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  1. #10892

    Rubratings-Hotel Asians

    Anyone seen any of the hotel asians with the current crop of 3-4 ads?

    I reached out to the 901 handler tonight and she said she hadn't seen the girl but she knew she was young. The ad says 27 but been down that road before.

    I saw one from the 541 number a 2-3 weeks ago named Lisa, probably in her 40's, 7 on the AMP scale. Pulled out cover for BJ, I asked for BBBJ. Got the reply, no condom suck, no condom fuck 40 more. I said Ok and she gave a pretty decent BBBJ. Went on for 5 or so minutes, not the usual 2, LOL.

    Then she said lets fuck and mounted me bareback! My little head was in control and I banged one out and immediately regretted my decision! Stiff dick has no conscience!

    I went through about 5 wet wipes and then rinsed off. Sped home and took a shower right away. Thankfully, I have had no lingering effects!! Been a long time since I went BBFS with any provider. But, its on the table with some of them I suppose.

    I may visit the 901 tomorrow, out of all the numbers, I think I have had my best luck with that one.

  2. #10891
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodWill123  [View Original Post]
    Was there supposed to be an actual question with this? Sorry maybe I missed it, but I have no idea what you're asking.
    It was more of a rhetorical question type statement, hoping someone would tag on and say something like ohhh yeah that's a good place to visit for. Or no bro save your money, its straight up legit. I was giving enough detail to see if anybody else had been there.

  3. #10890

    Well Being. Was there a question?

    Was there supposed to be an actual question with this? Sorry maybe I missed it, but I have no idea what you're asking.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaSandmn88  [View Original Post]
    I have a quick question before I spend this money trying to remember why I haven't been back to this location in Montgomery. The last time I was there, COVID-19 was new and this female was in there sneezing. She said it was her allergies. I can't even remember the massage that well. The female was nice, I give her that, but wasn't memorable. I'm not sure if it was. "all done" before the flip or flipped and diy, I swear I can't remember.

  4. #10889

    AMP's

    Guys I think that's close, but it's not exactly 50/50 for every shop in Cincy. There are at least two in Cincy that operate differently, more like 70/30, but they get other benefits. But you're right, they get to keep their tips, which is why they depend on them so much. Typically their "boss" or 1-level up also pays their health insurance. Most of them are on group health (and dental) insurance, which is a huge deal for them. They do their annual pilgrimage to Flushing NY to get their shots, medical exams, etc. In some cases, Chicago or Cleveland.

    They almost all have to pay for their own food, which is why many of them cook at night and store up for the next day. Most live an apartment, usually paid for by the boss or "owner. " You're right, some do sleep in the shop, but depending on the "plaza" and local laws, that's not always allowed, so they need to remain low key. Lastly, you'd be surprised at how well-connected these girls are (Cincy-Louisville-Lexington-Dayton-Columbus-Cleveland). They can get help from a friend when in need.

    Quote Originally Posted by AsianFever5  [View Original Post]
    The split in Cincinnati is 50/50 on the house fee in every shop in Cincinnati. Girls keep all their tips. Actually, the workers make far more than the boss / owner. Every shop in this area is owned by an individual. Usually she works too. For example, Sunny owns D&C, Hanako owns D&P and on and on.

  5. #10888

    Split

    Quote Originally Posted by AsianFever5  [View Original Post]
    The split in Cincinnati is 50/50 on the house fee in every shop in Cincinnati. Girls keep all their tips. Actually, the workers make far more than the boss / owner. Every shop in this area is owned by an individual. Usually she works too. For example, Sunny owns D&C, Hanako owns D&P and on and on.
    I've known that some girls get a 50/50 split but I didn't know that it's become the normal in Cincinnati. Most owners that I know have paid 40% of the door to the average worker. It is a fact that the girls make more than the Boss unless she also takes guests or employs a larger number of therapists.

  6. #10887

    Galbrith

    1st time in a few months and they had some new blood in there. Drew Susan and I would guess she is in her 30 and attractive! Hands were aloud to Rome but it felt like she had a suit of armor under a short dress! HJ was performed after a above average rub down. Will repeat because they are close to my work.

  7. #10886
    Quote Originally Posted by PeteCastillone  [View Original Post]
    Some massage shops even pay the girls commission.
    The split in Cincinnati is 50/50 on the house fee in every shop in Cincinnati. Girls keep all their tips. Actually, the workers make far more than the boss / owner. Every shop in this area is owned by an individual. Usually she works too. For example, Sunny owns D&C, Hanako owns D&P and on and on.

  8. #10885

    Accurate!

    Quote Originally Posted by HotBoss  [View Original Post]
    Sorry my friend. This is mostly fantasy.

    On 6/19/2021 you said that you were new to massage parlors. Most of what you wrote here is nonsense. I can say this because I have exclusively dated women from non erotic massage parlors (like most of the places in the mid west) for more than 10 years. My current girlfriend has owned multiple AMP's and I've spent OTC time with owners of other AMP's. They are not owned or operated by some Chinese mob. They are small businesses that try to follow the rules and pay taxes. The women are not forced into servitude. Despite what you are told, the ladies normally get 30% to 40% of the door fee plus 100% of the tips. The therapists are considered 1099 employees.

    Most of these women just want to see America for a few years. Some find a way to stay here. Most come from middle class families in China and are here by choice. They do not consider themselves prostitutes. They are clean, not drug users, and they take care of their bodies. Massage parlors are a good way to finance their travels.

    Living arrangements are really simple. The Spa owner usually rents an apartment near the massage parlor. The girls don't want to sign for a one year lease because they don't intend to stay in one place that long. They typically pay the spa owner $10 per night and look at it like a hostel for travelers. Some girls actually prefer to just sleep at the massage parlor which causes many unaware people to assume they are slaves which they are not. They consider this to be efficient.

    I'm not intending to slam DeSanti for his comments. I'm writing this because people should know that much of what we hear about massage parlors is BS. I'll respond by DM if you have questions.
    Some massage shops even pay the girls commission.

  9. #10884

    Don't open an AMP

    Quote Originally Posted by DeSanti  [View Original Post]
    The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

    Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

    They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.


    So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

    So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.
    Sorry my friend. This is mostly fantasy.

    On 6/19/2021 you said that you were new to massage parlors. Most of what you wrote here is nonsense. I can say this because I have exclusively dated women from non erotic massage parlors (like most of the places in the mid west) for more than 10 years. My current girlfriend has owned multiple AMP's and I've spent OTC time with owners of other AMP's. They are not owned or operated by some Chinese mob. They are small businesses that try to follow the rules and pay taxes. The women are not forced into servitude. Despite what you are told, the ladies normally get 30% to 40% of the door fee plus 100% of the tips. The therapists are considered 1099 employees.

    Most of these women just want to see America for a few years. Some find a way to stay here. Most come from middle class families in China and are here by choice. They do not consider themselves prostitutes. They are clean, not drug users, and they take care of their bodies. Massage parlors are a good way to finance their travels.

    Living arrangements are really simple. The Spa owner usually rents an apartment near the massage parlor. The girls don't want to sign for a one year lease because they don't intend to stay in one place that long. They typically pay the spa owner $10 per night and look at it like a hostel for travelers. Some girls actually prefer to just sleep at the massage parlor which causes many unaware people to assume they are slaves which they are not. They consider this to be efficient.

    I'm not intending to slam DeSanti for his comments. I'm writing this because people should know that much of what we hear about massage parlors is BS. I'll respond by DM if you have questions.

  10. #10883

    Absolutely wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by DeSanti  [View Original Post]
    The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

    Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

    They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

    So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

    So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.
    That is not the case at all!

  11. #10882
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1189

    AMP girls; pay; housing, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeSanti  [View Original Post]
    The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

    Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

    They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

    So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

    So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.
    Your explanation and detail sounds pretty likely to me, based on the little I know about these places. But I'm curious what YOUR background is, DeSanti. Where does your info come from? Just curious.

  12. #10881

    Living in SHop

    Quote Originally Posted by DeSanti  [View Original Post]
    The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

    Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

    They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

    So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

    So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.
    Actually it is very common for them to sleep in the shop. It happens at many places. As most are usually only on a visitor or work visa and do not drive. The manager of shop may have once or twice a week grocery runs. But I do know they do sleep in the shops in more cases than you suspect.

  13. #10880

    Curency conversion, fingers to dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by DaSandmn88  [View Original Post]
    I went to goose before I went to work the other day. Both females spoke English very well. Both of them were younger. The first female showed me the room, asked me the how long question, got the house fee and left. She came back and started my massage. I guess she didn't like I was touching up the back of her legs because she said something in Chinese and left the room. The other female. "Lisa" finished what she started. The first one had a softer touch. Lisa was kneeding dough. LOL, but it was ok.

    She asked me what I did for a living. When I told her, she went out and got that infamous hot towel, and boy was it hot. She came back and started her version of teasing. I like it. I like it.

    On the flip, she asked me. You going to take care of me. I said yes. She asked how much? I held up 4 fingers. She said, not 6. I said no. She said next time then. She proceeded to work on jr and in no time, pop goes the weasel. I would return to see her. I still don't know what that other one's problem was. I can assume she wasn't ready. LOL.
    At AMPs, I use a combination of English, sign language, and actual demonstration, but I am uncertain about the finger signs. I usually bring 20's with me. So, is 4 fingers $40 or $80?

  14. #10879
    Quote Originally Posted by ComicGeek77  [View Original Post]
    I have wondered that same thing. Not that they sleep on the tables, but maybe there are some rooms in the back or something. It seems there are only a few girls at a time, so I can see that being the case.
    The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

    Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

    They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

    So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

    So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.

  15. #10878

    I wonder about the same thing

    I have wondered that same thing. Not that they sleep on the tables, but maybe there are some rooms in the back or something. It seems there are only a few girls at a time, so I can see that being the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyteHawk  [View Original Post]
    So I thought I would ask a question that I have been curious about for a long time to all the mongers here In Cincy. I have a suspicion that the gals at all of the AMPs live in the AMPs, sleeping on the massage tables we lie on and get happy. I say this because most people in the Asian world sleep on Futons or some kind of bedding that is on the floor, and typically not in a bed that is raised off of the ground. And one would assume that these ladies are here to make money, so they would save a lot by sleeping at work. I have never seen a shower set up in any of these places, but then again, I have never seen the full layout. What do ya'll think?

    Nytehawk.

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