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**EngrJoe** · 08-13-21 15:57

Originally Posted by SeattleMassage [View Original Post]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...cking-n1276617

No worries, Texas is controlled by the same party that brought fester / siesta in 2018. Maybe they can take it on the road in 2024.

**Marko Ramius** · 08-13-21 14:44

Originally Posted by Anonymous420 [View Original Post]

Wonder if this will bring the heat on SA. Like get shut down like Backpage sort of heat.

I doubt it.

A lot of the heat on SA and Craigslist before it was about human trafficking and girls being forced to work. It is hard to make that kind of argument against SA. SA's aggressive official stance against prostitution also helps them, as does the fact that the swing the ban stick at the slightest provocation.

**AussieFury** · 08-13-21 13:28

Originally Posted by Smuma6 [View Original Post]

"I want a lawyer" is pleading the Fifth.

Right to have an attorney present during questioning is guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment.

**Anonymous420** · 08-13-21 12:44

Originally Posted by MarkoRamius [View Original Post]

That's been out there and confirmed for several months. Word is that the prosecutors have screen shots of Greenberg's SA profile in their evidence.

Wonder if this will bring the heat on SA. Like get shut down like Backpage sort of heat.

**Marko Ramius** · 08-13-21 12:03

That's been out there and confirmed for several months. Word is that the prosecutors have screen shots of Greenberg's SA profile in their evidence.

Originally Posted by Anonymous420 [View Original Post]

With the words used by the people mentioned in the article, I wonder if the unnamed website Greenberg and Gaetz used was SA.

https://www.businessinsider.com/gree...-report-2021-8

**Sierra566** · 08-13-21 10:28

Originally Posted by SeattleMassage [View Original Post]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...cking-n1276617

Same logic as the war on drugs, which has proved to be so successful. Lets hope this idea doesn't spread.

**BoboThe55** · 08-13-21 08:53

Originally Posted by Anonymous420 [View Original Post]

With the words used by the people mentioned in the article, I wonder if the unnamed website Greenberg and Gaetz used was SA.

https://www.businessinsider.com/gree...-report-2021-8

They are really stretching this to gey Gaetz!

Its kind of scary.

**Smuma6** · 08-13-21 07:24

Originally Posted by CrashBandi [View Original Post]

There's a law professor who has a 46 minutes discussion based on the reason why you don't say one word to LE, not even pledging the 5th.

He basically says that you are legally obligated to tell the cop your name and what you're doing at that very moment. Outside of that, you just say "I want a lawyer".

"I want a lawyer" is pleading the Fifth.

**Anonymous420** · 08-13-21 01:09

With the words used by the people mentioned in the article, I wonder if the unnamed website Greenberg and Gaetz used was SA.

https://www.businessinsider.com/gree...-report-2021-8

**SeattleMassage** · 08-12-21 15:47

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...cking-n1276617

**CrashBandi** · 06-08-21 03:03

Originally Posted by SeattleMassage [View Original Post]

Okay I would like to talk about this. So, ummm, why exactly? You obviously need cash at a massage parlor, the door itself might say "cash only" and just because you are or were there doesn't at all mean that you were doing anything illegal. Maybe things are happening in some other rooms, but that does not mean at all you either were doing something illegal or that you knew what was happening in a different room. Can't you just tell them you were here to get a massage? As far as being (possibly) naked well, yeah, it was a massage obviously.

There's a law professor who has a 46 minutes discussion based on the reason why you don't say one word to LE, not even pledging the 5th.

He basically says that you are legally obligated to tell the cop your name and what you're doing at that very moment. Outside of that, you just say "I want a lawyer".

**Marko Ramius** · 04-23-21 17:32

Originally Posted by SeattleMassage [View Original Post]

Okay I would like to talk about this. So, ummm, why exactly? You obviously need cash at a massage parlor, the door itself might say "cash only" and just because you are or were there doesn't at all mean that you were doing anything illegal. Maybe things are happening in some other rooms, but that does not mean at all you either were doing something illegal or that you knew what was happening in a different room. Can't you just tell them you were here to get a massage? As far as being (possibly) naked well, yeah, it was a massage obviously.

Think it through, and remember that the police and prosecutors are at least as well-informed about the hobby, practices, and going rates as all of us are. How many of us know exactly what the price is for FS &c and also know, through experience, to bring only the exact amount of money you are willing to spend? So if you are bare-ass-naked on the massage table at CeCe's Spa and you just have your ID and $160 in cash on you, the cops are going to reasonably infer that you were there to fuck. Is that enough for a conviction? I don't know. But certainly they can use that information to arrest you. And while you might well win in court, you'll probably pay a lot of money for the privilege that you'd probably rather spend elsewhere. A successful criminal defense that goes to trial will probably set you back $20 grand or more. And if you lose they are going to come down on you very hard.

On a similar note, some escorts have been busted because they had a big box of condoms in their purse.

In general it is a stupid idea to lie to or even bullshit the cops. While they may not be able to prove that you were lying to them, they will still know it and that will give them license to fuck with you. And you certainly won't enjoy it.

Obligatory funny story: I had a regular some years ago, and made it a practice to give her both the house fee and the tip when I first got to the room so she could just come back and get busy. Well, as luck would have it after she took my money and left the room the cops came in. So there I was, bare-ass naked in the room with my ID and fifteen bucks. The following conversation ensued:

Officer: what were you thinking coming here with only fifteen dollars?

Me: well, if the lady gives me a good massage I like to leave a nice tip.

Officer: you are the biggest motherfucking idiot in the world. And you are free to go.

Me:

**SeattleMassage** · 04-23-21 15:57

Originally Posted by MarkoRamius [View Original Post]

If you get caught at an incall or an MP with a bunch of cash on you or even near you you are pretty much fucked.

Okay I would like to talk about this. So, ummm, why exactly? You obviously need cash at a massage parlor, the door itself might say "cash only" and just because you are or were there doesn't at all mean that you were doing anything illegal. Maybe things are happening in some other rooms, but that does not mean at all you either were doing something illegal or that you knew what was happening in a different room. Can't you just tell them you were here to get a massage? As far as being (possibly) naked well, yeah, it was a massage obviously.

**Marko Ramius** · 04-22-21 20:26

Originally Posted by TomaIn [View Original Post]

Just remember, never talk money in person. When you meet up, don't hand them any $$, just set it down somewhere on the floor or table. No verbal acknowledgement. If you don't physically hand them $$ you can pull the defense "I didn't pay for anything". May or may not work but it is about the only work around.

If you get caught at an incall or an MP with a bunch of cash on you or even near you you are pretty much fucked.

This is, for a great many reasons, an inherently risky activity. You can get busted, you can get robbed and beaten half to death, your employer can find out and fire you, your wife can find out and divorce you. The important thing is to never assume you are invincible and to realize that you are always one misstep from disaster. The moral of the story is that men do crazy shit for pussy.

**TomaIn** · 04-22-21 19:30

Originally Posted by Diver6390 [View Original Post]

The woke people of Seattle or NY will never allow it. Johns are seen as victimizers of the poor sex worker. So the woman chooses to do what she likes with her body, that's empowerment. But if you, you misogynistic pig, take her up on it, then you are abusing your maleness. And if you are white, well, then double whammy! In their world, they will position a social worker (because cops are bad) in the doorway of said sex worker, and as soon as you, the client pays her, they will take you to jail.

Just remember, never talk money in person. When you meet up, don't hand them any $$, just set it down somewhere on the floor or table. No verbal acknowledgement. If you don't physically hand them $$ you can pull the defense "I didn't pay for anything". May or may not work but it is about the only work around.