Massage Parlor Reports

**PeteCastillone** · 07-09-21 21:47

Originally Posted by HotBoss [View Original Post]

Sorry my friend. This is mostly fantasy.

On 6/19/2021 you said that you were new to massage parlors. Most of what you wrote here is nonsense. I can say this because I have exclusively dated women from non erotic massage parlors (like most of the places in the mid west) for more than 10 years. My current girlfriend has owned multiple AMP's and I've spent OTC time with owners of other AMP's. They are not owned or operated by some Chinese mob. They are small businesses that try to follow the rules and pay taxes. The women are not forced into servitude. Despite what you are told, the ladies normally get 30% to 40% of the door fee plus 100% of the tips. The therapists are considered 1099 employees.

Most of these women just want to see America for a few years. Some find a way to stay here. Most come from middle class families in China and are here by choice. They do not consider themselves prostitutes. They are clean, not drug users, and they take care of their bodies. Massage parlors are a good way to finance their travels.

Living arrangements are really simple. The Spa owner usually rents an apartment near the massage parlor. The girls don't want to sign for a one year lease because they don't intend to stay in one place that long. They typically pay the spa owner $10 per night and look at it like a hostel for travelers. Some girls actually prefer to just sleep at the massage parlor which causes many unaware people to assume they are slaves which they are not. They consider this to be efficient.

I'm not intending to slam DeSanti for his comments. I'm writing this because people should know that much of what we hear about massage parlors is BS. I'll respond by DM if you have questions.

Some massage shops even pay the girls commission.

**HotBoss** · 07-09-21 17:38

Originally Posted by DeSanti [View Original Post]

The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.

Sorry my friend. This is mostly fantasy.

On 6/19/2021 you said that you were new to massage parlors. Most of what you wrote here is nonsense. I can say this because I have exclusively dated women from non erotic massage parlors (like most of the places in the mid west) for more than 10 years. My current girlfriend has owned multiple AMP's and I've spent OTC time with owners of other AMP's. They are not owned or operated by some Chinese mob. They are small businesses that try to follow the rules and pay taxes. The women are not forced into servitude. Despite what you are told, the ladies normally get 30% to 40% of the door fee plus 100% of the tips. The therapists are considered 1099 employees.

Most of these women just want to see America for a few years. Some find a way to stay here. Most come from middle class families in China and are here by choice. They do not consider themselves prostitutes. They are clean, not drug users, and they take care of their bodies. Massage parlors are a good way to finance their travels.

Living arrangements are really simple. The Spa owner usually rents an apartment near the massage parlor. The girls don't want to sign for a one year lease because they don't intend to stay in one place that long. They typically pay the spa owner $10 per night and look at it like a hostel for travelers. Some girls actually prefer to just sleep at the massage parlor which causes many unaware people to assume they are slaves which they are not. They consider this to be efficient.

I'm not intending to slam DeSanti for his comments. I'm writing this because people should know that much of what we hear about massage parlors is BS. I'll respond by DM if you have questions.

**PeteCastillone** · 07-09-21 16:59

Originally Posted by DeSanti [View Original Post]

The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.

That is not the case at all!

**Kenal1** · 07-09-21 16:16

Originally Posted by DeSanti [View Original Post]

The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.

Your explanation and detail sounds pretty likely to me, based on the little I know about these places. But I'm curious what YOUR background is, DeSanti. Where does your info come from? Just curious.

**KorangJunga** · 07-09-21 15:48

Originally Posted by DeSanti [View Original Post]

The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.

Actually it is very common for them to sleep in the shop. It happens at many places. As most are usually only on a visitor or work visa and do not drive. The manager of shop may have once or twice a week grocery runs. But I do know they do sleep in the shops in more cases than you suspect.

**Golden3** · 07-09-21 11:32

Originally Posted by DaSandmn88 [View Original Post]

I went to goose before I went to work the other day. Both females spoke English very well. Both of them were younger. The first female showed me the room, asked me the how long question, got the house fee and left. She came back and started my massage. I guess she didn't like I was touching up the back of her legs because she said something in Chinese and left the room. The other female. "Lisa" finished what she started. The first one had a softer touch. Lisa was kneeding dough. LOL, but it was ok.

She asked me what I did for a living. When I told her, she went out and got that infamous hot towel, and boy was it hot. She came back and started her version of teasing. I like it. I like it.

On the flip, she asked me. You going to take care of me. I said yes. She asked how much? I held up 4 fingers. She said, not 6. I said no. She said next time then. She proceeded to work on jr and in no time, pop goes the weasel. I would return to see her. I still don't know what that other one's problem was. I can assume she wasn't ready. LOL.

At AMPs, I use a combination of English, sign language, and actual demonstration, but I am uncertain about the finger signs. I usually bring 20's with me. So, is 4 fingers $40 or $80?

**DeSanti** · 07-09-21 10:26

Originally Posted by ComicGeek77 [View Original Post]

I have wondered that same thing. Not that they sleep on the tables, but maybe there are some rooms in the back or something. It seems there are only a few girls at a time, so I can see that being the case.

The girls aren't typically fresh off the boat. They been in the country for some time. They don't usually put the girls to work right away. They slowly assimilate them and have them doing other errands. They actually pick out who would be good as a working girl and who wouldn't. The girls would also have to consent to it. What they do is get a lease for an apartment or a small home but typically someone external from the business owns a small home or apartment and gets paid to rent it out to someone else whos also external who then boards the girls there. The girls board up there sharing the cost, or the handlers would even pay the cost themselves.

Even a place like Sakura for example. The typical FS cost is 1. 6 to 2+ With a. 4 to. 6 house fee. Typically, places like that will also pocket a % of the extra. So for example, girls like Angela were charging fellas 2. + for Hr / FS typically. The house was probably getting about. 8 of that.

They have 2 girls working and both are doing at least HE per hhr. That's 1. To 1. 2 per sesh meaning a potential 2. To 2. 4 per hour. The Parlor walks out of that with at least. 8 from house to 1. 2 including %. If the girls keep basic rates like that for 8 hours. The parlor just paid its rent for the month, and the next day they paid the rent for the girls decent 2 bd apartment or 3 bd house. By day 5, they made the money to pay everyone essentials. Meaning all the $ they make from week 2 to week 4 is just pocketed. The amount of resources used to clean are chalked up as business losses and they get tax credit for it.

So, as mongerers. We may only think its just the handler and the working girls involved but typically set ups like Sakura include dozens of people behind the scenes, and even muscle when needed.

So I very much doubt the girls sleep there. They do probably live somewhere very close by, and more than likely do not pay for rent / utilities.

**ComicGeek77** · 07-09-21 08:41

I have wondered that same thing. Not that they sleep on the tables, but maybe there are some rooms in the back or something. It seems there are only a few girls at a time, so I can see that being the case.

Originally Posted by NyteHawk [View Original Post]

So I thought I would ask a question that I have been curious about for a long time to all the mongers here In Cincy. I have a suspicion that the gals at all of the AMPs live in the AMPs, sleeping on the massage tables we lie on and get happy. I say this because most people in the Asian world sleep on Futons or some kind of bedding that is on the floor, and typically not in a bed that is raised off of the ground. And one would assume that these ladies are here to make money, so they would save a lot by sleeping at work. I have never seen a shower set up in any of these places, but then again, I have never seen the full layout. What do ya'll think?

Nytehawk.

**MUredHawk513** · 07-09-21 07:14

Haha, yeah that's exactly what I did. Glad I decided to post. If it's not too much trouble, can you DM me some more specific details of where I'm heading, things to know about the location?

Thanks!

**DaSandmn88** · 07-09-21 00:42

I went to goose before I went to work the other day. Both females spoke English very well. Both of them were younger. The first female showed me the room, asked me the how long question, got the house fee and left. She came back and started my massage. I guess she didn't like I was touching up the back of her legs because she said something in Chinese and left the room. The other female. "Lisa" finished what she started. The first one had a softer touch. Lisa was kneeding dough. LOL, but it was ok.

She asked me what I did for a living. When I told her, she went out and got that infamous hot towel, and boy was it hot. She came back and started her version of teasing. I like it. I like it.

On the flip, she asked me. You going to take care of me. I said yes. She asked how much? I held up 4 fingers. She said, not 6. I said no. She said next time then. She proceeded to work on jr and in no time, pop goes the weasel. I would return to see her. I still don't know what that other one's problem was. I can assume she wasn't ready. LOL.

**DaSandmn88** · 07-09-21 00:32

I have a quick question before I spend this money trying to remember why I haven't been back to this location in Montgomery. The last time I was there, COVID-19 was new and this female was in there sneezing. She said it was her allergies. I can't even remember the massage that well. The female was nice, I give her that, but wasn't memorable. I'm not sure if it was. "all done" before the flip or flipped and diy, I swear I can't remember.

**DaSandmn88** · 07-09-21 00:22

Originally Posted by NyteHawk [View Original Post]

Dude, it sounds as if you were at D&C. Make sure you go to the right place. You do NOT want the parlor next to the Chinese restaurant, but the other one in a business building. D&C is great, but 100% legit. Do not ask for a happy there, or you will be asked to leave and banned.

Nytehawk.

Nytehawk, I really have to agree with you on this one too. That was not my experience when I went up there. I guess if you are not paying attention to the actual address, you would end up at the wrong spot. I mean D & C stands out and they know it. I wonder how many poor souls went there and left "unhappy. ".

**DaSandmn88** · 07-09-21 00:15

I really don't know how to start this one. I read this ad and it said.

"I got the Jacuzzi Special for 60 minutes and then I also have a 90 minute.

Jacuzzi Special. oh the Jacuzzi Special's starts out with a warm oil.

Massage inside the Jacuzzi with me of course and then you just a towel dry over.

To the next part of your muscle massage and then of course ending with some.

Very special full services I also have the q. V. Don't forget about that HH. ".

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...nnati/64247715

I knew it was wrong the moment I pulled into the parking lot. It's in a run down motel up in Colerain. She made me wait about 15 minutes, with her "getting ready. " When I got to the door, finally, she was in a robe, with lingerie. Business first, the hour cost me. 20. No problem right? After that she says get comfortable and get in the tub, which was the best part of the visit. She comes over to me and brings some freaking Johnson and Johnson baby oil and starts rubbing it on me like she putting dry rub on a steak.

I sat there listening to her story, ok, not what I came for. Now I am really not in the mood. I get out, she hands me a towel and says dry off and get on the towel on the bed. Okay.

She starts playing with my nipple with her fingers and stroking around my legs, I guess trying to get jr up. I reached over and touched her breast and jr responded. I said in my mind. Ok let's finish this.

She grabs the condom, put it on me, and laid down in missionary. I asked her can she turn over. This heffa almost freaked out and said NOO. Afterwards, she explained she had a friend that was robbed and almost killed with her back turned to her john. I ended up doing a diy. She is dead azz scared of bodily fluid. The condom came off and she slid so far to the left and handed me a towel and told me to throw it in the trash when I was done.

I got myself together and left.

**DaSandmn88** · 07-08-21 23:53

Originally Posted by MarblesKyle [View Original Post]

She's f*cking gross looking. If she manages her schedule book as poorly as reviews indicate how well do you think she manages her hygiene?

If we keep trying to see sh*tty providers, they will keep existing.

I have to agree with you on this one. She kept putting me off so much, I thought she was one of those scam things or LE trying to set my azz up. I really didn't think she was a legit person until this post. It makes perfect sense now.

I can't reward bad behaviour. LOL.

**DaSandmn88** · 07-08-21 23:48

Originally Posted by Mark43 [View Original Post]

First of all, I agree with your review of Sasa. She gets the job done, but not worth a second visit imo.

I loved Angela 's pretty face and sexy body. I had three good visits with her. None made it to the great level, but I would have kept seeing her had she stayed.

Finally my favorite Mimi. Always a great time from visit one. Services opened up more with each visit. We definitely hit it off.

Now the important info. Mimi will be returning soon. How soon? Within days soon. I trust my source to be in the know.

I never got a chance to see Mimi. I had the same experience with Lisa. In MY opinion, I like Sunny. She has always been very nice to me, took care of my needs, no fuss no mess. With all the hype surrounding Mimi, I am torn. LOL. She doesn't seem to have a lot of time to go around. LOL.