself (once again) and said everyone needs to get vaccinated to help stop the spread of the virus. This is really not new news, by the way. It's been known all along these vaccines were never designed for immunity, but only for symptomatic relief, and would therefore not prevent the spread. This is why it was so ignorant, irresponsible, and wreckless of the administration to further their agenda with their "pandemic of the unvaccinated" message. I called it out at the time, and it was proven to be true, and they had to eat crow shortly after that, admitting the vaccinated were spreading COVID. But Soros, Rabbit, etc. Blindly followed the brainwashing and party line, simply because it was the party line and they're too feeble-minded to think for themselves. Never mind that this message that the vaccinated were special and immune was total BS, and they knew it, and knew they were spreading Covid to people and risking lives. No, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, that's not important so long as we push our vaccine agenda at all costs, lives included!
Oh, by the way, regarding our tiny-brained president (and his like-minded followers like Soros) who like to denigrate the unvaccinated, I think this study from Carnegie-Mellon showing the most highly-educated are the most vaccine-resistant, will blow what's left of his mind:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1260795v1.full
This administration has lost all credibility, and is the biggest bunch of liars since Cheney / Wolfowitz / Pearle. Biden is probably even more ignorant and a bigger dupe than Bush was. They are the biggest threat to our civil liberties in our lifetime. I hope the American people wake up, but I fear there's far too much apathy and ignorance.
Originally Posted by Bullett64
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08-15-21 10:11 #6189Senior Member

Posts: 307Covid
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...=pocket-newtab
A somewhat lengthy, well-reasoned, unemotional article on where we are in the COVID pandemic and what the future will look like.
Its NOT for the right-wing Looney Tunes crowd.










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