"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**TheHobbyLobby** · 07-20-21 18:55

Originally Posted by RogerOver [View Original Post]

The sad part is, even if someone circulated a petition to get guys to boycott the site until they straightened that shit out, you couldn't get enough participation to have any effect. The lure of the very possibility of pussy is too strong for some / most of the guys on there.

I would sign that petition. I say we boycott on No Nut November. The only way any company will change is if you hit them in the wallet.

**Hal1957** · 07-20-21 18:15

Move the conversation off SA as quickly as possible. It's safer to do your negotiating away from their prying eyes. And you don't lose your contact information when your membership expires.

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

Like most, I only get a month's membership in SA at a time, build up a lot of contacts, and try to follow up on them even after my membership expires. However, I find that even if I have had good interactions texting with a POT, it can be difficult when I no longer have a profile on the site (I take it down when I am not paid, to prevent a lot of fruitless messaging) to them to engage. Does anyone have any tricks to get this going?

**RogerOver** · 07-20-21 10:40

Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]

It's a weird business model for sure. The paying customer is the second rate citizen. The girls (the bait) is treated like a royalty. I get it, they need girls to generate customers but come on, does it have to be this bad for SDs? I'm guessing they ran the numbers and figured out this is the best way until their reputation is into the ground and guys stop paying for lack of value. As opposed to weeding out all scammers and platonic and ending up with too few girls. Thereby just re-enforcing the scammers and platonic requests since they run free on the site.

The sad part is, even if someone circulated a petition to get guys to boycott the site until they straightened that shit out, you couldn't get enough participation to have any effect. The lure of the very possibility of pussy is too strong for some / most of the guys on there.

**Jcn1965** · 07-20-21 09:46

Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]

It's a weird business model for sure. The paying customer is the second rate citizen. The girls (the bait) is treated like a royalty. I get it, they need girls to generate customers but come on, does it have to be this bad for SDs? I'm guessing they ran the numbers and figured out this is the best way until their reputation is into the ground and guys stop paying for lack of value. As opposed to weeding out all scammers and platonic and ending up with too few girls. Thereby just re-enforcing the scammers and platonic requests since they run free on the site.

Absolutely. After 30 days of poor contacts and got one out of 100 I stopped paying. I now only use BLK or tinder and my % of meeting has actually improved. I tracked my progress for 3 weeks. Out of 76 reach outs on BLK I got 10 responses then out of those I got 5 digits. So far I've met one which was successful and I got another meeting planned when I get chance to get to Va beach area. It's free costs me nothing but time. Be safe.

**FarFarAway** · 07-20-21 09:45

Like most, I only get a month's membership in SA at a time, build up a lot of contacts, and try to follow up on them even after my membership expires. However, I find that even if I have had good interactions texting with a POT, it can be difficult when I no longer have a profile on the site (I take it down when I am not paid, to prevent a lot of fruitless messaging) to them to engage. Does anyone have any tricks to get this going?

**EvilTmp** · 07-20-21 09:16

Originally Posted by TomDickNHarry [View Original Post]

That should be the rebranding of this site. The number of girls basically on for handouts, or as they put it "spoiling" is off the charts thanks to social media / tik tok and SA refusing to enforce its own rules for the female profiles. Rather than trying to improve it, SA makes it even worse as now their wish lists are automatically in the profile text and promoted even more.

I mean, has there ever been a site focused less on the paying customers than this one. It's so ripe for disruption it's insane. I still find gems but it gets worse and worse every day.

It's a weird business model for sure. The paying customer is the second rate citizen. The girls (the bait) is treated like a royalty. I get it, they need girls to generate customers but come on, does it have to be this bad for SDs? I'm guessing they ran the numbers and figured out this is the best way until their reputation is into the ground and guys stop paying for lack of value. As opposed to weeding out all scammers and platonic and ending up with too few girls. Thereby just re-enforcing the scammers and platonic requests since they run free on the site.

**Shampoo55** · 07-19-21 20:04

Originally Posted by TomDickNHarry [View Original Post]

That should be the rebranding of this site. The number of girls basically on for handouts, or as they put it "spoiling" is off the charts thanks to social media / tik tok and SA refusing to enforce its own rules for the female profiles. Rather than trying to improve it, SA makes it even worse as now their wish lists are automatically in the profile text and promoted even more.

I mean, has there ever been a site focused less on the paying customers than this one. It's so ripe for disruption it's insane. I still find gems but it gets worse and worse every day.

It's just a business monetizing any angle it can get its hands on! SD buys those gifts through their site, they get a kick back, no doubt. I mean Brandon Wade hasn't made enough money yet. He needs a $MM a month to support his SB. LOL.

But without enticing girls with the fantasy of something for nothing, a lot of girls wouldn't show up. No girls, no paying guys! LOL!

**TomDickNHarry** · 07-19-21 19:18

That should be the rebranding of this site. The number of girls basically on for handouts, or as they put it "spoiling" is off the charts thanks to social media / tik tok and SA refusing to enforce its own rules for the female profiles. Rather than trying to improve it, SA makes it even worse as now their wish lists are automatically in the profile text and promoted even more.

I mean, has there ever been a site focused less on the paying customers than this one. It's so ripe for disruption it's insane. I still find gems but it gets worse and worse every day.

**S2568** · 07-19-21 18:32

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/2a24f...b-25cdce4ee0e8

Anyone have intel on her?

Gave me her number right away sounds like a pro eager to meet have not jumped in yet.

**SBmidlo** · 07-19-21 17:50

Sometimes they're both! There has been a lot of discussion about this recently.

Have been chatting with this on on SA recently. https://www.seeking.com/member/c1cc8...8-8e448d6b417d.

She sent me her number today to start texting. I always Google the number and the first listing is her ad on Escort Monkey LOL.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/criss-es...ersburg-942745

Just sharing info.

**Geechie Dan** · 07-18-21 13:57

https://www.seeking.com/member/2a24f...b-25cdce4ee0e8

Anyone have intel on her?

**CopperPotDrip** · 07-16-21 23:48

https://www.seeking.com/member/dc4f3...6-3e74a523fed6

Little bit of a gem if you like them on the thicc side. Recently single and looking for a good time. Was on my way to her place, buried in her within minutes of meeting. Apartment does reek of cats. Went home with a perfume smell that was hard to get off.

Credit to Hungre1234 for post above.

Agree with everything, yet I would say she is more small BBW than thick but it's your call. Had a nice 2 hour out call with her recently. $250. She is free during week days and week nights. Unapologetic, pretty girl, nice brown eyes, confident and dtf. GFE. All holes. Takes all directions well. Squirter. She can host, too. Damages are not bad, and she is only going to be here until Fall. Bareback, passionate, nice kisser, CIP and CIMWS on the table. Treat her fair, and she will open up.

**Hal1957** · 07-16-21 08:02

The answers to your questions are mostly golden tactics, depending on your objective. If you're looking for a long-term arrangement, spend more time up front and make sure she's truly on the same page. If you're looking for a couple of trysts and then move on, you're more interested in the PPM game where you offer something reasonable for her time for a few hours. I shoot for single mothers 25-40 who have been neglected and want the attention as much as the cash. If the conversation is good and her situation allows for overnights or extended visits, especially if she can host, I'm going to shoot for long-term. If the best she can offer is a few hours, it will be PPM while my search continues.

Originally Posted by Shampoo55 [View Original Post]

Just wanted to say THANKS for all of the replies and view points! Good stuff all around! I am making some adjustments based on all of the great advice. THANK YOU!

Funny side note, as I was reading the advice posts, was in a text convo with a girl. Somehow she got offended and went to the "I'm not a prostitute" place! LOL! So I just inserted the advice / line given here and she's still on the line! LOL!

This place and youse guys are Golden!

**Shampoo55** · 07-15-21 19:19

Just wanted to say THANKS for all of the replies and view points! Good stuff all around! I am making some adjustments based on all of the great advice. THANK YOU!

Funny side note, as I was reading the advice posts, was in a text convo with a girl. Somehow she got offended and went to the "I'm not a prostitute" place! LOL! So I just inserted the advice / line given here and she's still on the line! LOL!

This place and youse guys are Golden!

**CopperPotDrip** · 07-15-21 14:48

Agree with FFA about Text Me. It can be a window you don't want your SO to see. I have used Text Me since day one. It's free, as long as you use it at least once every 30 days. First line free, additional lines cost. However, it is loaded with ads since it is free and sometimes the ads show up immediately after you send or receive a text and the ad hijacks your phone completely for 5 seconds. You have to let the ad finish before you can close it. That is my only complaint, so I turn off the media volume setting when I text. I don't want anyone hearing some random ad in the other room. IPad has the same text me app, and it does not hijack. Also, if you leave the app open and a girl texts you, your phone will notify you and it shows up on your home screen. So don't put it down at home when the app is open. My suggestion is to logout of the app, then completely uninstall the app from your phone at the end of the day. You won't lose any texts. I go a step further and delete my history of downloaded apps in AppStore. When you are ready to contact again, just download the app again, log in, see your new messages, and do your thing. Other nuances. If you don't contact a girl for 60 days, it will flush your text thread. Keep a written list of numbers hidden or just keep in touch. I've had girls reach out six months afterward and the app won't recognize the name so it's good to have a list to match the number up to. Also, if someone sends you a pic, it will attach itself to your photo gallery so be sure to delete it for photo gallery. It sounds like a lot of work but the app is easy, quick, and flies under the radar.

Originally Posted by RokurWorld [View Original Post]

TextNow is also another free app. Costs money to lock in a number after inactivity, or for premium features, but otherwise, very easy to use.