Seeking Arrangements

[SwimSays]

My problem last time too was I'd work on something, the texting would go well. Then the broad would just ghost me. Happened more often than usual, which was vexxing.

Definitely happens a lot on SA. They either get cold feet, weren't really into you or the idea of arrangements all together, or they are just getting flooded with messages and offers and the "grass is always greener on the other side" mentality kicks in.

Others are just flat out time wasters who enjoy getting all the attention and have no plans of meeting up in the first place.

I find this happens more with people new to the site / new to arrangements in general.

If I do engage with someone new on the site and / or arrangements, I try to feel them out if they have done this before or are just checking it out. I'll move off site and try to lock in plans with 24 to 48 hours and then keep the convo flowing right up until we have plans to make them feel as comfortable as possible.

This helps weed out the game players and girls with cold feet.

Keep in mind too. They are getting blown off on their end just as much, if not more, so it's a cat and mouse chase.

[Bran001]

I have found luck in being honest, upfront and respectful.

This is a huge part of it. Communicating with an escort, well, it's easy. Communicating with a 20-something college or grad student on SA, who may or may not have done this before, is entirely different. Men get it wrong all the time. It's a fun discussion I often have at a first coffee date. The girl I met earlier this week is still pretty new to SA but she was laughing about it. That was a good sign; many of the girls get totally disgusted and delete the profile after a few days of it.

Even men who THINK they know what these girls want to hear get it entirely wrong.

[Hobbyist420]

You may need a little more panache than when you are calling an escort but if I can get through a 60 minute chat & text session to get on the same page then I think anyone could.

My problem last time too was I'd work on something, the texting would go well. Then the broad would just ghost me. Happened more often than usual, which was vexxing.

[Mattis1775]

I tried it last night for a few hours, I limited the zone to 25-miles from Boston. Not going to travel further than that. Sent several messages and we'll see if any of them responds back. I may go towards 50-miles if I get no hits. But, I'll report back. Thanks for everyone's input.

My experience of SA (5 months) compared to escorts in Boston (8 years). My preference is to find SB to repeat with versus one and done. I'm currently seeing multiple SB's 1-3 times a month. I'm single, decent looking, dad bod and can host half the time.

- Effort. SA is a ton of work, probably need to chat with 10-15 girls to find a real keeper, girl may then chose to not go through with it after meeting you, Escort. Some effort but not too bad, easy with agency, they will see almost anybody (ex certain ethnicities).

- Scheduling. SA girls have normal lives so need to work with their schedules and likely not be available on short notice, Escorts it's their job and you can call for last minute appt.

- First in line. SA most probably only saw you that day, Escorts probably saw multiple guys that day before you. Don't you hate doing DATY and you get that taste of latex 🤮.

- Payment. SA my keepers have never asked for $ up front or ever opened the envelope before they left, Escorts usually want to see up front.

- Profile Pictures. SA usually real and good quality, Escort sites like LC is a crap shoot, Brazilian / Asians almost always fake.

- Scam. SA less likely to get scammed assuming you don't pay in advance, Escorts if using LC always a chance of being scammed.

- Meeting length. SA my meets typically last 2-5 hours, usually as many rounds / positions as I want before I tap out. Relaxed and no pressured to finish before a certain time, Escorts. Tick tock, I hate being under pressure to finish and then the girl gets pissy if you take to long.

[JDogInMA]

Look like she live in Algonquin. If that's where she live. $100 should be maxed.

Chatted a bit with her. Hit me up for gift before meeting, told her I really only had the time and means for PPM. That didn't seem to fly. I moved on.

[ManDownUnder]

This SA thing hasn't caught up with me and quite frankly, it sounds quite expensive. I've read good and bad reviews on people using this service. I take that the girls find you or you find them based on the criteria? And, for some of you, they are charging Eros or Tyrst rates, which makes no sense if these girls are trying to find or collect a small clientele list.

How many of you actually recommend this as opposed to the traditional Eros, LC and others?

My experience of SA (5 months) compared to escorts in Boston (8 years). My preference is to find SB to repeat with versus one and done. I'm currently seeing multiple SB's 1-3 times a month. I'm single, decent looking, dad bod and can host half the time.

- Effort. SA is a ton of work, probably need to chat with 10-15 girls to find a real keeper, girl may then chose to not go through with it after meeting you, Escort. Some effort but not too bad, easy with agency, they will see almost anybody (ex certain ethnicities).

- Scheduling. SA girls have normal lives so need to work with their schedules and likely not be available on short notice, Escorts it's their job and you can call for last minute appt.

- First in line. SA most probably only saw you that day, Escorts probably saw multiple guys that day before you. Don't you hate doing DATY and you get that taste of latex 🤮.

- Payment. SA my keepers have never asked for $ up front or ever opened the envelope before they left, Escorts usually want to see up front.

- Profile Pictures. SA usually real and good quality, Escort sites like LC is a crap shoot, Brazilian / Asians almost always fake.

- Scam. SA less likely to get scammed assuming you don't pay in advance, Escorts if using LC always a chance of being scammed.

- Meeting length. SA my meets typically last 2-5 hours, usually as many rounds / positions as I want before I tap out. Relaxed and no pressured to finish before a certain time, Escorts. Tick tock, I hate being under pressure to finish and then the girl gets pissy if you take to long.

- "Fun" - SA. My repeat SBs are full GFE. Most include DFK, BBBJ, BBFS, Greek, CIM, DATY (multi digits), use toys, etc, Escorts are hard to find GFE and likely up sell on those items I just mentioned if available.

- Cost. The range for my current 6 SB is $150-$300 (230 average), for multiple hour GFE outcall meets. It's a hands down bargain. Compared to say BTT, 220 gets you a half hour. Usually some good GFE but CFS. I ignore any SA girl that starts $500. I shoot for GND average looking (not "hot" which helps keep the price down. Most will negotiate. Escorts are mostly well over $300 hr, but you can probably find a QV for 100/150 if you want a quick nut. Most will not negotiate.

- Incall. SA most can't host, but do drive and come to my place. A couple I have picked up when needed, Escorts mostly host or up charge for outcall.

So if you want to put in the effort with SA, have realistic expectations, you can find some real gems at a reasonable price. If you don't have the time, patience or any game I don't think you'll be happy.

[Trailman44]

You're really talking apples vs. Oranges if you're NOT looking for the same pro's you find on Eros etc.

I can sleep with a 20 yr old college girl who needs a little help with rent money for the summer. If I want to I can take her to lunch on Newbury St. Or not. Amazing IMHO.

I agree with Bran. I took the plunge after getting tired of being disappointed with the scene. I just signed up for a month to see what this is all about. In a few days of activity I found a young college age lady who I set up a date with. I am meeting her soon. She's legitimately a ten and for less than what the average rate is on those sites we are going to spend the better part of an afternoon together. No rush. She gave me access to her social media, etc. To verify she is real.

I personally have gotten a lot more activity on that Seeking than I ever did reaching out to ads. If this experience is a quarter of what my last few visits have been like I will be miles ahead.

Edit: I haven't read this whole SA forum and am not making any assumptions about the discussions on here. I just jumped into the site and started browsing profiles. I have found luck in being honest, upfront and respectful. I really am looking for a long term thing arrangement (once or twice a month) if it works out and let them know that. You may need a little more panache than when you are calling an escort but if I can get through a 60 minute chat & text session to get on the same page then I think anyone could.

[Bran001]

This SA thing hasn't caught up with me and quite frankly, it sounds quite expensive. I've read good and bad reviews on people using this service. I take that the girls find you or you find them based on the criteria? And, for some of you, they are charging Eros or Tyrst rates, which makes no sense if these girls are trying to find or collect a small clientele list.

How many of you actually recommend this as opposed to the traditional Eros, LC and others?

You're really talking apples vs. Oranges if you're NOT looking for the same pro's you find on Eros etc.

I can sleep with a 20 yr old college girl who needs a little help with rent money for the summer. If I want to I can take her to lunch on Newbury St. Or not. Amazing IMHO.

[Hobbyist420]

This one has been reviewed before and I'm pretty sure she has multiple accounts. Anyway, she's probably mentally insane. She has messaged me like 20 times, the same message over and over even after I told her I'm not interested. Consider yourselves warned.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0c946...b-68c326797ed7

She has been on the site for years under numerous accounts; I think she even advertised on BP at some point using those pics LOL. I've never jump in, and based off the reviews, I am glad I didn't.

Also, as a pro-tip to you SA mongers: when you encounter annoying members like this, just block them. Don't engage or respond in case they report your profile because SA will ban people for the oddest reasons and you'll have no recourse to get your money back.

[Hobbyist420]

This SA thing hasn't caught up with me and quite frankly, it sounds quite expensive. I've read good and bad reviews on people using this service. I take that the girls find you or you find them based on the criteria? And, for some of you, they are charging Eros or Tyrst rates, which makes no sense if these girls are trying to find or collect a small clientele list.

How many of you actually recommend this as opposed to the traditional Eros, LC and others?

It used to be better; the site's rules have gotten worse on both ends, esp the fact they just don't enforce the "ask for online payment = banned" rules like they used to (but they'll gladly edit messages and profiles) and since COVID that shit has gotten worse and finding good reliable booty has become more harder (since you have to vet more) and expensive. Also I am hearing more bad reports from desperate girls, and that's probably because those girls know the amount of money they can scam / rob from a guy who paid on SA is going to be much more than a guy from LC (as well as safer because you're vetted via the app as supposed to just making an appointment with some rando).

Sadly however, there are not many sites where you can find a genuine UTR and SA is one of them, especially now with CL / Yahoo / BP gone. Its a shame there are not any true avenues to find UTR that don't envolve paying shit anymore (and Tinder doesn't count because that's a scam app too IMO).

When I first joined in 2017, I even got freebies from the first 2 women I met, and I was getting BBFS quality OT from all age ranges for 150-200. Now it seems the lowest rate is 400, if you are lucky. And that's usually south and west of the city. I live in the city limits, and I find there are more venmo askers and 500+ min girls that I encounter, where all the 300 and under gems are in the burbs, so YMMV. Timing is important too; guys on here who have had success either stuck with the plan of volume or found that right gem at the right time. Now because of the current climate, just less of them now. Good luck.

[Mattis1775]

I have been off and on for about 6 years. There are all kinds of women on there and all kinds of situations you can get into. The site requires a lot of effort in my opinion, just like a regular dating app. You search based on criteria and wait for responses. I prefer SA over the traditional sites like Eros etc. I find the escort sites mostly full of drug addicts and very hi volume women which I want to avoid.

You will find all kinds of women on SA including pros. The pros are easy to spot tho (you will know right away). I've had a few free encounters as well.

I can be expensive and it can also be cheap. Do not bother unless you are willing to pay the membership fee and put in the effort.

Good note, definitely try it for 30-days and see where it goes. Learned from Adult Friend Finder and other sites, where I paid for a month and didn't get anything. I'll report back.

[OkWhatever]

I have been off and on for about 6 years. There are all kinds of women on there and all kinds of situations you can get into. The site requires a lot of effort in my opinion, just like a regular dating app. You search based on criteria and wait for responses. I prefer SA over the traditional sites like Eros etc. I find the escort sites mostly full of drug addicts and very hi volume women which I want to avoid.

You will find all kinds of women on SA including pros. The pros are easy to spot tho (you will know right away). I've had a few free encounters as well.

I can be expensive and it can also be cheap. Do not bother unless you are willing to pay the membership fee and put in the effort.

This SA thing hasn't caught up with me and quite frankly, it sounds quite expensive. I've read good and bad reviews on people using this service. I take that the girls find you or you find them based on the criteria? And, for some of you, they are charging Eros or Tyrst rates, which makes no sense if these girls are trying to find or collect a small clientele list.

How many of you actually recommend this as opposed to the traditional Eros, LC and others?

[Mattis1775]

This SA thing hasn't caught up with me and quite frankly, it sounds quite expensive. I've read good and bad reviews on people using this service. I take that the girls find you or you find them based on the criteria? And, for some of you, they are charging Eros or Tyrst rates, which makes no sense if these girls are trying to find or collect a small clientele list.

How many of you actually recommend this as opposed to the traditional Eros, LC and others?

[Ryry07]

This one has been reviewed before and I'm pretty sure she has multiple accounts. Anyway, she's probably mentally insane. She has messaged me like 20 times, the same message over and over even after I told her I'm not interested. Consider yourselves warned.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0c946...b-68c326797ed7

Yeah this girl is fucking awful. Long story short, she's way fatter in person, dumb as a rock, a disgusting and messy eater, and way too expensive for the level of service she is providing. The single worst experience I've ever had. Avoid her like the plague.

[OkWhatever]

This is very true. They lie about their age along with everything else.

My rule of thumb is that any age above 25 is likely fudged. Any age above 30 is absolutely fudged. It's no different than regular dating apps where you have to add many years on the profile age to get close to the truth. That girl at 37 is most likely 45 or even 50 yo. No thanks. If I want to bang desperate middle-aged mommies I can do that for free anywhere in the world. Every woman older than 35 thinks she looks good for her age and can pass for much younger. Sure honey, you and all the broads all look better than average. LOL.