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  1. #14145
    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3R  [View Original Post]
    I assumed house fee then. 6 for FS LOL. Which would still be a good deal, curious on how she looks tbh.
    He says in original report face looks old body looks young LOL. Her age listed as 40's-50's. Either way decent price for FS (tip+HF) I won't be running over there however LOL.

  2. #14144
    Quote Originally Posted by Malencho  [View Original Post]
    Do you mean 1. 6 or. 6? because 40 for hhr, that would mean you tipped only 20 for everything!
    I assumed house fee then. 6 for FS LOL. Which would still be a good deal, curious on how she looks tbh.

  3. #14143

    JW and DB Spa. Recommendations for next time?

    A few reports from recent weeks:

    JW: went in through the backdoor, quiet entrance, small Asian in her 20's answered, didn't get name. Nice small dress on. .5 for hh. Poor massage, very weak, but rubbed her thigh on my shoulder and got me going. Tight ass, could feel under her dress she had no panties on. Great body. She asked to flip quickly and offered the full menu. Pretty unenthusiastic CBJ, but enjoyed playing with her body so was worth it. Definitely a rushed experience but enjoyable all the same.

    DB: Latina in her 40's, didn't get name, this was a few weeks ago and she said it was her second last day. Discrete entrance from the back of the shop. Enjoyable, firm rub for a good 20 mins before flipping and she asked if she could rub round my thighs. .6 for he and she pulled down her top to reveal an incredible rack. False, but great shape and fun to play with. More enjoyable experience because of her rack than I expected.

    I'm looking for a good he massage with a provider in her 20's. Seems like a combo that doesn't exist much, does anyone have experience with places like mercury or moon spa? They advertise a lot as if they have providers in their 20's LOL.

  4. #14142

    Jw

    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer8  [View Original Post]
    I hear a lot of this JW and W spa. Could someone please elaborate.
    JW is on mission Gorge rd just north of the 8 freeway. Very easy to see on right side of road.

  5. #14141

    160

    Quote Originally Posted by Malencho  [View Original Post]
    Do you mean 1. 6 or. 6? because 40 for hhr, that would mean you tipped only 20 for everything!
    I don't think anyone out there is getting a FS for 20.

  6. #14140

    FS price

    Quote Originally Posted by GdAloha  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by the Spa off Dagget last week, only two girls working. Ended up getting Angel who I saw sometime last year. I would say she's in her 40's or 50's. 40 for the hhr. The age is mostly predominant in her face, because her body looks like a 25-35 year old. Average massage and services offered after the flip. Got the typical FS package and ended up exploding a little to much and got it all over her dress. Had a nice time and would consider repeating, but prefer the younger ones. Out the door $60.
    Do you mean 1. 6 or. 6? because 40 for hhr, that would mean you tipped only 20 for everything!

  7. #14139
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    How they are paid

    I've collected a little more direct data and can say from my sample (based on my girlfriend and business partner) that the girl gets about $22-$25 out of a $60 house fee. And now with AB5 (the 1099 rule) many (not all) are issuing W2's instead of 1099. And so they get a pay stub with withholding etc. Just like a conventional paycheck. I really have trouble believing this is widespread yet or that workers would accept the concept of a conventional paycheck with deductions. But, of course they still get paid by the massage. So the paycheck uses an hourly pay rate like $15 per hour and then the number of hours is a plug number. So if she had 12 massages one week, at a $25 negotiated price that's $300. At $15 per hour rate they would book 20 hours of work. Oh. And one more thing, they would impute a tip (like 20%) and add it to the wages.

    Got to say that is nothing like Chicago where we did business for 5 years. There it was all 1099. We are about to open a local (probably Temecula) shop and I fear I'll have to go through all this silliness. Crazy California. If anybody has advice or alternative scenarios I'd love to hear it. That said, for better or worse I've always been pretty careful with my taxes. If the IRS started hassling me the wife would find out about the girlfriend and the business. I hear divorce is more expensive than taxes.

    Bob.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSkyBlue  [View Original Post]
    I think very few places the girl splits the tip.

    It's almost always the case that the tip belongs to the girl and she may or may not get a piece of the house fee depending on the shop and the services offered.

    The only exception that I've seen firsthand is a Thai place (no longer around) where the girl was giving some of her tips to the boss. But I think there was repaying of some personal debts going on and it was not the standard practice.

    I had known the owner for a couple years and would usually chat with her about Thailand for a few minutes after a session. It was during this time when the girl that had just taking care of me came in and handed some money to the boss. In response to my curious look, she just said she " give back".

  8. #14138

    Where is this JW?

    I hear a lot of this JW and W spa. Could someone please elaborate.

    Quote Originally Posted by MPPro  [View Original Post]
    She is late twenties probably early thirties. She is eager for your Money LOL. Prob about 5'6 D's (sorry not good on the size thing) . This place does rush as they make more money on thirty min sessions. Its is a high volume place. She is a pro so not sure you can get away with the cam thing. Daisy in CV has bunch of Latinas rotating thru but not real lookers. If you really want a good experience try Hong Kong in TJ you will get some real lookers and the cam thing is no issue there. . JW has some cuties but they are all girls its basically fast food for p*ssy and you can spend upwards of $$ - 4.

  9. #14137
    Quote Originally Posted by MPPro  [View Original Post]
    Older provider FS for $60 not bad. Is this Shanghai Massage you went too?
    Engineer Massage.

  10. #14136
    Quote Originally Posted by GdAloha  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by the Spa off Dagget last week, only two girls working. Ended up getting Angel who I saw sometime last year. I would say she's in her 40's or 50's. 40 for the hhr. The age is mostly predominant in her face, because her body looks like a 25-35 year old. Average massage and services offered after the flip. Got the typical FS package and ended up exploding a little to much and got it all over her dress. Had a nice time and would consider repeating, but prefer the younger ones. Out the door $60.
    Older provider FS for $60 not bad. Is this Shanghai Massage you went too?

  11. #14135

    Daggett

    Stopped by the Spa off Dagget last week, only two girls working. Ended up getting Angel who I saw sometime last year. I would say she's in her 40's or 50's. 40 for the hhr. The age is mostly predominant in her face, because her body looks like a 25-35 year old. Average massage and services offered after the flip. Got the typical FS package and ended up exploding a little to much and got it all over her dress. Had a nice time and would consider repeating, but prefer the younger ones. Out the door $60.

  12. #14134

    Garnet Spa

    Quote Originally Posted by JDome  [View Original Post]
    Any info on this place? Next to Cali Bahn.

    Garnet spa.

    Garnet avenue.
    This is a standard HE (at least it was pre-pandemic), nothing beyond that. Okay in a pinch, but I don't think I'd go back what with other options.

  13. #14133

    North county MP's

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDago  [View Original Post]
    First time in Vista. Didn't find much here so I tried Rubmaps. There was a really old review about Orient Natural Treatment on Sycamore (close to my hotel) so I took a shot. Really good and I mean really good massage (she went by the name Allison) and that was it. Darted out the door while saying "massagy finished". Now since the massage was that good, I actually was ok about it.

    Will someone please recommend a place that has fun endings instead of the one I got?

    Thanks.

    MD.
    Well I've never had much luck in vista but if you are willing to travel just a bit east of vista there are a couple of spots in San Marcos where HE is almost a guarantee. Look up Sakata Thai or AA relax spa. 30 min for $40 plus tip. I usually tip $40. If you just want HE go to AA but if you are looking for an actual massage plus a HE then try Sakata. If you are looking for FS there's a spot in Fallbrook that I know of but it's a bit of a drive from vista.

  14. #14132
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDago  [View Original Post]
    First time in Vista. Didn't find much here so I tried Rubmaps. There was a really old review about Orient Natural Treatment on Sycamore (close to my hotel) so I took a shot. Really good and I mean really good massage (she went by the name Allison) and that was it. Darted out the door while saying "massagy finished". Now since the massage was that good, I actually was ok about it.

    Will someone please recommend a place that has fun endings instead of the one I got?

    Thanks.

    MD.
    Hard to find good places north county ever since few years back they busted a bunch of joints in Escondido. If that far north I would just drive an additional 30 miles go Temecula. There a lot of shops are FS and better in my opinion.

  15. #14131

    Oriental Natural Treatment

    First time in Vista. Didn't find much here so I tried Rubmaps. There was a really old review about Orient Natural Treatment on Sycamore (close to my hotel) so I took a shot. Really good and I mean really good massage (she went by the name Allison) and that was it. Darted out the door while saying "massagy finished". Now since the massage was that good, I actually was ok about it.

    Will someone please recommend a place that has fun endings instead of the one I got?

    Thanks.

    MD.

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