"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Peter Johnson** · 07-10-21 11:55

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

Well, we all have our fair share of fantasy, don't we?. May be you have a law degree, so you may be better qualified to know whether sugaring is "criminal offence" or not. I am not going to argue on that. But I am not worried at all. If you read my post carefully, my point was if you made LEO come after you for whatever the reason, where you signed up with a fake credit card with someone else's name or your name makes no difference. They will find you. In fact using a fake name would be more incriminating. Of course most of these girls are BSC. That's why you have to treat them with respect and be careful. I have had more than 80 SBs over the past 4 years, most hang out at my house. Not a single issue from anyone. When I end the arrangement, for the last meet I give them double my normal allowance. No issue from anyone. We all have to be careful in this hobby, but if you have to look over your shoulder all the time, you are not enjoying it.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

Yes, I have done some extensive sugaring as well, and no issues yet. That doesn't mean it won't happen, and that doesn't mean I want to make it extra easy for it to happen. And I understand that ignorance is bliss, but some of us do not like to be reckless and careless, when it is unnecessary.

It does apparently take a bit more work to get on SA, with prepaid card and different name, etc but it is worth the extra effort to lower the risk. I don't look over my shoulder all the time. Not even close. And one doesn't need to have a law degree to figure out whether sugaring can be seen as against the law or not. That is common sense. Again, I hope your good luck continues. It probably will, but it very well may not.

**DrSummer** · 07-10-21 11:25

Well, we all have our fair share of fantasy, don't we?. May be you have a law degree, so you may be better qualified to know whether sugaring is "criminal offence" or not. I am not going to argue on that. But I am not worried at all. If you read my post carefully, my point was if you made LEO come after you for whatever the reason, where you signed up with a fake credit card with someone else's name or your name makes no difference. They will find you. In fact using a fake name would be more incriminating. Of course most of these girls are BSC. That's why you have to treat them with respect and be careful. I have had more than 80 SBs over the past 4 years, most hang out at my house. Not a single issue from anyone. When I end the arrangement, for the last meet I give them double my normal allowance. No issue from anyone. We all have to be careful in this hobby, but if you have to look over your shoulder all the time, you are not enjoying it.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

Famous last words.

To be totally frank, to some degree you live in a deluded fantasy world, and I hope that reality never comes crashing through. The sad truth is that many women out there are batshit crazy. They can, and will, accuse you of anything. And many of them will even believe it happened.

And beyond that, these sugaring arrangements are a legal gray area, and certainly could be seen as a "criminal offense".

Anyway, I honestly wish you the best of luck, but just explaining why some of us are a bit more careful, with leaving an easy paper trail for a LE, etc.

**Peter Johnson** · 07-10-21 11:05

Originally Posted by HugeDell [View Original Post]

I am single no wife no kids, I am not really hiding from anyone, I need to be on there as it's life and death situation, I am very depressed and I think a good GFE BBFS and cip would get me back on track.

I don't blame you for trying, and we are all on there to find some fun, but just don't assume that some SA trollop will be a cure for your depression. To echo what I said in my last post, many dudes become depressed, and even suicidal, after dating / relationships ruin their life. Just saying you don't want to go out of the frying pan, into the fire.

I would just lower my expectations a good bit, with the sugar babies. Anyway I am trying to get back on there myself, and I will probably be disappointed as well, but the allure of young pussy is just too strong. However, the best I am hoping for is one or two really enjoyable sexual experiences. I do see how a true SD / SB relationship could work though, so I suppose we do both get points for trying.

**Peter Johnson** · 07-10-21 10:52

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

I have no concern whatsoever about LEO. They are not monitoring the site to check who fucks who. You don't have to worry about that unless you are committing a criminal offence such as talking to a girl underage or stalking someone.

Famous last words.

To be totally frank, to some degree you live in a deluded fantasy world, and I hope that reality never comes crashing through. The sad truth is that many women out there are batshit crazy. They can, and will, accuse you of anything. And many of them will even believe it happened.

And beyond that, these sugaring arrangements are a legal gray area, and certainly could be seen as a "criminal offense".

Anyway, I honestly wish you the best of luck, but just explaining why some of us are a bit more careful, with leaving an easy paper trail for a LE, etc.

**Paladin90** · 07-09-21 23:38

These young ladies seemed amicable enough to start. I got their number and started chatting them up off the site almost immediately. They wanted $500 each for only 90 minutes. CFS. I refused and their attitude changed drastically. Name calling and shitting on my military service. Good luck to anyone who wants to try talking to them.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1f14e...4-a6e5d698083c

**SoonerFan72** · 07-09-21 22:26

Originally Posted by HugeDell [View Original Post]

Man you guys are good, I was talking to her and just saw your post like in fraction of a second. I managed to register, finally with a regular good working card.

I could use some advice on how this thing works. They all seem fake to me. Is there a username search anywhere or I can only access reviewed people if I click on their link provided here?

My number one rule is ALWAYS get a verification pic. Ask them to take a very simple, yet specific photo. Have them hold up a pencil or write your name on a sheet of paper. You will quickly weed out the scammers. Use common sense. If it feels fake, it probably is. And never be afraid to walk away. Oh, and never fucking ever send them money for nothing. They got to play to get paid.

Good luck.

**HugeDell** · 07-09-21 19:44

Originally Posted by SoonerFan72 [View Original Post]

Complete fake. Chatted for a bit, said all the right things, but it was too easy. Moved to text, asked for the verification pic, and crickets. She immediately blocked me on SA. But since I'm a SA ninja, I knew to grab the link ahead of time, since I was pretty sure she was fake.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a946c...8-e18925fc3e08

Man you guys are good, I was talking to her and just saw your post like in fraction of a second. I managed to register, finally with a regular good working card.

I could use some advice on how this thing works. They all seem fake to me. Is there a username search anywhere or I can only access reviewed people if I click on their link provided here?

**TooHotForYou** · 07-09-21 19:21

Originally Posted by CarmelFight [View Original Post]

Don't have link cause I blocked her but she is complete mess. I thought everything was going well until I mentioned how we were going to meet due to her current situation she can't drive herself, won't get picked up, won't Uber like WTF? Anyways she completely went crazzzzy. The usual, name calling, how we SD's are embarrassing and dumb having to pay for the hobby. How she has 2 "other" SD a d wish I was one of them. LOL umm I guess? I did want her cause thought she was a cute little thing would have many fun nights LOL. Her profile says from Hull, GA but she lied she lives somewhere in Comer.

I know her. She'll keep texting you for years after you told her no to what she wanted. She did it to me.

**SoonerFan72** · 07-09-21 17:34

Complete fake. Chatted for a bit, said all the right things, but it was too easy. Moved to text, asked for the verification pic, and crickets. She immediately blocked me on SA. But since I'm a SA ninja, I knew to grab the link ahead of time, since I was pretty sure she was fake.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a946c...8-e18925fc3e08

**Jims2321** · 07-09-21 16:26

Originally Posted by CarmelFight [View Original Post]

Don't have link cause I blocked her but she is complete mess. I thought everything was going well until I mentioned how we were going to meet due to her current situation she can't drive herself, won't get picked up, won't Uber like WTF? Anyways she completely went crazzzzy. The usual, name calling, how we SD's are embarrassing and dumb having to pay for the hobby. How she has 2 "other" SD a d wish I was one of them. LOL umm I guess? I did want her cause thought she was a cute little thing would have many fun nights LOL. Her profile says from Hull, GA but she lied she lives somewhere in Comer.

Here ya go on that link.

https://www.seeking.com/member/93d28...a-590e5987dea0

But count your blessings, imagine the shit show that you might have had to deal with post coitus.

**CarmelFight** · 07-09-21 13:12

Don't have link cause I blocked her but she is complete mess. I thought everything was going well until I mentioned how we were going to meet due to her current situation she can't drive herself, won't get picked up, won't Uber like WTF? Anyways she completely went crazzzzy. The usual, name calling, how we SD's are embarrassing and dumb having to pay for the hobby. How she has 2 "other" SD a d wish I was one of them. LOL umm I guess? I did want her cause thought she was a cute little thing would have many fun nights LOL. Her profile says from Hull, GA but she lied she lives somewhere in Comer.

**Johnny Mapalo** · 07-09-21 11:26

Originally Posted by 2me4Looking2 [View Original Post]

My account was also suspended yesterday and I originally thought the payment was processed and then I was suspended, but after checking my balance I see the charge never went through. It's still frustrating, but at least I don't feel like I was robbed. I've been paying with a virtual Visa from giftcards.com for a couple of years now and never had an issue. Has anyone else had their account suspended after paying with a virtual gift card? Also, has anyone renewed in the last couple of weeks with a gift card and if so can you please tell me what brand and where it came from. The verbiage on the notice makes it seem like this is a timed suspension so I'm hoping it will be lifted, but I'll still be faced with having to pay.

To answer this question about the risk of using a real credit card. Take a look at some of the articles regarding the Ashley Madison hack several years ago. Lots of people had their identities released for the world to see and it cost people their jobs, friends, and marriages. If you aren't worried about blowback from the world knowing then go for it.

I just renewed last week (4th of July $60 special) with a Visa gift card and it went through flawlessly. I've been suspended from the site at least 5 times and get back on every single time. LOL. I currently have 2 unpaid and 1 paid profile on the site. LOL. Just check my back post on this thread to see what Visa gift card I use.

**GoneForGood97** · 07-09-21 10:53

Originally Posted by BuckHead71 [View Original Post]

I joined SA hoping to find an ongoing sexual relationship with some sort of connection. Not just pay, pump and go. Which seems to be what most are on there for. Both men and women. I have met about 8 so far. 5 I turned down, 2 I did the pump and go, and one that turned me down. That one in my opinion was the best as far as looks and personality. Or maybe we just want what we can't get. I have somewhat followed her social media accounts and found out she was helping a friend with a bar. I went into the bar but was wearing a hat and glasses, she did not recognize me at all and was super friendly. I plan on returning to the bar tomorrow night when she's working. I am wondering should I just continue to be regular bar patron, do you think after a while I could throw her an offer? Should I mention I met her before on SA, or maybe say I saw her profile on SA? I don't even know if her profile is still up on essay or not because she blocked me. Morgan242 or morganna242.

You should not meet her, you shouldn't track her down, and you sure as hell shouldn't go to this woman's place of work and try to get with her.

She told you no. That's the end of the conversation. You keep going down this path, you deserve the restraining order she ends up filing against you.

Move on before you do something stupid that you both regret.

**DrSummer** · 07-09-21 10:33

I have no way of proving this. But this is my theory. SA is walking on a tight rope to stay in business due to recent legislations regarding prostitution. While they don't want to take a big hit to their income, they want to have some evidence they suspend accounts that don't follow their rules. I use my own credit card (has been using the same card) and my real name is associated (I know the risk, but I am willing to take it). They may suspend people at random, but may check their payment history before suspending. They may not go hard on regular customers. I don't know when you use gift cards if you use the same name over and over or use different names. Regardless they may have a way to figure out the origin of the card. So, they would rather suspend an infrequent member than a routinely paying guy. The issue what I hear is if you get permanently banned (for whatever the reason) getting back is not easy. I have been on the site for about 4 years and renew monthly. Typically I have a week or two gap between but keep the membership going all the time. I message hundreds of girls a month. While I am being careful, I get so many messages about PPM, and explicit talk. I immediately take them offline, but I feel they may so soft on members like me. Once I got a warning about potential "commercial activity", I think due to the volume of the same message I have been sending out. But, didn't get suspended. Just my theory. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if they suspend me tomorrow. Just it could be the luck.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

Originally Posted by 2me4Looking2 [View Original Post]

My account was also suspended yesterday and I originally thought the payment was processed and then I was suspended, but after checking my balance I see the charge never went through. It's still frustrating, but at least I don't feel like I was robbed. I've been paying with a virtual Visa from giftcards.com for a couple of years now and never had an issue. Has anyone else had their account suspended after paying with a virtual gift card? Also, has anyone renewed in the last couple of weeks with a gift card and if so can you please tell me what brand and where it came from. The verbiage on the notice makes it seem like this is a timed suspension so I'm hoping it will be lifted, but I'll still be faced with having to pay.

To answer this question about the risk of using a real credit card. Take a look at some of the articles regarding the Ashley Madison hack several years ago. Lots of people had their identities released for the world to see and it cost people their jobs, friends, and marriages. If you aren't worried about blowback from the world knowing then go for it.

**Airmantroy** · 07-09-21 09:56

Originally Posted by BuckHead71 [View Original Post]

I joined SA hoping to find an ongoing sexual relationship with some sort of connection. Not just pay, pump and go. Which seems to be what most are on there for. Both men and women. I have met about 8 so far. 5 I turned down, 2 I did the pump and go, and one that turned me down. That one in my opinion was the best as far as looks and personality. Or maybe we just want what we can't get. I have somewhat followed her social media accounts and found out she was helping a friend with a bar. I went into the bar but was wearing a hat and glasses, she did not recognize me at all and was super friendly. I plan on returning to the bar tomorrow night when she's working. I am wondering should I just continue to be regular bar patron, do you think after a while I could throw her an offer? Should I mention I met her before on SA, or maybe say I saw her profile on SA? I don't even know if her profile is still up on essay or not because she blocked me. Morgan242 or morganna242.

I'd say she was smart to turn you down, her spidey senses were on point. You're just one phone call away from spending time behind bars, you seriously need to take a step back. I'm sure someone else here has seen her and has her contact info, it won't be long until they report your behavior to her, and she deals with you in whatever way she sees fit.