"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Islaned13** · 03-25-21 17:58

So I have been browsing the SB seen just upgraded my SA account. My question is about putting a public picture up?? Have SO and concerned about it? Do you get more traction with a photo or is it a bad idea. I have seen a couple girls on SA that are on other (escort site).

Thanks,

13.

**Wysiwug** · 03-25-21 01:23

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

You're dealing with a different group of SBs than me, its my fest. I am in southern California, and I am trying to have ongoing SBs. This has worked fine in that circumstance. With dozens of girls. I would never do that with an UTR escort, what a lot of guys in the local Richmond market seem to be doing. For a long time, this thread has been the de facto national thread for sugaring, and masters from all over would post here. That is why there is an archive of all our best moves. Perhaps that has lapsed, and I should just stick to my own area.

Good bless you my friend with having So Cali sb opportunities. RVA can be fickle market for shopping.

**TheHobbyLobby** · 03-23-21 13:13

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I have posted elsewhere about TracFone. It is fantastic. Literally $20 per 3 months. Put Google Voice on the phone, you've got even more security, and can access texts from the web.

THanks Far I always appreciate your help man!

**Ernest Ll** · 03-23-21 12:50

Originally Posted by Wysiwug [View Original Post]

Wow. Having a SB book a room? Really? Please I'm not flaming you, we can agree to disagree but I've never had a you /25 want to book a room spending funds hedging on if you show up on not. Depending on the class of SB they are not going have a CC or funds to front a room, just saying. Even if we did the pre-FC meet and greet and gave her the funds, I would be still be Leary about if she would take the money and go dark. You got to be a SD and take charge, that's what they want, c'mon.

I'm married, so I don't need / want the paper trail of having; my name in hotel records or risk being spotted in the time it takes to check in (have had enough close calls just walking through a lobby or parking lot).

1) many of the 20 somethings are not at all concerned about OPSec and will share their real names if it means getting laid and paying off debt. So I sit with them at coffee, booke the room in their name and pay directly using prepaid card or paypal my debit card from my sugar account. No $$ in their hands to run off with.

2) Sams sells hotels.com gift cards. I text them the GC # and they book the room. They have little use for a hotels.com gift card if they are trying to scam you.

3) The longer you knw them, the higher the level of trust. I've often paypalled the $$ for the room shortly before meeting so they aren't out the $$. Only once did I lose out the hotel money -- but it was the 3rd time we were meeting, so she sucked a lot of cock and took it in the ass twice just to get an extra $100.

4) If you use an OTA like hotels.com, you often don't need to have the SB use their credit card at check in, and most who have a job or are college students have one they can use. They only charge for any actual charges or damage.

**FarFarAway** · 03-23-21 11:44

Originally Posted by TheHobbyLobby [View Original Post]

I completely agree that burner phone is the way to go. I did buy one a while back but the thing I hate about those is that that your minutes expire and I don't use the burner phone that much. But I guess safety is more important. I just wish those minutes wouldn't expire so quickly.

I have posted elsewhere about TracFone. It is fantastic. Literally $20 per 3 months. Put Google Voice on the phone, you've got even more security, and can access texts from the web.

**FarFarAway** · 03-23-21 11:43

Originally Posted by Wysiwug [View Original Post]

Wow. Having a SB book a room? Really? Please I'm not flaming you, we can agree to disagree but I've never had a you /25 want to book a room spending funds hedging on if you show up on not. Depending on the class of SB they are not going have a CC or funds to front a room, just saying. Even if we did the pre-FC meet and greet and gave her the funds, I would be still be Leary about if she would take the money and go dark. You got to be a SD and take charge, that's what they want, c'mon.

You're dealing with a different group of SBs than me, its my fest. I am in southern California, and I am trying to have ongoing SBs. This has worked fine in that circumstance. With dozens of girls. I would never do that with an UTR escort, what a lot of guys in the local Richmond market seem to be doing. For a long time, this thread has been the de facto national thread for sugaring, and masters from all over would post here. That is why there is an archive of all our best moves. Perhaps that has lapsed, and I should just stick to my own area.

**TheHobbyLobby** · 03-23-21 08:54

Originally Posted by Wysiwug [View Original Post]

Umm. Minutes will not expire if you do it this way to keep anonymity from a SO or a nosy SB / escort. If you don't have a problem having two phones; this is how it works, its' simple. You purchase a gift card with cash; go to a big box retailer, purchase the phone with the gift card (don't purchase the gift card from where you purchase the phone) that best suits your needs with the gift card, preferably prepaid smart phone that has text / app / sim card capabilities, set it up. When minutes start to expire, renew your phone with a cash purchased gift card. To add a layer security add an App like text now with another number; when you decide to go to voice conversation give your burner number; texting burns less minutes than voice.and if your situation should go south; smash the phone and start over again. Remember to shred the gift card after using it..

Thanks Brother, I really appreciate the help. I have followed your advice. I did get gift card, with cash. Then I purchased a prepaid phone with gift card and used cash to purchase the minutes / card. I don't mind using two phones espeically considering that I was able to find my real information on line by using my GV number. That was a shock to me. Stay safe brothers.

**Wysiwug** · 03-23-21 00:21

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

Take a look at the archive of this thread. That is what it's for. Information that really doesn't vary. I have a few posts. I use hotelsbyday.com, but they have to have a participating property in your area. I happen to have one that is perfect. High quality, always empty, $100 for 9 am - 3 pm. I get the baby to book it and check in so I don't have to worry. I give her cash at the FC.

IDK any (decent) hotel these days that does not require DL and CC. I have taken a risk by booking a room myself with a misspelling of my last name and using a business credit card for the checkin, and then settling up in cash on checkout. This actually results in NO charge appearing on my CC statement (that is, it is not a charge and a credit). My SO doesn't see the card statement, just in case it did, but the problem is, I have to really sweat that statement showing up in my mailbox for a while after. Once you've done that for a SB, she'll usually get the room after that.

Wow. Having a SB book a room? Really? Please I'm not flaming you, we can agree to disagree but I've never had a you /25 want to book a room spending funds hedging on if you show up on not. Depending on the class of SB they are not going have a CC or funds to front a room, just saying. Even if we did the pre-FC meet and greet and gave her the funds, I would be still be Leary about if she would take the money and go dark. You got to be a SD and take charge, that's what they want, c'mon.

**Wysiwug** · 03-22-21 23:48

Originally Posted by TheHobbyLobby [View Original Post]

I completely agree that burner phone is the way to go. I did buy one a while back but the thing I hate about those is that that your minutes expire and I don't use the burner phone that much. But I guess safety is more important. I just wish those minutes wouldn't expire so quickly.

Umm. Minutes will not expire if you do it this way to keep anonymity from a SO or a nosy SB / escort. If you don't have a problem having two phones; this is how it works, its' simple. You purchase a gift card with cash; go to a big box retailer, purchase the phone with the gift card (don't purchase the gift card from where you purchase the phone) that best suits your needs with the gift card, preferably prepaid smart phone that has text / app / sim card capabilities, set it up. When minutes start to expire, renew your phone with a cash purchased gift card. To add a layer security add an App like text now with another number; when you decide to go to voice conversation give your burner number; texting burns less minutes than voice.and if your situation should go south; smash the phone and start over again. Remember to shred the gift card after using it..

**TheHobbyLobby** · 03-22-21 23:00

Originally Posted by Wysiwug [View Original Post]

Is the way to go if you want almost complete anonymity without compromising your day to day phone. I know having two phone maybe a pain but it's worth it. Google for more information what works for you.

I completely agree that burner phone is the way to go. I did buy one a while back but the thing I hate about those is that that your minutes expire and I don't use the burner phone that much. But I guess safety is more important. I just wish those minutes wouldn't expire so quickly.

**FarFarAway** · 03-22-21 22:25

Originally Posted by RickFlair [View Original Post]

First steps into the pool (but not new to the board) so looking for a couple of tips if anybody has them:

Suggestions on most discrete way to get a hotel room locally in west end just for the day? From say 9 am until mid afternoon?

Prefer not to get bottom of barrel place, want to pay cash, plan to use form of I'd (passport) to check in that doesn't have address on it.

Suggestions?

Take a look at the archive of this thread. That is what it's for. Information that really doesn't vary. I have a few posts. I use hotelsbyday.com, but they have to have a participating property in your area. I happen to have one that is perfect. High quality, always empty, $100 for 9 am - 3 pm. I get the baby to book it and check in so I don't have to worry. I give her cash at the FC.

IDK any (decent) hotel these days that does not require DL and CC. I have taken a risk by booking a room myself with a misspelling of my last name and using a business credit card for the checkin, and then settling up in cash on checkout. This actually results in NO charge appearing on my CC statement (that is, it is not a charge and a credit). My SO doesn't see the card statement, just in case it did, but the problem is, I have to really sweat that statement showing up in my mailbox for a while after. Once you've done that for a SB, she'll usually get the room after that.

**Wysiwug** · 03-22-21 20:48

Originally Posted by TheHobbyLobby [View Original Post]

So I take that back. I did find my real information using my GV number. I have to admit that is my bone head mistake. So looking for some guidance. I created another gmail account not using my real information. I can link my hobbyt gmail account to new GV# number but is it safe to link my GV# to my real phone number? I don't want to have to buy a new phone for the hobby.

And BTW having a pool is a big plus.

**Wysiwug** · 03-22-21 20:43

Originally Posted by RickFlair [View Original Post]

First steps into the pool (but not new to the board) so looking for a couple of tips if anybody has them:

Suggestions on most discrete way to get a hotel room locally in west end just for the day? From say 9 am until mid afternoon?

Prefer not to get bottom of barrel place, want to pay cash, plan to use form of I'd (passport) to check in that doesn't have address on it.

Suggestions?

Hey Rickster. Here ya go dayuse.com plug in 23229 with lots of room and time opportunities in Westend RVA. Airport area has a few. The only thing; you can make a reservation on-line but have to check-in in person at the desk with a credit card. I'm not sure if they take cash but if they do most likely they will want a valid I'd. Hope this helps!!

**Wysiwug** · 03-22-21 18:20

Originally Posted by Makethescoop [View Original Post]

Your current phone may be dual sim capable. If so just get a prepaid sim card and install it. Tie the prepaid number to your new google voice number.

Is the way to go if you want almost complete anonymity without compromising your day to day phone. I know having two phone maybe a pain but it's worth it. Google for more information what works for you.