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[TheSpius19]

So I was having a convo with this girl (or scammer?) on SA about why money upfront? She said all her SD were willing to give upfront. I told her she's lucky and to ask her SD how many were scammed. Her response was all of them and what she was told by SDnwas they just get a bad batch and it was chump change on what they lost. So, pretty much scammers are rampant on SA because the whale SDs don't care and it's just a number game to them till they hit jackpot.

I don't ever give ANYTHING upfront. EVER.

And I've only been scammed once. And it was alllll my fault. Girl was "coming over" and needed some gas money. Asked for 40. I Venmoed it to her. I was REALLY drunk and it was 3 am. (all bad moves) She kept telling me she was "almost there". Then she hit me up for another $40 for "wine and condoms. ".

I refused and she ghosted me.

So, yay. Congrats on the $40. To me that was a kind reminder that you NEVER SA / Escort while drunk.

[CreamFire]

So I was having a convo with this girl (or scammer?) on SA about why money upfront? She said all her SD were willing to give upfront. I told her she's lucky and to ask her SD how many were scammed. Her response was all of them and what she was told by SDnwas they just get a bad batch and it was chump change on what they lost. So, pretty much scammers are rampant on SA because the whale SDs don't care and it's just a number game to them till they hit jackpot.

[Alkalinedio]

Good one and you smelled her BS right off the bat and still smashed it.

I agree they will try and get away with it when they can. I looked at it like sure, I was out a little gas money but I got a free make out session and felt her ass up for free LOL. Fxxx her.

She emailed me when I got home saying now you know my number and where I live when you grow some balls you can come back! I replied I still won't give you any money upfront, I do have balls that's why I said this is over and dropped your ass off I replied. I told her you're not getting one over one me. On top of that, she's not even hot, cute at best but I've had way better.

Damn scammers, fxxx them!

Stay safe guys.

AD.

And got the hell out of there with your money. Guys don't realize that not getting laid on that particular moment is not the worst thing. I'll tell you a story of what happened to me back in 2004; when I was still in my 30's.

I met this girl on craigs. I drove up to ft Lauderdale from Miami to see her. She texts me and directs me to a street corner in a residential neighborhood. Probably tantamount to what Inglewood was in the 80's. I'm like, ok. So, I turn the corner and she is standing there, right next to a stop sign. It is pitch black outside. She leans up against my car and asks for the money after I tell her to get in. She replies. "first give me the money, and then I will get in. ' strike one.

I ask her where we're going, she says she will meet me there after I pay her. Some shady story of how she can't be seen getting out of the same car with an older man (she was 19, maybe 20). Strike 2. I told her, 'wow, you had me drive 30 miles north just to try and scam me. ' she looked and me, shrugged and got in. We drove to the house she was staying at. I parked and went inside, and there was no more mention of money. I ended up fucking her in the backyard on the tile barbecue grill..

[Domino727]

Sucks that happened to you, but damn.

Just me personally, I would never ever, meet a girl in a room that already spells pro (to me, that's just me).

I had a interesting experience last week met a girl on SA and late night texting first day of emails I said let's meet, she says when I said now! It was 1130 pm, she says ok I'm down.

24 yr old latina, I drive to near Pasadena, she lives with her BF and has a 2nd boyfriend (whatever!) no money discussed at all, just horny talk. I get there, scoop her up, she's cute but a little softer than her pics, little flab. I spotted some dark streets on way to hers and we double backed to a darkkkkkk street with trees it was almost black as night. I put up my sun shades on all 4 windows the rest are tinted. Boom I start to make out with her and feel her up, then she kills it. She said, where's the money? I said I got some, I'll give you after, she says no, that's now how this works (LMFAO, STFU) I said to you maybe? Who's to say I hand it over and you bolt out of my car. Long story short this went on for maybe 2 mins, told her I'm not cheap and I've met a few girls and you're the first one demanding money up front. I showed it to her, then back in my pocket and we were at a stalemate. By this time, my boner was done and I could feel it was going to go south. So, I said you know what? Let's just call it and I'll drop you off, I'm not budging neither are you, no hard feelings. That was it, dropped her off and split. My gut was saying if she wasn't going to run, then maybe something else like covered everything, or she can't fxxx for this or that reason. So, close call of what I think was a semi scam I just said we're done here. Clearly she was a little pro too.

Sharing my semi scam here too, happens to us all but fxxx her she ain't getting my cash up front.

Stay safe.

AD.

And got the hell out of there with your money. Guys don't realize that not getting laid on that particular moment is not the worst thing. I'll tell you a story of what happened to me back in 2004; when I was still in my 30's.

I met this girl on craigs. I drove up to ft Lauderdale from Miami to see her. She texts me and directs me to a street corner in a residential neighborhood. Probably tantamount to what Inglewood was in the 80's. I'm like, ok. So, I turn the corner and she is standing there, right next to a stop sign. It is pitch black outside. She leans up against my car and asks for the money after I tell her to get in. She replies. "first give me the money, and then I will get in. ' strike one.

I ask her where we're going, she says she will meet me there after I pay her. Some shady story of how she can't be seen getting out of the same car with an older man (she was 19, maybe 20). Strike 2. I told her, 'wow, you had me drive 30 miles north just to try and scam me. ' she looked and me, shrugged and got in. We drove to the house she was staying at. I parked and went inside, and there was no more mention of money. I ended up fucking her in the backyard on the tile barbecue grill.

We ended up hooking up 3 or 4 more times. But she ended up confiding in me and told me that she was, in fact, going to scam me that very first night. In fact, she told me she had already done it to three other guys before me. So, I was the 4th. Which meant she made $300 for putting in no work.

They learn early, these scammers, is what I'm trying to say. Once they get a taste for success and realize there are so many SIMPS out there to pray on, they will never stop. You are simply one of many marks. They will never abandon the hustle because to them it is a game. excitement, The exact same thing we feel hunting down hookers on the Fig or any other track. The thrill of the chase.

The guy that got scammed twice in a motel room, by the same girl, no doubt, deserves neither condolences or banal inspirational quotes like "it's ok, you'll get 'em next time." he simply is not built for the game because he lacks situational awareness and common sense. He should just get married and deal with one slice of pie for the rest of his life.

I sound like a harsh motherfucker, but I always trust my instincts. Sure I've had bad service after paying, that is part of the game. But I've never been truly ripped off like this guy.

[JackMiles]

I stopped reading at this sentence. You paid in advance. Nothing more needs to be said. Handle them like SB's and walk if they dont like it. Red flag. Never pay in advance and never let them choose the location.

This is the most practical and useful advice I've heard so far. Listen to HWG. He knows.

[HollywoodGuy]

This is the biggest L of all time. I really cannot stres that enough but I will tell the story so that it may help some of you.

Met her at a hotel. She comes to get me. She's not quite as attractive as her pics but good enough. We go to her room and her friend is there (who is WAY hotter). They are very interested in getting the sugar before we get down to business but they seem cool. Soon as I send the sugar via one of the various apps, the hot friend gets on the phone pretending to be freaked out because her bf / pimp is mad.

I stopped reading at this sentence. You paid in advance. Nothing more needs to be said. Handle them like SB's and walk if they dont like it. Red flag. Never pay in advance and never let them choose the location.

[HollywoodGuy]

Be careful, I did that for 6 months before I got banned. And I was a premium paying member.

In 10 years I have never been banned. And I have definitely talked some shit. I am convinced that the girls that report are the SB wannabees. The girls that are truly DTF don't get that riled up by low offers or the suggestion of any sex that may not be on the menu. Its the I will never have sex for money girls, the girls that really shouldn't be on there in the first place, the ones looking for that unicorn daddy that's just looking for a modern day geisha girl. Just my 2 cents.

[Alkalinedio]

Sucks that happened to you, but damn.

Just me personally, I would never ever, meet a girl in a room that already spells pro (to me, that's just me).

I had a interesting experience last week met a girl on SA and late night texting first day of emails I said let's meet, she says when I said now! It was 1130 pm, she says ok I'm down.

24 yr old latina, I drive to near Pasadena, she lives with her BF and has a 2nd boyfriend (whatever!) no money discussed at all, just horny talk. I get there, scoop her up, she's cute but a little softer than her pics, little flab. I spotted some dark streets on way to hers and we double backed to a darkkkkkk street with trees it was almost black as night. I put up my sun shades on all 4 windows the rest are tinted. Boom I start to make out with her and feel her up, then she kills it. She said, where's the money? I said I got some, I'll give you after, she says no, that's now how this works (LMFAO, STFU) I said to you maybe? Who's to say I hand it over and you bolt out of my car. Long story short this went on for maybe 2 mins, told her I'm not cheap and I've met a few girls and you're the first one demanding money up front. I showed it to her, then back in my pocket and we were at a stalemate. By this time, my boner was done and I could feel it was going to go south. So, I said you know what? Let's just call it and I'll drop you off, I'm not budging neither are you, no hard feelings. That was it, dropped her off and split. My gut was saying if she wasn't going to run, then maybe something else like covered everything, or she can't fxxx for this or that reason. So, close call of what I think was a semi scam I just said we're done here. Clearly she was a little pro too.

Sharing my semi scam here too, happens to us all but fxxx her she ain't getting my cash up front.

Stay safe.

AD.

I simply cannot believe even half of this. I curse my very existence because I got scammed once by a girl in fucken spokane. She took my money in the front yard and actually ran away. This was years ago an I outran her and I successfully got her to allow me in her room. She disappeared inside to get some stuff. So I stole her license and other personal stuff and left. She got me for 140 and I never did that type of situation again. But come on man. Going to a motel for an SA girl? Cash apping them in the room twice. Jesus fuck.

[Domino727]

#1 - to me, all pussy is NOT created equally.

#2 - I don't know about you, but it lasts a whole hell of a lot longer than 20 minutes. My last 1 K date lasted about 5 hours & included 3 glorious rounds of BBFS with a ridiculous 5'11" model from Belgium.

Just sayin'.

And that's what I'm saying.

[TheSpius19]

everyone always seems to have a hissy-fit when another guy pays an amount they wouldn't. I look at it like bbfs. Your dick, your business. Your money, your business.

I might propose that $40-60 is the range for a happy ending at amps, but i still don't get upset if they want to pay $200 because it's none of my business.

For one guy, spending $200 might have the same fiscal impact as another spending $20.

this. This. This.

[TheSpius19]

Being the moderator I just thought I would add my 2 cents. At 1k per visit I guess we can all agree that we could rent any girl, or at least 97% of what's out there for that price. But if you remember, Heidi's girls started at 2k per meet up. And an associate of mine that used to own one of the larger escort platforms told me that 5k - 20k charges were not unusual.

While I originally started this thread to share tips and tricks on how to increase game (i.e. - get the most bang for your buck), there have never been any restrictions as to the type of posts that can be shared (with the exception of underage girls, direct contact info like phone #'s and email addresses, or anything the site admin may deem to be in violation of their terms of service). And pictures are always welcome.

Everyone has a type of girl and a methodology for acquiring them that meets their comfort zone. And that will vary as much as the girls available and the guys that appreciate them. Inherently there really is no right or wrong way to go about this as long as your wallet, your health and your legal standing are not being compromised in any way that would be considered detrimental to your general well being.

For the new guys, just remember, you don't have to be rich to play in this game. You just need some disposable income, whatever that may be, to partake. This thread is just a buffet table of advice. Pick up what's palatable / doable and leave the rest. The opinions shared here do not necessarily reflect those of the moderator, but respectfully, all are welcome.

That's really all I'm sayin'.

Different mongers seek different things.

When I'm looking for lower end /300-ish range, I usually just save the headache and head to a KGirl service since it's guaranteed and quality.

But I, PERSONALLY, just like to use SA to find the higher-end models who don't know any better.

And when I'm REALLY feeling salty I go to my go-tos for Porn Stars and crack in between 1. 5 and 3 k per.

[TheSpius19]

Her name is Lori and I was seeing her for 1 year before she moved to Miami when Covid struck. We still play whenever she comes back to LA, about twice a year. She is Russian / American. And yes, that is her real, bonefide ass in the pic.

I used to pay her $200 for an hour of complete fun, including anal. She is 5 ft1 and weighs 100 lb. 24 years old. Really really sweet. A complete, fit workout warrior. Bisexual who loves to eat pussy. That is her girlfriend in Miami at the moment. God, what I would give to be in the middle of that. A complete nympho. Needs sex several times a day.

We once fucked for 5 straight hours. Suffice to say I am an old fart at 53, and the next day my body was killing me at work. It got to the point where she began to spend the night, so I bumped it up to $300. She never asked for more money. We saw each other once a week. We still keep in touch.

This is her. Living proof that you don't need to spend 1 k. I believe that is what Hollywood guy always preaches. I admit, she was the proverbial unicorn. Extremely difficult, but not Impossible to replace.

She's very cute. No doubt. And at 200/300 you certainly HAVE found a unicorn. No denying that.

But she's not what I'm talking about, my man.

[TheSpius19]

Had money*, before you spent 1 k on a Famous Star sold to you as a filet mignon. There's a difference between being broke and cheap and being frugal and savvy my friend.

I mean. You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, but the simple truth is that you and I are fishing in different waters for different prizes, my friend.

[TheSpius19]

No thanks. I'll stick to my utr hoes that charge $100-$150. Pussy is pussy, after all. I can't conceive of the notion of blowing 5 benjis for something that lasts 20 minutes. That's like 5 dates with Tina from the Valley.

#1 - to me, all pussy is NOT created equally.

#2 - I don't know about you, but it lasts a whole hell of a lot longer than 20 minutes. My last 1 K date lasted about 5 hours & included 3 glorious rounds of BBFS with a ridiculous 5'11" model from Belgium.

Just sayin'.

[Domino727]

I deserve all of that. Like I said, it was ll my fault.

In the second no-tell motel you met a girl, who showed you a picture of a girl, who happened to be the girl that scammed you the first time, and you proceeded to not only.

Entertain the idea of seeing them both, but you cash apped her some money, knowing that they were definitely working in tandem and would do the same thing again.

Instead of just saying, "I'm out of here. " Then drive to the nearest pay phone and place a fake gun call to get them Swatted.

Instead you paid up like Uncle Fester.

Do us all a favor. Get the fuck off this board. Your stupidity might be contagious to some.