Massage Parlor Reports

[John G Smith]

I've gotten a few requests to post reviews. I'm currently in a somewhat long-term arrangement with a sugar baby, but she's in the middle of finals right now and prepping for graduation. Understandably we've been seeing each other little bit less lately, but hey a guy has needs! So for the past few weeks I've been getting up to speed with the AMP scene here in the NC. I've hit the jackpot at a couple of places, but I kinda want to finish a full census of the area before I give a more thorough report. It's going to take a little longer than expected because as mentioned earlier one girl is texting me daily and I got to give her repeat visits or see her outside of work.

I will say FS is definitely back in the NC AMPs after a very long absence. I haven't found FS in a place that hasn't already been reported here, but I can confirm their reports The biggest downside is that all the places that had FS were in VERY visible areas. This makes me nervous in going to those places and also reporting in detail about those places. Oceanside and Vista are not shy about AMP busts and I'm worried if these places have a high volume of foot traffic, it's going to get noticed easily by locals & prudes. It's honestly why I don't really recommend going to these places. I think the owners picked really bad spots to offer regular FS. Pick a quiet or rundown shopping outlet, but these places in Oceanside are in highly visible redeveloped areas, LOL. Won't be long for the noise and public nuisance complaints, followed by Vice.

So right now I have some more low-key supposedly HJ-only AMPs on my survey list. They're in quieter locations of Oceanside / Vista / Carlsbad and might be able to fish out additional extras without all the visibility. When I'm done, I'll make a report, but similar to Bob I won't be giving an overly detailed report on specifics about the girls for their protection. I'll leave enough clues so seasoned vets can piece it together and newbies who are willing to do research to have a chance.. But I'm not going to put these girls on a silver platter for every random considering how tenuous the AMP scene has traditionally been in the north county. We have to practice "sustainability" up here, LOL. This ain't Kearny Mesa.

[Bob521]

Great post, not just for newbies but seasoned guys as well.

As you said, be relaxed and friendly, and treat the girl nicely and with respect. WeChat and Google Translate help you to stay in contact with the girls.

Strange as it may seem, its sometimes more fun doing things with a non-pro. In Chicago I'd go to foot massage places, develop a rapport and then see them on their days off.

One other point, a philosophical thing, I prefer to talk about how to get extras in general, rather than describing a specific girl since that can easily get a girl fired. Most owners read these posts.

Bob.

I've mostly been in the Sugar Bowl the last 7-8 years, but I still enjoy partaking MPs every now and then, and I definitely enjoy the challenge and mystery of getting Extras in not so obvious places.

Here are some of my Tips.

1. Figure out your own "Groove". Meaning if you're a lady's man and you're playfully direct (like Bob) then you can go that route. If you're funny guy, use your humor. If you're a nice guy, be nice.

2. That said, you can never go wrong being a "nice guy" all things being equal. This means smiling, be polite, and respectful. Showing kindness and graciousness goes a LONG way with these women. I would say 8 out of 10 girls always remark how nice and respectful I am.

3. Don't be loud. Meaning when you greet and talk with her in the lobby and have small chit-chat in the room, keep your voice to a confident but low and easy volume. These girls don't like attracting a lot of attention in general, so loud laughs and such is going to make them nervous. Also they're going to be less likely to talk and be flirty with you if every word you say is like a bull-horn.

4. Unless you can pull it off playfully, don't be aggressive or pushy, ESPECIALLY on your first visit. If you grabher ass and she quickly pulls away take the hint. And even when she does let you lightly grope, don't overdo it. Massage her leg for 20 seconds or so when she's in a convenient position and then just gradually stop. You're giving her signals, but she still feels in control and you also give off a "respectful" and "controlled" vibe. And if you ask for a CBJ and she declines, just let it go. And if she's over-charging you on a HJ like. 8 then just politely decline. Don't get angry.

5. You're probably wondering why most of these tips so far relate to being a "nice" and other basics rather than some secret technique to get the Hidden Menu. But what these things do is make her COMFORTABLE. Once she feels fully comfortable around you, then you've taken the first major step to getting the Hidden Menu.

6. The next step is showing that you have the potential to be a good regular. Providers love regulars. So if you have a good session on your first visit with the girl, you MUST visit and see her again within a week. So it's important that you get her name at the beginning of the session and then towards the end of the session, ask for her schedule. You need to try hard to see her again, instead of a different girl. If you get a different girl this soon, you're back at square one. So follow-up within a week if you can. You don't want to over-tip (that makes you a sucker), but as others have said tipping 10 or 20 over the usual amount is good because it means she'll see you as valuable customer above the random walk-in. Eventually you'll get your money's worth as well.

7. Once you've made her "comfortable" and you've established yourself as a"regular", this is when you start making your moves. Just remember both comfort and being a regular is important. Just being a regular isn't enough because women have regulars that they absolutely hate. They'll do the minimum or just enough to get hem off and out as fast as possible. If a girl is giving you a mechanical or jack-hammer HJ with barely any eye-contact, giggling, or flirting then you probably haven't got her into a comfort zone. Granted, many of these girls do kind of go on auto-pilot and glaze over when giving extras, but you should be able to tell when a girl is trying to make you "happy" versus just trying to get you"off". Often times their behavior right after you cum is a great indicator. If they're very talkative or smiling, and attentiveness to you then they're probably comfortable with you. But if they kind of shutdown and quickly end the rest of the massage after the hot towel, then they probably see you as John #2389 and you're not there yet.

8. The original question was how to get extras beyond a standard HJ and minimal touching. So once you you've establish comfort and a regular, then start with under the clothes action. This is where your. 60 comes in handy. Since you're already giving 10-20 above the usual, the girl will likely feel obligated to let you cop an extra feel. You want to try to touch bare skin whether it's her ass or tits. Usually the ass is a bit easier because of positioning and the type of bra the girl is wearing. BUT don't immediately start trying to stick her fingers in her. Don't do anything invasive because that will likely take her out of her comfort zone. Take it slow at first. After the 3rd or so time doing this, you can lightly graze her magic box to take a temperature of where you're at but take it easy. But remember #3. If you're making very loud moans and noises just from a HJ and under clothes action, she'll be afraid to give you anything more because you blaring like a siren will draw too much attention.

9. Once you've gotten some under the clothes action, NOW is the time to start seeing a couple of the other girls in the AMP. Why? Girls are competitive. See another girl, the same girl for two visits or so. And it's important for the first girl know that you've seen someone else. The first girl may not show outwardly, she will get a little jealous and wonder what extras you're getting with the other girl. While these girls do talk about customers to each other, they are coy about what they do with each customer. I noticed this during a 4 hand massage. Individually I had practically disrobed each girl with my hands going everywhere I wanted with tons of dirty talk, but during the 4 hand, it was a straight HJ with zero touching under the clothes. I thought it was going to be the greatest massage ever but it ended up being the worst. It was like neither girl wanted to reveal what they did with me to the other. So the details of what goes on in a room with a girl is a bit of a black box so use that to your advantage.

10. Return to the first girl and try now to push the boundaries one notch up. If you did well, then she will likely allow you to do more vigorous touching. She wants to assert that you are HER regular. So she WANTS to make you happy and satisfied. From here you can feel out the vibe and you can determine what new extras you want to request. If you want to make the leap to BJ make sure you have the appropriate tip ready. Also when requesting a completely new or Hidden Menu item like that, try to schedule your appointment for an off hour when it's not busy or slow days. At some AMPs some girls may only see one or two customers on a very slow day, so if you see them on those days they'll be more amenable to Hidden Menu items for a good tip. If you can't go on a slow day, try schedule before closing or at the opening. Whatever time where they don't feel rushed.

Even if you do all these things, it just may not be possible to get FS from a HJ girl. The rooms / office / table just may not facilitate it or the girl just thinks it's too risky. And this does take time, it could take anywhere from 4-12 visits to get the Hidden Menu. But that's part of the fun, the challenge and uncertainty of it all. These tips though should most certainly get you to a minimum of some under clothes touching even with the shyest girl. Again, she has to be comfortable with you. If she's never comfortable with you, it's never going to happen.

And finally once you do access the Hidden Menu at a HJ-only AMP, be very cautious with sharing intel about it on public and review boards. If "Jenny" is suddenly getting dozens of guys (many of them not gentlemen) asking for her to blow or fuck them, then she's going to be very upset and may rip up her Hidden menu to you or worse she may get fired if her boss or other girls see reviews or get a surge of FS requests. So keep your hidden gem to yourself or only share it via PM with trusted members who know how to cultivate a relationship with a provider. If the girl moves on and no longer works there or it seems more / all girls at the AMP are providing extras beyond teasing / HJ then you're probably safe to review or post about her. I know we love to share information but these girls are trying to make a livelihood or pay the bills, so don't get them in trouble. Also if a girl sees a fellow provider getting shamed or fired because she gave BJ / FS then that girl is less likely to risk offering Hidden Menu items to you. If the girls are afraid, they are less likely to do anything. So the less we burn girls, the less fear there will be, and the better chance you have at finding hidden gems. You can drop subtle hints about a place without putting girls on blast.

[Ryan1979]

Not at the La Mesa Blue Green. Was in the area today and took a look. It is some kind of Youth Services organization. The guy who posted on Rubmaps must have been trying to review the other Blue Green (in the Convoy area, I think).

I'm referring to the BG spa in Chula Vista on Bonita Rd, 2nd floor.

[TJ Dog]

Three girls, Linda is the best!

Not at the La Mesa Blue Green. Was in the area today and took a look. It is some kind of Youth Services organization. The guy who posted on Rubmaps must have been trying to review the other Blue Green (in the Convoy area, I think).

[GilfLover]

I agree, most more seasoned providers, I have encountered are more into pleasing, and less likely to have GPS. I seek out the mature providers, and the fun just continues.

100% accurate. Coming from an old dude, of co.

[GilfLover]

Paid Eva a visit today, been a while. Shot her a text and she was available right away. Paid the 50/ hr, she gave amazing as always medium / hard pressure, mixed in teasing of the jewels and pulling my johnson out so it could flex to attencion. Pulled my arms behind my back and into her crouch while she straddled me for full fingering access. Dropped the top and teased my back / ass with her hard nipples. Flipped and continued the nipple rub on the boys, did her light kisses all over, including my sack and now at full attention member. She reversed and mounted up for some 69, love her shaved bare snatch in my face. Worked her magic with continual kisses while she stroked me to an explosion (As explosive as a 59 year old dude can, LOL) Hot towel cleanup and then finished out the time with neck / head / scalp massage, followed by some stretching. Wonderful time at Diamond as always.

[JWalker350]

Great advice, and if you bought a Massage place with your wife and girlfriend, well that is a Happy Ending for sure!!

I think he bought a spa and let his girlfriend runs it without his wife knowing.

[BeachDrone]

...I've also noticed slightly mature, women in the business tend to be pleasers too. Especially for us more "mature" men...

I agree, most more seasoned providers, I have encountered are more into pleasing, and less likely to have GPS. I seek out the mature providers, and the fun just continues.

[Amp Wang Lei]

Great advice, and if you bought a Massage place with your wife and girlfriend, well that is a Happy Ending for sure!!

You get a sixth sense. Here are a couple tips.

1. Do your research ahead of time for the shop you are visiting. Read this forum. Read rub maps. 10-20 reviews means probably HE place. 200 reviews means FS place.

2. Lie naked on the table. Face down. If she puts towel on you say not necessary.

3. When you meet the girl introduce yourself. Smile. Hold open your arms. Hug her. Be relaxed. Friendly. Not nervous.


4. When you remove junk from your pockets on the side table place 3 condoms in full view.

5. One time I was in a mood, when she came in the room I hugged her kissed her. And I said let's fuck. She said shhh! Then we fucked twice. She kept the third condom LOL.

6. After 10 minutes, Offer to massage her. If she says yes. Make sure you do a good job. Make her relax. Ask before you remove clothing.

7. Make sure you get her name and, at the end trade wechat IDs. Explain you want to see her again. Later that day send a note thanking her. Wechat and Google translate are critical apps for interacting with a girl. I also learned Chinese. That does make a good impression.

8. Eventually take her out on her day off. Shopping. Eat. Had one friend who loved Red Lobster. Get a hotel.

9. At one point I was up to 4 girlfriends. I was afraid to walk around Chicago Chinatown with a girl lest I be seen. I was popping viagra like tic tacs. I'm 68.

10. Eventually I settled down with one girl plus a wife. We bought a legit massage place.

Bob.

[Amp Wang Lei]

I've seen the talent at Leisure Spa on CMB mentioned here, but I want to point out a particular Superstar who was not previously mentioned.

Long before COVID, I called and asked if a "young woman" was available and was told "yes, come now", so I did. As I'm lying there naked on my back and owning the room, a mature woman (still less mature than me) walks in with a very friendly attitude. We all know a walk in, or a 5-minute on my way phone call gets you what you get, so my attitude is cool enough. Besides, although I like some fun, I like massages too.

Let me tell you Amy gives you a fantastic massage with strategic teasing and casual playing along the way. Language can be a little challenging at times, but she is cheerful, and very happy to see that you are happy. I've also noticed slightly mature, women in the business tend to be pleasers too. Especially for us more "mature" men who the younger women may not think we are built like Aqua-man, look like Thor, and hung like a porn star.

I enjoyed a great massage with teasing, oil, wipe down, and to the flip. We negotiated for a little more which she lovingly took to her care. She has great hands, great technique, and is playful in her tasks. I was allowed some freedom to roam and got a warm hug on my finish.

As I laid there quite happy I stayed with her, Amy, did a wonderful foot massage to finish me off for my head to toe experience with her. This felt fantastic. She was attentive, helpful, grateful, and asked me to come back many times. The massage is great, the fun is fantastic, and the company very enjoyable. Each time she treats me like a king.

She is one of my favorites and I will continue to support her business. Someday you should let Amy show you what she can do for you. I think you'll be happy. There is a lot of talent at Leisure Spa, especially the Un Sung Superstar Amy.

Of course, YMMV, but be a "good" customer, and I think you'll be rewarded.

Bon chance, and happy hunting.

[GilfLover]

Yep this is true. I'm a minority and I've experienced this first-hand.

That' said, I haven't had any issues in years. Why is that? Because it's pretty easy to overcome. Follow the "nice guy" tips I posted below and also make sure you are clean-cut, smell good / fresh, and dress nicely. And by speaking in a low calm voice, I usually already have the girl at ease by the time I step into the room. I usually don't like putting the tip out at the beginning because I feel it limits me, especially when I'm trying a new place or new girl. But during the course of the massage when she's willing to give me "extras" and she wants the tip upfront, I oblige with no questions asked. On subsequent visits they usually don't ask for the tip upfront anymore.

There's definitely discrimination, but it can be overcome and there are surprises out there. Once a girl gets comfortable with you sometimes being certain ethnicities can play to your advantage because some of these girls are curious. To illustrate my point, just this week I want to a north county AMP that had FS. It was my first time there and I got this extremely attractive girl in her late 20's / early 30's. I got the full menu right off the bat at the standard rate, she was giggling / smiling the whole time, and afterward she wanted to exchange numbers. We've been texting each other (with the help of Google Translate, LOL) the last several days. She wants me to take her out for dinner, but she doesn't want to get in trouble with her boss so she's trying to find a good time to sneak out, LOL. Not sure if anything is going to come from it and I don't want to get her in trouble, but at minimum I can easily schedule an appointment at the AMP with this hot young Chinese girl who will treat me like a king. Being clean cut, a nice guy with no incessant haggling will get you in the game even if you're a minority that typically faces discrimination in these places.

How about a mini review, or a couple more details about your recent experience? Was it in north county or north Carolina?

GL.

[JWalker350]

Was this guys getting busted going to motels from independent ads placed on adult search / etc or did they get nailed at an AMP. ?

I would think if you stick to the places that others have reviewed your chances of getting busted are low.

I would think it would be much more difficult for the police to infiltrate a known massage parlor and then force the girls to work under cover for them they're much more likely to get busted responding to some too good to be true ad and showing up to some hotel with condoms and cash in your pocket.

I think independence escorts.

[GilfLover]

Three girls, Linda is the best!

Did they do any remodeling? Or is it still sheer sheets for walls?

GL.

[John G Smith]

Also, protip for our marginalized brothers out there: I know there's discrimination and racism, they get stiffed a lot by certain ethnicities so if you're unfortunate to belong to that group, a good workaround is to place the tip visibly on the table. Note: this is a risk on your part if you have no intel, so do this if you at least know the girl treats other brothers solidly and don't do it for every rando or you'll get burned. There are tons of Chinese providers who are all about the grab the cash and rush you out. This does NOT work for those types.

Yep this is true. I'm a minority and I've experienced this first-hand.

That' said, I haven't had any issues in years. Why is that? Because it's pretty easy to overcome. Follow the "nice guy" tips I posted below and also make sure you are clean-cut, smell good / fresh, and dress nicely. And by speaking in a low calm voice, I usually already have the girl at ease by the time I step into the room. I usually don't like putting the tip out at the beginning because I feel it limits me, especially when I'm trying a new place or new girl. But during the course of the massage when she's willing to give me "extras" and she wants the tip upfront, I oblige with no questions asked. On subsequent visits they usually don't ask for the tip upfront anymore.

There's definitely discrimination, but it can be overcome and there are surprises out there. Once a girl gets comfortable with you sometimes being certain ethnicities can play to your advantage because some of these girls are curious. To illustrate my point, just this week I want to a north county AMP that had FS. It was my first time there and I got this extremely attractive girl in her late 20's / early 30's. I got the full menu right off the bat at the standard rate, she was giggling / smiling the whole time, and afterward she wanted to exchange numbers. We've been texting each other (with the help of Google Translate, LOL) the last several days. She wants me to take her out for dinner, but she doesn't want to get in trouble with her boss so she's trying to find a good time to sneak out, LOL. Not sure if anything is going to come from it and I don't want to get her in trouble, but at minimum I can easily schedule an appointment at the AMP with this hot young Chinese girl who will treat me like a king. Being clean cut, a nice guy with no incessant haggling will get you in the game even if you're a minority that typically faces discrimination in these places.

[WardTerry]

Has anyone been to Flanders or Pine in the last couple of weeks and was the talent pretty good?

I only go out probably once or twice every six months I had been going to pain but lately switch to Flanders I've been there two or three times the last two times had the same girl I think it was Lily. Great bare back bulk followed by several locations with condo.

She has a great body. She looos late 30's or even early 40's but she is tight and has great tits.

The next time I go I'm hoping for someone on the younger side.

Any suggestions??