Non Pro's

[Morgan Creamin]

Plus, she's "overwhelmed with messages right now" and instructs that you "order from (her) wi $hlist" to grab her attention. Right.

This is what's so fucked up about this hobby, and especially when dealing with SBs who are hoes who don't think they are hoes- the customer / service-provider dynamic is bass ackwards. They want us to pay them for the 'priviliege' of catering to their needs and whims. Fuck that shit. I'll jerk off until the day I die before I become a simp who goes in for that.

[Morgan Creamin]

$325-350/ wk isn't bad if you get her once a week. Take a look at TNA and see what you would get for $325-350 an hour.

Fair point, but not, in my opinion, for an average looking middle aged sb.

[DrtyHarry]

I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).

I usually cap out at $500 and maybe go a little over if I'm thinking with the little head / the girl is really hot. After 500 I find you get really diminishing returns. Usually the girls that want that much are pros or (worse IMO) strippers. I've had multiple "girlfriend experience" overnights for 300-500 with what I would consider at least 8/10's. They are "no limits" as far as I'm concerned. Like sure if you want some girl who does anal all the time (not really my thing) or let's you shit on her you may have to pay extra, but for full "girlfriend experience" which is way more fun IMO.

Sugar babies always quote their best / most generous sugar daddy. If you have 0 game and treat SA as a pussy delivery service, expect high end escort prices and high end escort services. I wouldn't even consider my game good (maybe 2/10) but it's enough to get me in the door at a much lower price point.

I agree. $2 K for a night, she'd need without limits.

Agree with all the comments here, my budget is in the 300-500 range as well. For me though I would not consider an all nighter unless I have seen her before and know that we will click. Even if she is great in bed. If I am spending anything more than 2-3 hrs with someone I need to know we can talk and are aligned on things. I actually love my space and once I have cum a couple times and have had my fun, I really do not want additional time with a person unless I know both of us will gel. I have done overnights very rarely and most of them have gone exceptionally well because I have planned them and only committed after spending shorer appts. Micheal. I know you started this thread mostly for your travels. That is a similar situation under which I have done a few as well. Mostly I usually message them for a while before the visit and then do a quick short meet when we are there. I typically do that with as many women I can so that I have choices for the actual overnight.

[Original703]

https://www.seeking.com/member/0acd7...9-6270961c3144

Either GPS or scammer. Wants 3-4 K month and asks it you can cashapp her to prove that you're not a pretender. I told her that I don't pay without meeting first, then she ghosts me. Not surprised.

Plus, she's "overwhelmed with messages right now" and instructs that you "order from (her) wi $hlist" to grab her attention. Right.

[3Putt]

$325-350/ wk isn't bad if you get her once a week. Take a look at TNA and see what you would get for $325-350 an hour.

I am pretty sure I posted about her under a different SA user name. I had her come over to my hotel one morning I think we did 200 for the date.

[MrPumpNDump]

Met with an old SB today. We talked a few times, but she wanted to go on dates and didn't want to have sex, so I moved on.

So, we had lunch today. We talked about moving forward again and I told her that I really wasn't interested if sex wasn't involved. She said it was now definitely on the table. So, I asked what changed her mind (pay attention here). She said a guy contacted her and told her he would give her $2,000 if she spent the night with him. So she did it. She actually hated the experience (the guy told her there would be no limits and she agreed, not knowing how utterly depraved us men actually are), but since then realized that if she wants to be a SB, she needs to put out and is now open to it.

$2,000 for a night. That's your competition.

I usually cap out at $500 and maybe go a little over if I'm thinking with the little head / the girl is really hot. After 500 I find you get really diminishing returns. Usually the girls that want that much are pros or (worse IMO) strippers. I've had multiple "girlfriend experience" overnights for 300-500 with what I would consider at least 8/10's. They are "no limits" as far as I'm concerned. Like sure if you want some girl who does anal all the time (not really my thing) or let's you shit on her you may have to pay extra, but for full "girlfriend experience" which is way more fun IMO.

Sugar babies always quote their best / most generous sugar daddy. If you have 0 game and treat SA as a pussy delivery service, expect high end escort prices and high end escort services. I wouldn't even consider my game good (maybe 2/10) but it's enough to get me in the door at a much lower price point.

[TheNovelist]

I find 500 or 600 fair for an overnight with minimal boundaries and a hot young lady.

For 2000 a night I'd expect young porn starlet looks and skills and enthusiasm and pretty much nonstop action all night. And the only boundaries would be how filthy my imagination was.

I agree. $2 K for a night, she'd need without limits.

[JustDc]

But 200-300 or 500 is definitely not the Seattle price. Luckily there are other cities and countries.

I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).

[Marko Ramius]

I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).

I find 500 or 600 fair for an overnight with minimal boundaries and a hot young lady.

For 2000 a night I'd expect young porn starlet looks and skills and enthusiasm and pretty much nonstop action all night. And the only boundaries would be how filthy my imagination was.

[Michael1967]

2,000 for an overnite (8-12 hrs) is kind of a discount for a no limits session with a hottie. I mean, objectively and all.

I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).

[Michael1967]

https://www.seeking.com/member/a0e15...9-af325bbe0c4c

GPS and smells like drama.

She contacted me and as she's not too terrible looking for her age, at least as it seems from the one pic posted, I went with the flow just to see what's what because usually the older ones are less drama. We moved to text and when I went out of signal for a couple hours she sent a text and a message on SA trying to shame me for not responding in time. That's a huge red flag for me, I have no tolerance for high maintenance hoors in this hobby. I'll fucking text you when I text you, you can answer or not as you choose, but the moment you start making demands on my time or schedule I'm out.

Never really got into details about what her boundaries are but she did message that she's "very sexual" YMMV. She wants $1500/mo which is way out of line with her looks and age.

$325-350/ wk isn't bad if you get her once a week. Take a look at TNA and see what you would get for $325-350 an hour.

[Morgan Creamin]

https://www.seeking.com/member/a0e15...9-af325bbe0c4c

GPS and smells like drama.

She contacted me and as she's not too terrible looking for her age, at least as it seems from the one pic posted, I went with the flow just to see what's what because usually the older ones are less drama. We moved to text and when I went out of signal for a couple hours she sent a text and a message on SA trying to shame me for not responding in time. That's a huge red flag for me, I have no tolerance for high maintenance hoors in this hobby. I'll fucking text you when I text you, you can answer or not as you choose, but the moment you start making demands on my time or schedule I'm out.

Never really got into details about what her boundaries are but she did message that she's "very sexual" YMMV. She wants $1500/mo which is way out of line with her looks and age.

[Flyer99]

2,000 for an overnite (8-12 hrs) is kind of a discount for a no limits session with a hottie. I mean, objectively and all.

Met with an old SB today. We talked a few times, but she wanted to go on dates and didn't want to have sex, so I moved on.

So, we had lunch today. We talked about moving forward again and I told her that I really wasn't interested if sex wasn't involved. She said it was now definitely on the table. So, I asked what changed her mind (pay attention here). She said a guy contacted her and told her he would give her $2,000 if she spent the night with him. So she did it. She actually hated the experience (the guy told her there would be no limits and she agreed, not knowing how utterly depraved us men actually are), but since then realized that if she wants to be a SB, she needs to put out and is now open to it.

$2,000 for a night. That's your competition.

[Michael1967]

Met with an old SB today. We talked a few times, but she wanted to go on dates and didn't want to have sex, so I moved on.

So, we had lunch today. We talked about moving forward again and I told her that I really wasn't interested if sex wasn't involved. She said it was now definitely on the table. So, I asked what changed her mind (pay attention here). She said a guy contacted her and told her he would give her $2,000 if she spent the night with him. So she did it. She actually hated the experience (the guy told her there would be no limits and she agreed, not knowing how utterly depraved us men actually are), but since then realized that if she wants to be a SB, she needs to put out and is now open to it.

$2,000 for a night. That's your competition.

[RadialSea]

Since this is my 1st post on this subject I wanted to share my exp being on SDM for a while now, despite being through on filtering out its been unsuccessful on landing real dates or the expectations are way over the roof.

I wanted to check out SA too and see what's cooking in there too but since the subscription is relatively high to SDM I wanted to get an opinion on should I get it anyway and give it a try or stick with SDM and keep trying.

Also I've had a few flaked out last min after all the arrangements are made, how do you gents cut your losses at that time and move on?