"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FanRat]

I have seen a lot of threads about these 2 and have gotten the impression that folks prefer SA so I never set up an account on SB until today. If you saw my earlier post SA banned me.

If I understand it right SA is based in the US and has to be very careful about soliciting but SB is not.

Does that mean I don't have to be quite as careful with what I say on SB and can I be more explicit in my profile description?

Thanks!

[ChrisHansen92]

As a female if you join with a edu (college) email you get the premium for free. So any girl that joins with that is a premium member. For those that join with a non college email they can upgrade for 19.99 a month.

So what is the difference between chicks w / premium next to their name and ones that don't have it?

Why would an SB need to upgrade seems like they can access all the features without premium. Idk.

I don't trust those profiles very much. Are they SA fake accounts or pros?

[Madaboutmax]

SBs can upgrade to premium for free with a ".edu" email address or for $20 a month.

The Premium SB Membership has more filtering options on searches, can tell when an SD was last active, can see if their messages have been read, can hide their profile from searches or dashboards, can hide their join date or last login date and can see if an SD profile is premium or not.

It useful, but not necessary for most SBs. The free Basic SB Membership works fine for most.

So what is the difference between chicks w / premium next to their name and ones that don't have it?

Why would an SB need to upgrade seems like they can access all the features without premium. Idk.

I don't trust those profiles very much. Are they SA fake accounts or pros?

[Member #6575]

So what is the difference between chicks w / premium next to their name and ones that don't have it?

Why would an SB need to upgrade seems like they can access all the features without premium. Idk.

I don't trust those profiles very much. Are they SA fake accounts or pros?

Its just girls that the SA site algorithm flags as active and they message and hopefully meet. They want to flag them so that a) they get more traffic b) mongers (sorry SDs) get responses to messages rather than crickets -- so more likely to stay as members.

SA.

[FarFarAway]

So what is the difference between chicks w / premium next to their name and ones that don't have it?

Why would an SB need to upgrade seems like they can access all the features without premium. Idk.

I don't trust those profiles very much. Are they SA fake accounts or pros?

Girls who provide a verified email address from a college (. Edu domain name) get that.

[Banger12]

So what is the difference between chicks w / premium next to their name and ones that don't have it?

Why would an SB need to upgrade seems like they can access all the features without premium. Idk.

I don't trust those profiles very much. Are they SA fake accounts or pros?

[FarFarAway]

If they initiated the conversation that way, then you can get your account reinstated; that happened to me. The 2nd msg from somebody was, I do incalls and I get 4 ppm, let me know if interested.

Now, hindsight, I should have reported that myself, but didn't; got banned 2 days later, so I emailed support, they looked it up, and they won't tell you why you got banned, but it must have been that, and they said they reviewed my account and it was back to normal.

Now, women who do this, if you're not interested, they are the ones who can report you, so after that incident, if I got a msg like that, and wasn't interested, I would immediately report account. Never had a problem after that.

While I appreciate the gal is the offender, I don't think it is in your interest to be the police. Rather than reporting, I just block those profiles when I get those sorts of messages. Definitely don't engage in any conversation with them. One key, in any conflict, is to be sure to block her first, that way she can't get to your profile to report you and get you in trouble.

[FanRat]

If they initiated the conversation that way, then you can get your account reinstated; that happened to me. The 2nd msg from somebody was, I do incalls and I get 4 ppm, let me know if interested.

Now, hindsight, I should have reported that myself, but didn't; got banned 2 days later, so I emailed support, they looked it up, and they won't tell you why you got banned, but it must have been that, and they said they reviewed my account and it was back to normal.

Now, women who do this, if you're not interested, they are the ones who can report you, so after that incident, if I got a msg like that, and wasn't interested, I would immediately report account. Never had a problem after that.

I should have cut off as soon as she said she's an escort and reported it but.

I may email support to see if I can get re-instated just to follow up conversations I had already started and finish out the month but I don't think Ill renew.

[Kingmaletx]

I think SA uses trolls to thin the herd. My last 2 accounts have been banned for "soliciting". In both cases the most recent conversation was with a people who openly said they were escorts and did ppm. In both cases they started the conversation and even quoted rates. Also in both cases I used the term incall in a message and next time I went to log in I was banned. I am beginning to wonder if they are plants and if you engage them they ban you.

In any case F at #k SA! Not wasting another penny.

Be safe!

If they initiated the conversation that way, then you can get your account reinstated; that happened to me. The 2nd msg from somebody was, I do incalls and I get 4 ppm, let me know if interested.

Now, hindsight, I should have reported that myself, but didn't; got banned 2 days later, so I emailed support, they looked it up, and they won't tell you why you got banned, but it must have been that, and they said they reviewed my account and it was back to normal.

Now, women who do this, if you're not interested, they are the ones who can report you, so after that incident, if I got a msg like that, and wasn't interested, I would immediately report account. Never had a problem after that.

[FanRat]

I think SA uses trolls to thin the herd. My last 2 accounts have been banned for "soliciting". In both cases the most recent conversation was with a people who openly said they were escorts and did ppm. In both cases they started the conversation and even quoted rates. Also in both cases I used the term incall in a message and next time I went to log in I was banned. I am beginning to wonder if they are plants and if you engage them they ban you.

In any case F at #k SA! Not wasting another penny.

Be safe!

[Jcn1965]

You didn't read the whole history. He's on Maui. There's a non-zero chance he's going to run into her in public at some point. He doesn't want there to be a scene, just her ignoring him.

Yea you right didn't register the island thing but still if you on a island I think you wouldn't do the Sb thing.

[Wysiwug]

I've been reading the strings on terminating SD / SD relationships. As the forum thread say's "Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not? No matter what age, you have to make the determination during the initial communication (electronically or by M&G) if they are Amateurs or Not by discussing with the SB your personal guidelines for setting up a mutual beneficial arraignment. If not, it's simple, you will lose control.

If the determination is "not", other than having to deal with negotiating with the GPS syndrome one's or UTR's depending on the set arrangement then most likely there will be no emotional connection and probably you are just one of many Stallions in their income stable. But there are exceptions..

If the determination is amateur; in many cases they don't have the ability manage an income stable of Sd's and are looking for one mutual beneficial arraignment, where ultimately there may be an emotional connection at risk. No matter how good it appears to be, you need to have a planned exit strategy incorporated into your guidelines if the relationship seems to start heading south. Again, there are exceptions..

Remember it takes two in a relationship; it's easy to get in but hard to punch out if it's spiraling out of control. Think with the big head not the little one.

As DreamCatching said..

Mahalo and stay safe.

[DreamCatching]

Greetings everyone.

Thank you for all your advice and wisdom, If I was ever living in a densely populated area I wouldn't be thinking too hard on this case so I definitely envy you all. I appreciate you all for taking the time for the assist, If you are ever in Hawaii I'll be happy to do some digging and info searching for you (Just PM me).

Also RogerOver I apologize for the way I was wording about myself in earlier posts. I meant old as in old-fashioned. The scenario was that I was a novice in hosting (I rarely did it) and was trying to say that if there have been new more updated ways to host anonymously over the years (technology and whatnot gets updated so fast). I'm actually young in body my friend (late 20's), decently experienced in hobbying, but an amatuer in seeking. I turn to fellow gents in larger forums of different states for advice since I feel like you've see pretty much everything in the Seeking world.

I promise I'll do my own research as well folks (your SB highlight thread is most helpful) and thank you.

Mahalo and stay safe.

[FarFarAway]

No disrespect intended but if she doesn't know who you are ie using a burner phone doesn't know your full name or details about who you are why are you being so cordial? Screw that tell her your done and ghost her. On other hand if you have her any information about who you are then your screwed. Never ever give out that kind of info I've been there done that and sooner or later these arrangements end and sometimes very badly. Just my 2 cents. But don't give these girls that kind of power over the arrangement.

You didn't read the whole history. He's on Maui. There's a non-zero chance he's going to run into her in public at some point. He doesn't want there to be a scene, just her ignoring him.

[Alkalinedio]

I met one a few months ago that said she was taking pills for schizophrenia, mind you, she was 19 or 20 and had a few fun sessions but wanted to cut that cold as I saw some ODD mood things go in my car nothing crazy but like extra-long gaze into nowhere, etc. So, I told her due to covid I was driving up to Humbolt County to work on a grow farm for two months! No cell service I told her, but I need to get rent money It worked well and burned that number same time / blocked her.

Stay safe.

AD.

Greeting's gents, I was hoping to be seeking some wisdom form you all.

I remember taking advice from you all with a situation I had last time and I was able (along with some research) to procure a sugar baby or two on Maui. In some islands in Hawaii, the SB game is scarce and difficult, so I thank you all for helping me achieve such a feat. Recently though I ended up getting one who can host, but in turn got into a situation I never encountered before and would appreciate your wisdom from the experts.

I've been seeing this girl a few times at her place. Since the island is small, I try to keep everything private and discreet as possible. As far as I can tell she has not fully seen my car (only in the dead of night so it's inaccurate) nor does she know my phone either. The first few times and through messages she's been very chill and pleasing, but my last visit after we were having a cooldown from a session, she started talking about how she was having a fight with one of her renters. I of course don't judge and let her have her vent and try to say something neutral, but comforting. For some reason, some flip switched on her and she thought I was being rude or disrespectful. Could not diffuse the situation so tried to salvage the awkward moment, left my donation, and leave as quickly as possible with an awkward goodbye. I'm usually a good vibe with all the women I meet and the donation I give has been decent enough for them to not speak up about it so I'm not sure what I did wrong, but I do want to end my arrangement with her. How would you gents tackle this situation?.