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  1. #698
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    Posts: 3468

    Hard Feelings And Attitude Towards Women.

    Sounds like some of you guys got your heart broken over a provider or girlfriend.

  2. #697

    Suburban MILF with a minivan and a paddle?

    Not sure where else to post this question, but any suggestions on where to find Doms? Not really into the "dungeon scene" Doms that seem to post ads. More looking for maybe a disciplinarian type. BDSM without the dungeon. A nice suburban MILF with a minivan and a paddle would be just perfect. LOL. Looking to role play out my teenage baby sitting years from long ago. Seems like this has to be a thing, but having trouble getting started finding resources / boards for it.

  3. #696
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    Posts: 395

    Too much

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayp80  [View Original Post]
    I don't really talk to Uber drivers, the ladies that clean my house or waitresses, they have a job and I'm a customer we really could care less about each other so a fake conversation is pointless in my opinion. I feel the same about providers, I'm dude #4 for the day and as soon as I leave and that door closes they're texting dude #5 that she's ready. Try to reverse the situation, imagine you are banging 4-5 random girls a day every day for a year, think about how desensitized you'd become. Think about all the tits you'd see, all the BJs you'd receive you'd get to a point where it was all a blur and the only thing on your mind would be getting her out your room so you can finish watching the game or finish your sandwich.
    Too much of anything isn't good. I don't care who you are.

  4. #695

    Treat her nice

    I've always been amused by the phrase that guys post during a review: "Treat her nice and she'll treat you well. " I find the phrase to be interesting because most guys who aren't assholes are already going to be nice. They might not tip or bring her a Valentine's present but they're going to pay the rate, exchange some minor pleasantries, get into whatever was agreed upon, chit chat or say thanks, and split. A guy who is an asshole isn't going to all of a sudden change because someone else said to treat her nice.

  5. #694
    Senior Member


    Posts: 3468

    Reverse Role.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayp80  [View Original Post]
    Try to reverse the situation, imagine you are banging 4-5 random girls a day every day for a year, think about how desensitized you'd become. Think about all the tits you'd see, all the BJs you'd receive you'd get to a point where it was all a blur and the only thing on your mind would be getting her out your room so you can finish watching the game or finish your sandwich.
    Would be nice if girls paid us for sex.

  6. #693

    Tough question

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayp80  [View Original Post]
    I don't really talk to Uber drivers, the ladies that clean my house or waitresses, they have a job and I'm a customer we really could care less about each other so a fake conversation is pointless in my opinion. I feel the same about providers, I'm dude #4 for the day and as soon as I leave and that door closes they're texting dude #5 that she's ready. Try to reverse the situation, imagine you are banging 4-5 random girls a day every day for a year, think about how desensitized you'd become. Think about all the tits you'd see, all the BJs you'd receive you'd get to a point where it was all a blur and the only thing on your mind would be getting her out your room so you can finish watching the game or finish your sandwich.
    My own humanity tells me to care enough the girls to treat them decently regardless of what they think of me. The only thing is not to care for them so much that you forget to protect yourself. Like it or not, most of them care less about you than you do about them. There are three issues. Most of them are in it for the cash. They are not looking for love, not from guys that are paying them to suck their dicks. That leads to number 2. For most girls anymore, their number one love is their illicit drug of choice. It makes many of them do anything to get ahold of their next hit. Some could win Oscars for pretending they are in love with you while trying to figure how to get more cash from you. That leads to issue number three. There are girls out there that would steal your false teeth when you weren't looking, no matter how much you think they love you. I don't disagree with the guy that says he treats them nicely. I only hope he remembers that they want from him whatever they can get that will get them their next hit, a room for the night, to keep the boyfriend from beating them, to pay the phone bill or whatever else comes before loving you. I don't even know how many of them even like men any more since most have been abused in some way, many of them multiple times. They will love you as long as you pay them. There are more than a few that would just as soon stick a blade in you. So try to remember who they are before getting too caring.

  7. #692
    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop69  [View Original Post]
    I have talked to many of my friends in this hobby and they say that I'm wrong because if I'm paying a SW for services I'm only concerned about my happiness, I am not concerned if she orgasms or not I'm honestly not putting in any additional effort it's her job to get me up and get me off that the expectations of our arrangement I'm not doing anything to enhance her experience not fingering her, kissing or anything this is not an emotional connection this is business, my thought pattern s how many of us work from companies that care if your work is fulfilling or fun that care about your general happiness, they want productivity and that's what I expect from a contractor, I'm paying you for a service provide said service. What do you guys think?
    I don't really talk to Uber drivers, the ladies that clean my house or waitresses, they have a job and I'm a customer we really could care less about each other so a fake conversation is pointless in my opinion. I feel the same about providers, I'm dude #4 for the day and as soon as I leave and that door closes they're texting dude #5 that she's ready. Try to reverse the situation, imagine you are banging 4-5 random girls a day every day for a year, think about how desensitized you'd become. Think about all the tits you'd see, all the BJs you'd receive you'd get to a point where it was all a blur and the only thing on your mind would be getting her out your room so you can finish watching the game or finish your sandwich.

  8. #691

    Clarification

    Quote Originally Posted by Trogon  [View Original Post]
    I have always found if I'm nice to them it comes back to me in a positive way.

    Not all the time but I've had my share of discounted service or something along that line because I made sure they got off.

    Or at least I think they did.

    I'm trained in massages and I've ended up trading services.

    Not a lot but enough.

    I hear a lot of guys are jerks to some providers and they remember.

    In the end they are human. I just don't get attached or get stupid like send money.

    Thsts going too far in the end it's a business transaction.
    Well I will always be polite and respectful no reason to be a dick however I'm not trying to make a friend honestly I just want her to do her job that I'm paying her for, the problem is a lot of guys get caught in the cone of BS and after a while the girls tend to slack off on service from what I'm seen because you're a "nice guy" and they begin to get too comfortable.

    Frankly I come in exchange pleasantries verify the details and we get to it I don't need to hear about her day her trials and tribulations or whatever sob story she's selling honestly let get it done because there's a 99% chance I got other shit to do.

  9. #690

    My 2 cents

    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop69  [View Original Post]
    I have talked to many of my friends in this hobby and they say that I'm wrong because if I'm paying a SW for services I'm only concerned about my happiness, I am not concerned if she orgasms or not I'm honestly not putting in any additional effort it's her job to get me up and get me off that the expectations of our arrangement I'm not doing anything to enhance her experience not fingering her, kissing or anything this is not an emotional connection this is business, my thought pattern s how many of us work from companies that care if your work is fulfilling or fun that care about your general happiness, they want productivity and that's what I expect from a contractor, I'm paying you for a service provide said service. What do you guys think?
    I have always found if I'm nice to them it comes back to me in a positive way.

    Not all the time but I've had my share of discounted service or something along that line because I made sure they got off.

    Or at least I think they did.

    I'm trained in massages and I've ended up trading services.

    Not a lot but enough.

    I hear a lot of guys are jerks to some providers and they remember.

    In the end they are human. I just don't get attached or get stupid like send money.

    Thsts going too far in the end it's a business transaction.

  10. #689
    I get what your friends are saying. It's definitely a safer way to proceed.

    I personally like kissing, GFE / DFK is a big enhancer for me. And I get some sort of serious enjoyment and / or ego kick out of getting them off, when they're not faking it, which some do and some don't.

    The feeling of an emotional connection is very nice, but it's *VERY* dangerous. It's generally been a mistake for me, and I think most others. Most of the time, probably the vast majority of the time, it's not real, and virtually any of these girls can go full-retard at any time. Some are vicious, some are just fucked up, either way it can be painful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop69  [View Original Post]
    I have talked to many of my friends in this hobby and they say that I'm wrong because if I'm paying a SW for services I'm only concerned about my happiness, I am not concerned if she orgasms or not I'm honestly not putting in any additional effort it's her job to get me up and get me off that the expectations of our arrangement I'm not doing anything to enhance her experience not fingering her, kissing or anything this is not an emotional connection this is business, my thought pattern s how many of us work from companies that care if your work is fulfilling or fun that care about your general happiness, they want productivity and that's what I expect from a contractor, I'm paying you for a service provide said service. What do you guys think?

  11. #688

    What does she want?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop69  [View Original Post]
    I have talked to many of my friends in this hobby and they say that I'm wrong because if I'm paying a SW for services I'm only concerned about my happiness, I am not concerned if she orgasms or not I'm honestly not putting in any additional effort it's her job to get me up and get me off that the expectations of our arrangement I'm not doing anything to enhance her experience not fingering her, kissing or anything this is not an emotional connection this is business, my thought pattern s how many of us work from companies that care if your work is fulfilling or fun that care about your general happiness, they want productivity and that's what I expect from a contractor, I'm paying you for a service provide said service. What do you guys think?
    I've had a few all time favorites in my day. And I'm sure they "liked" me because I was no trouble, friendly, clean, and a consistent repeat customer. And with that in mind I've gotten more from them. Good for me. But I've never had one that got emotionally attached, wanted me to please her, called me Daddy. I really think they prefer that. And yes, I've had a few ask me if I was married and when I said No came back with "You want to get married?" Those don't end up on my ATF list.

  12. #687
    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop69  [View Original Post]
    I have talked to many of my friends in this hobby and they say that I'm wrong because if I'm paying a SW for services I'm only concerned about my happiness, I am not concerned if she orgasms or not I'm honestly not putting in any additional effort it's her job to get me up and get me off that the expectations of our arrangement I'm not doing anything to enhance her experience not fingering her, kissing or anything this is not an emotional connection this is business, my thought pattern s how many of us work from companies that care if your work is fulfilling or fun that care about your general happiness, they want productivity and that's what I expect from a contractor, I'm paying you for a service provide said service. What do you guys think?
    Many men get off on fingering her or kissing her or eating the pussy. All that can be for the man's satisfaction as well. Nothing wrong with that.

  13. #686

    Another question

    I have talked to many of my friends in this hobby and they say that I'm wrong because if I'm paying a SW for services I'm only concerned about my happiness, I am not concerned if she orgasms or not I'm honestly not putting in any additional effort it's her job to get me up and get me off that the expectations of our arrangement I'm not doing anything to enhance her experience not fingering her, kissing or anything this is not an emotional connection this is business, my thought pattern s how many of us work from companies that care if your work is fulfilling or fun that care about your general happiness, they want productivity and that's what I expect from a contractor, I'm paying you for a service provide said service. What do you guys think?

  14. #685

    To each their own

    You can offer whatever amount you're comfortable with and she will either accept or decline it. I doubt that you will find a decent escort, would be a 1 and done / out the door, for $200. Yes, the SA gals may have their issues, but for the most part are normal GND types and not meeting with every guy that makes an inquiry. That in itself will drive up the offers. I would guess that any of the SA gals that are doing the $200/ meet are seeing multiple men, like an escort meet, or those in the less desired group because of looks, size or issues. It can all boil down to the looks, demeanor of the POT and quality, duration and activities of the meet that you're looking for. As those things increase, the allowance increases. Those are also affected by the guys looks, personality and how suave he is that can make him more desirable to the women.

  15. #684

    You are confusing yourself buddy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinurso  [View Original Post]
    The reason Apple sells iPhones for $1000 is because they believe people are willing to pay $1000.

    The reason girls on SA say yes to $400 and no to $200 is because men are willing to pay $400. You can't tell Apple that their iPhone only costs $200 to make so they should be more than happy if you offer them $400 instead of $1000. It's the same thing with girls on SA.

    Capitalism is not about a fair price for what you offer, it's maximizing your profit.
    You need to take some express Economics 101 course! You just repeated what I said. In a Capitalist world YOU set the price regardless because you think it's worth it. On your previous post you said it has nothing to do with being worth it. Make up your mind buddy. You are mixing the concept or have no idea about capitalist. Plus it has nothing to do with the point I tried to make. Happy hunting buddy!

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