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[Marko Ramius]

Okay I would like to talk about this. So, ummm, why exactly? You obviously need cash at a massage parlor, the door itself might say "cash only" and just because you are or were there doesn't at all mean that you were doing anything illegal. Maybe things are happening in some other rooms, but that does not mean at all you either were doing something illegal or that you knew what was happening in a different room. Can't you just tell them you were here to get a massage? As far as being (possibly) naked well, yeah, it was a massage obviously.

Think it through, and remember that the police and prosecutors are at least as well-informed about the hobby, practices, and going rates as all of us are. How many of us know exactly what the price is for FS &c and also know, through experience, to bring only the exact amount of money you are willing to spend? So if you are bare-ass-naked on the massage table at CeCe's Spa and you just have your ID and $160 in cash on you, the cops are going to reasonably infer that you were there to fuck. Is that enough for a conviction? I don't know. But certainly they can use that information to arrest you. And while you might well win in court, you'll probably pay a lot of money for the privilege that you'd probably rather spend elsewhere. A successful criminal defense that goes to trial will probably set you back $20 grand or more. And if you lose they are going to come down on you very hard.

On a similar note, some escorts have been busted because they had a big box of condoms in their purse.

In general it is a stupid idea to lie to or even bullshit the cops. While they may not be able to prove that you were lying to them, they will still know it and that will give them license to fuck with you. And you certainly won't enjoy it.

Obligatory funny story: I had a regular some years ago, and made it a practice to give her both the house fee and the tip when I first got to the room so she could just come back and get busy. Well, as luck would have it after she took my money and left the room the cops came in. So there I was, bare-ass naked in the room with my ID and fifteen bucks. The following conversation ensued:

Officer: what were you thinking coming here with only fifteen dollars?

Me: well, if the lady gives me a good massage I like to leave a nice tip.

Officer: you are the biggest motherfucking idiot in the world. And you are free to go.

Me:

[SeattleMassage]

If you get caught at an incall or an MP with a bunch of cash on you or even near you you are pretty much fucked.

Okay I would like to talk about this. So, ummm, why exactly? You obviously need cash at a massage parlor, the door itself might say "cash only" and just because you are or were there doesn't at all mean that you were doing anything illegal. Maybe things are happening in some other rooms, but that does not mean at all you either were doing something illegal or that you knew what was happening in a different room. Can't you just tell them you were here to get a massage? As far as being (possibly) naked well, yeah, it was a massage obviously.

[Marko Ramius]

Just remember, never talk money in person. When you meet up, don't hand them any $$, just set it down somewhere on the floor or table. No verbal acknowledgement. If you don't physically hand them $$ you can pull the defense "I didn't pay for anything". May or may not work but it is about the only work around.

If you get caught at an incall or an MP with a bunch of cash on you or even near you you are pretty much fucked.

This is, for a great many reasons, an inherently risky activity. You can get busted, you can get robbed and beaten half to death, your employer can find out and fire you, your wife can find out and divorce you. The important thing is to never assume you are invincible and to realize that you are always one misstep from disaster. The moral of the story is that men do crazy shit for pussy.

[TomaIn]

The woke people of Seattle or NY will never allow it. Johns are seen as victimizers of the poor sex worker. So the woman chooses to do what she likes with her body, that's empowerment. But if you, you misogynistic pig, take her up on it, then you are abusing your maleness. And if you are white, well, then double whammy! In their world, they will position a social worker (because cops are bad) in the doorway of said sex worker, and as soon as you, the client pays her, they will take you to jail.

Just remember, never talk money in person. When you meet up, don't hand them any $$, just set it down somewhere on the floor or table. No verbal acknowledgement. If you don't physically hand them $$ you can pull the defense "I didn't pay for anything". May or may not work but it is about the only work around.

[Diver6390]

The Seattle Clowncile has been talking about it for a while. Hopefully if they do something like this, they make the entire process legal to include the "Johns" unlike NY proposal.

The woke people of Seattle or NY will never allow it. Johns are seen as victimizers of the poor sex worker. So the woman chooses to do what she likes with her body, that's empowerment. But if you, you misogynistic pig, take her up on it, then you are abusing your maleness. And if you are white, well, then double whammy! In their world, they will position a social worker (because cops are bad) in the doorway of said sex worker, and as soon as you, the client pays her, they will take you to jail.

[TomaIn]

This is interesting and I wonder if this will ever happen here in Seattle.

https://news.yahoo.com/manhattan-sto...155038135.html

The Seattle Clowncile has been talking about it for a while. Hopefully if they do something like this, they make the entire process legal to include the "Johns" unlike NY proposal.

[PriceIsRight39]

A quote from that article: "The office will continue to prosecute other crimes related to prostitution, including patronizing sex workers. . . ".

Unless there's some fancy legal definition of 'patronizing' I don't know about, it sounds like they'll still prosecute johns. While I'm all for the decriminalization of sex work, it probably won't do much if their customers are still criminalized. I can't think of any other market where it's legal to sell something but illegal to buy it. It sounds very progressive but doesn't seem to actually change anything. So, yeah, it sounds very much like something that we might do here in Seattle.

Key word " progressive".

[BBPornoGeek]

A quote from that article: "The office will continue to prosecute other crimes related to prostitution, including patronizing sex workers. . . ".

Unless there's some fancy legal definition of 'patronizing' I don't know about, it sounds like they'll still prosecute johns. While I'm all for the decriminalization of sex work, it probably won't do much if their customers are still criminalized. I can't think of any other market where it's legal to sell something but illegal to buy it. It sounds very progressive but doesn't seem to actually change anything. So, yeah, it sounds very much like something that we might do here in Seattle.

Canada is mostly like that.

[Fnarplep]

This is interesting and I wonder if this will ever happen here in Seattle.

https://news.yahoo.com/manhattan-sto...155038135.html

A quote from that article: "The office will continue to prosecute other crimes related to prostitution, including patronizing sex workers. . . ".

Unless there's some fancy legal definition of 'patronizing' I don't know about, it sounds like they'll still prosecute johns. While I'm all for the decriminalization of sex work, it probably won't do much if their customers are still criminalized. I can't think of any other market where it's legal to sell something but illegal to buy it. It sounds very progressive but doesn't seem to actually change anything. So, yeah, it sounds very much like something that we might do here in Seattle.

[DarkDan]

This is interesting and I wonder if this will ever happen here in Seattle.

https://news.yahoo.com/manhattan-sto...155038135.html

[Jimmysixxx7]

Will someone quote Marty's post. I'm pretty sure he blocked me and I can't see them. They are always entertaining to read.

[MartyByrde]

Saw this morning where the FDA is pausing the use of the J & J vaccine, due to reported blood clots in the brain for some women. I've already received both doses of the Moderna vaccine, but this is disappointing, to say the least. Getting only one dose sure is an attractive method. Hopefully these are very isolated incidents.

[Marko Ramius]

Anyone want to be that the good congressman was on one or more arrangement site? Rumors are his girl was on SA.

[Facials]

I would love to see a thread for providers who are pimped vs. Indy. I've had more than one experience where the information I got from the person I was text was aligned with the provider's expectations on allowable services. I imagine there are others like me who'd rather not waste time with the pimped.

Most are pimped.

[Ashun]

I would love to see a thread for providers who are pimped vs. Indy. I've had more than one experience where the information I got from the person I was text was aligned with the provider's expectations on allowable services. I imagine there are others like me who'd rather not waste time with the pimped.

When I saw Misty, she willingly did the job and when it came time, she went back home. Speaking with her (at least with her) she was using the agency as a way to get more business. But I guess she could have just been saying that as well.