Massage Parlor Reports

**RogueOne1977** · 07-06-21 23:15

Originally Posted by SirChuck [View Original Post]

I see your new here. Welcome! I apologize in advance and hope no offense is taken by the following. This isn't a stock chat room and nor does anything really relate to 95% or plus of the girls in this hobby. Sure, people are feeling inflation on day to day living expenses but this isn't why 95% plus are requesting more $$ and providing less of a service. There are many factors. I understand your thinking as the monger is being more conservative with his luxury expenses cutting back allowances. In the majority of cases many Sugar Daddy Arrangements don't last that long. Some may last a few months less will last 6 months and even less a year. I have girls I see that I've seen multiple years but there is no allowance. I responded to a post regarding this topic a couple minutes ago.

Please see that post for my response. Glad to see new faces participating.

Regards.

Good post. Then what is your take on the inflated prices? Do you think it has to do with the free government hand outs as well? I guess I didn't realize that these girls get together in a sort of hive-mind group and discuss rates. If that's the case they can virtually set them as high as they want if they all do it collectively. The only way they would come down is if guys stopped paying what they are asking. But I don't see that happening any time soon.

**RogueOne1977** · 07-06-21 23:10

Originally Posted by SirChuck [View Original Post]

Part of the problem with these increased prices for less service is a multi faceted problem IMO.

#1. Many of the Millennial and Younger generations have been spoiled with instant gratification. Partially, because of the internet, Social Media, the stories they read about on social media. Friends talking about what they heard someone else gets. Prices, Services provided. Try looking up Female Escorts on Reddit. They have many chat rooms for the providers and only providers and a couple for hobbyist and provider where they can participate. 90 percent of these girls chatting believe in the he should just be happy I'm servicing him. Many of the girls attack any other girl or even the thought of another girl offering certain services at certain prices. Most on their despise anyone asking for bareback of any kind. I've even heard a couple girls attack mongers and providers that even mention bareback anything. I LMAO, when I heard one girl say he should be happy if I provide him with a bareback HJ! The knew norm is being branded everywhere we look not just the hobby. Shame people that assert determination that could or would raise the bar of expected performance. Many expect higher pay with way lesser quality of service. This isn't just in the hobby but almost everywhere in the working world.

#2. All these government hand outs many girls have been receiving doesn't teach these girls the value of a dollar. Our government literally paid unemployed more than they made when they are employed. Don't get me wrong many people did deserve financial assistance with the lock downs. However, many people that weren't working worked around the system so they could fully benefit. With some making more than they ever did to sit at home and do nothing. When a person pushes themselves to work harder for something they end up appreciating it much more. When they just get handed it they lose that sense of hunger and drive.

I think you hit the nail on the head. They have some cushion right now with the free handouts but once they are faced with reality again it will go back to normal. They may try to raise prices but if they do that it will be so ridiculous nobody will pay them. I'm thinking you are right. Its just a matter of time. Part of it is the social media high as well but that has been there for over 10 years or more and its never been this bad. I'm thinking it has to do with Covid. A lot of them probably saw they can scam guys online with sites like Only Fans and have to do minimal work. I'm serious hoping it goes back to normal because this is bleak and very frustrating. To have to pay 200 minimum for an average girl is beyond insane.

**SirChuck** · 07-06-21 21:14

Originally Posted by Xhusky [View Original Post]

In 2020, FED printed $ and performed QE within 6 months for the same amounts that they did in 2008 Financial Crisis. Fed didn't even have to printout physical copy of USD, but just go to their buyer's bid in mortgage and bond markets and place an order as it has unlimited buying power per applicable pertaining laws that allows them to use USD. As a response, you see stock price surges when economy is tanking. This also means that value of USD is depreciated, against which bitcoin / dodge coin is surging (not necessarily gold).

In other words, Capital income potential is greater than labor income. While the hour rate in most states is still early 10 $, you can make big money in market.

Those in high premium groups can afford the rate (personally, I made big early this year during GME saga and Bitcoin surge), and 500 $ is not too much money. I have college friends who used to work in big tech company (like AMZN, SQ, and AAPL) as software engineers, and they quit the jobs after making couple of millions in 2020 (they are around 30's). Of course, some lost a little money early this year, but it's drop in a bucket. Financial Freedom is, like anything else, important for, especially Americans, who always value in the freedom.

Funny that when GME was tanking early March, I see some providers (online) crying for help that their 2 weeks of hard-earned money is depreciated when GME stock price plunges from 300 to 50 $ that they think they can get out of the cycle. So it was cheap to hang out with them for temporary discount. For a record, I read that in early 2010's, providers were paid as bitcoin (like 30 bitcoin) per session when the price was 10-20 $. Now BTC is around 35000 $, let alone, early this year, it went up to 60000 $. I read one post from the ex-provider that that payment changed her life that she is now managing the real estate property and just enjoying life (At least financially).

I see your new here. Welcome! I apologize in advance and hope no offense is taken by the following. This isn't a stock chat room and nor does anything really relate to 95% or plus of the girls in this hobby. Sure, people are feeling inflation on day to day living expenses but this isn't why 95% plus are requesting more $$ and providing less of a service. There are many factors. I understand your thinking as the monger is being more conservative with his luxury expenses cutting back allowances. In the majority of cases many Sugar Daddy Arrangements don't last that long. Some may last a few months less will last 6 months and even less a year. I have girls I see that I've seen multiple years but there is no allowance. I responded to a post regarding this topic a couple minutes ago.

Please see that post for my response. Glad to see new faces participating.

Regards.

**SirChuck** · 07-06-21 20:55

Originally Posted by RogueOne1977 [View Original Post]

Good point. But what determines the market value and why the changes? You say you payed 120 for a banging Korean gal. Well. What has caused these drastic mark ups? There has to be a reason behind it.

Part of the problem with these increased prices for less service is a multi faceted problem IMO.

#1. Many of the Millennial and Younger generations have been spoiled with instant gratification. Partially, because of the internet, Social Media, the stories they read about on social media. Friends talking about what they heard someone else gets. Prices, Services provided. Try looking up Female Escorts on Reddit. They have many chat rooms for the providers and only providers and a couple for hobbyist and provider where they can participate. 90 percent of these girls chatting believe in the he should just be happy I'm servicing him. Many of the girls attack any other girl or even the thought of another girl offering certain services at certain prices. Most on their despise anyone asking for bareback of any kind. I've even heard a couple girls attack mongers and providers that even mention bareback anything. I LMAO, when I heard one girl say he should be happy if I provide him with a bareback HJ! The knew norm is being branded everywhere we look not just the hobby. Shame people that assert determination that could or would raise the bar of expected performance. Many expect higher pay with way lesser quality of service. This isn't just in the hobby but almost everywhere in the working world.

#2. All these government hand outs many girls have been receiving doesn't teach these girls the value of a dollar. Our government literally paid unemployed more than they made when they are employed. Don't get me wrong many people did deserve financial assistance with the lock downs. However, many people that weren't working worked around the system so they could fully benefit. With some making more than they ever did to sit at home and do nothing. When a person pushes themselves to work harder for something they end up appreciating it much more. When they just get handed it they lose that sense of hunger and drive.

Before the Fosta act these girls would have serious competition. So, either they would adapt to the environment or they would have to move on as they weren't able to support themselves. That meant a real job which is something that scares the shit out of many providers. I've heard so many girls say there was no way they could take a normal job by the hour. They have been too used to making 1-2 days pay for around an hour of service. Imagine them actually paying taxes on money they earned, I'm sure a very small percentage do pay taxes on providing but I'm willing to go out on a limb and say the heavy majority don't. So, that hour service in most cases they probably actually worked 20-30 minutes at best? Pre covid meant they wouldn't have money for rent, car, food, certain dependancies and etc. That's how they survived! So, now in the Covid / Post Covid world everything is free for many. Government funding, laws against evictions which mentally gives this person no motivation to push themselves to seek employment Especially, providing good service in this hobby. This has become the Norm for many especially girls in the hobby!

Once the government handouts and ban on evictions expire then we will see some changes. I'm sure many will try and get even more money than their inflated current inflated prices. However, once they don't have the freebies reality will start setting in. Some will learn faster than others but eventually they will have to come to terms with the situation and either run with it or move on and find a real 9-5 job.

At least this is my take on things.

**QueNine** · 07-06-21 20:40

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**DScott** · 07-06-21 19:23

Originally Posted by Mikey6969 [View Original Post]

Does anyone have any experience with this Lindsay lately?

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...995/6362339274

Her reviews on EB are all really good, and she looks awesome.

Her reviews are great on EB because if you post a bad one, which I did, she gets it deleted and kicked off EB. So there's that. First time I set up a meeting I was ghosted in the parking lot and she never responded again. Since she is close to me the little head convinced me to try again in a few months with a different number. Set it up, saw her, nice nuru, BBBJ, cim. She is of course heavier than she looks in the pics but she's cute and was nice. Texted her again a couple weeks later, she was friendly, set up an appointment, then when I got there she ghosted me and blocked me with no explanation. She is notorious for doing that. So if you have time for her games you might have fun.

**Mikey6969** · 07-06-21 17:17

Does anyone have any experience with this Lindsay lately?

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...995/6362339274

Her reviews on EB are all really good, and she looks awesome.

**RogueOne1977** · 07-06-21 15:15

Originally Posted by Jfouquet [View Original Post]

I'm curious as well. Her old reviews aren't the greatest.

I saw her a few years back and was not a great time. She was on her phone constantly and she seemed like she was hopped up on something and the whole thing was very rushed. Didn't even let me finish which is terrible service in this industry. I mean that should be their goal for the whole thing. I don't know if she is better now but that is my experience with her before Covid. Around 2 years ago.

**Xhusky** · 07-06-21 12:20

Originally Posted by RogueOne1977 [View Original Post]

Good point. But what determines the market value and why the changes? You say you payed 120 for a banging Korean gal. Well. What has caused these drastic mark ups? There has to be a reason behind it.

In 2020, FED printed $ and performed QE within 6 months for the same amounts that they did in 2008 Financial Crisis. Fed didn't even have to printout physical copy of USD, but just go to their buyer's bid in mortgage and bond markets and place an order as it has unlimited buying power per applicable pertaining laws that allows them to use USD. As a response, you see stock price surges when economy is tanking. This also means that value of USD is depreciated, against which bitcoin / dodge coin is surging (not necessarily gold).

In other words, Capital income potential is greater than labor income. While the hour rate in most states is still early 10 $, you can make big money in market.

Those in high premium groups can afford the rate (personally, I made big early this year during GME saga and Bitcoin surge), and 500 $ is not too much money. I have college friends who used to work in big tech company (like AMZN, SQ, and AAPL) as software engineers, and they quit the jobs after making couple of millions in 2020 (they are around 30's). Of course, some lost a little money early this year, but it's drop in a bucket. Financial Freedom is, like anything else, important for, especially Americans, who always value in the freedom.

Funny that when GME was tanking early March, I see some providers (online) crying for help that their 2 weeks of hard-earned money is depreciated when GME stock price plunges from 300 to 50 $ that they think they can get out of the cycle. So it was cheap to hang out with them for temporary discount. For a record, I read that in early 2010's, providers were paid as bitcoin (like 30 bitcoin) per session when the price was 10-20 $. Now BTC is around 35000 $, let alone, early this year, it went up to 60000 $. I read one post from the ex-provider that that payment changed her life that she is now managing the real estate property and just enjoying life (At least financially).

So my suggestion if you are still looking for reasonable price is that start to look when stock price is crashing. Their sugar daddies are stressed out when market is crashing, and therefore, the room for negotitation is higher than current financial outlook. However, I just don't think stock price will crash anytime soon (maybe correction with 10-20% plunge, but not like 30-40% crash as long as FED is supporting the financial market. Don't fight with Fed is one of the most important message in the market.

**Jfouquet** · 07-06-21 08:27

Originally Posted by LuvMchn [View Original Post]

Haven't seen any good reports in the last year. Has anyone had a good time with her?

I'm curious as well. Her old reviews aren't the greatest.

**RogueOne1977** · 07-06-21 05:20

Originally Posted by DeadDead22 [View Original Post]

I feel like $200 is pretty much standard for these places now. I know guys are looking for a good deal but your service was probably commensurate with what she was paid. I can remember when I mongered out in LA, I used to pay a young, 20-something Korean girl with banging body $120 total! Those days are gone. $200 for an escort will rely get you a full set of teeth nowadays. I'm just saying that you always have to remember that this is still a service-based industry and if she's being paid below what she feels her market value is, you will get that kind of service. Kinda like when Soulard Susan has to give me a freebie because ghosts me, it never includes ALL services usually rendered when I pay. Just bear in mind that the market trends are inflationary and considering what else is out there, $200 is a pretty good deal. But I do know that these chicks can sometimes either have off days or not good at faking that they enjoy what they're doing. That's a possibility too. Even Blue at Osaka sucked and fucked my brains out for $180 has some negative reports about her. Sometimes you get lucky, right? Not excusing her bad performance, but just explaining why she may have been a little lackluster.

Good point. But what determines the market value and why the changes? You say you payed 120 for a banging Korean gal. Well. What has caused these drastic mark ups? There has to be a reason behind it.

**Terry2525** · 07-05-21 22:43

I noticed the other day on 15x in Fairview heights a new sign that just says massage. It is next to lam lua foot spa. Any reports?

Thanks.

Terry2525.

**LuvMchn** · 07-05-21 19:14

Haven't seen any good reports in the last year. Has anyone had a good time with her?

**DeadDead22** · 07-05-21 14:34

Originally Posted by Zorney99 [View Original Post]

Stopped in at Fuji yesterday. I typically visit Osaka but they had 2 or 3 cars in lot and Fuji looked empty. Went in and asked for lineup. Older lady she bring me prettiest girl. I said I want to see a lineup. A 40 something lady came out and said I take you. I said I want to see all available. Finally ended up choosing Lee out if group of 3. We go in room and I gave her $60 for an hour expecting to negotiate extras when she returned. She said 1 hour minimum $200. I said what? I said I'd give another $100 for tip and she said $200 minimum. I said no go and she relented. Said bring $200 next time. Massage was terrible with no tease. After 10 minutes told me to flip and started a CBJ. Very lackluster. After a couple minutes told me to get on top. Not enjoyable at all. A lot of fake moaning. Had her finish me with a HJ. Ugh. Will not be back.

I feel like $200 is pretty much standard for these places now. I know guys are looking for a good deal but your service was probably commensurate with what she was paid. I can remember when I mongered out in LA, I used to pay a young, 20-something Korean girl with banging body $120 total! Those days are gone. $200 for an escort will rely get you a full set of teeth nowadays. I'm just saying that you always have to remember that this is still a service-based industry and if she's being paid below what she feels her market value is, you will get that kind of service. Kinda like when Soulard Susan has to give me a freebie because ghosts me, it never includes ALL services usually rendered when I pay. Just bear in mind that the market trends are inflationary and considering what else is out there, $200 is a pretty good deal. But I do know that these chicks can sometimes either have off days or not good at faking that they enjoy what they're doing. That's a possibility too. Even Blue at Osaka sucked and fucked my brains out for $180 has some negative reports about her. Sometimes you get lucky, right? Not excusing her bad performance, but just explaining why she may have been a little lackluster.