"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Jcn1965]

Created a profile on SA randomly and the amount of traffic I was getting to my profile was shocking. I usually do decent on dating apps, but I was getting visited or messaged by multiple women interested throughout the day. Was about to message one I was interested in too and saw that you need a membership to do so and the costs of it. It was the most bummed I have been in a while, because they were all attractive compared to what you might see in the ads. I do okay for myself, but man 99 dollars a month for membership is wild to me.

I said same while back. I use several dating apps tinder BLK etc and I probably get just as much out of it as I would with SA. I have hooked up with 4 so far 3 with BLK one with tinder. Being a older white guy on BLK has made me stand out and they know exactly what I'm looking for and they are usually straight up about what they want. It's worked for me and it's free LOL. Be safe.

[Truth777]

Let your membership lapse and see how many messages and visits you suddenly get.

Created a profile on SA randomly and the amount of traffic I was getting to my profile was shocking. I usually do decent on dating apps, but I was getting visited or messaged by multiple women interested throughout the day. Was about to message one I was interested in too and saw that you need a membership to do so and the costs of it. It was the most bummed I have been in a while, because they were all attractive compared to what you might see in the ads. I do okay for myself, but man 99 dollars a month for membership is wild to me.

[FarFarAway]

Let your membership lapse and see how many messages and visits you suddenly get.

Well, I disagree. We're both veterans (here at least), our experiences couldn't be more different. I have been on SA for 3+ years, I have two profiles that have been on there for that time. I keep them because I think they are 'validated' from SA's perspective, I don't have to worry about getting banned (I am also super careful about what I say to girls on there). There are lots of people running into big problems with getting banned, it is a real pain to recover from that (changing essentially everything one does for their sugar identity).

Perhaps I am left alone also because I don't look like a gullible newbie. I deactivate my profiles when I am not paid up, just so I don't get a bunch of contacts I can't do anything with, and at all times, I keep my profiles hidden from search. This prevents the overseas picture sellers or girls looking for green cards from even knowing I exist. If I go to a girls page, based on my local search, they can see my profile, however.

[Grafenberg]

I am also skeptical of this. I have frequented these boards for several years, I have heard sour grapes of this ilk, but no real evidence. There are plenty enough of people making profiles on their own, for their own benefit. Personally, I always keep my profile hidden from search, this prevents a scammer from contacting me, but if I go to a girls' page, she can see my profile. This cuts way down on random contacts from other continents.

Let your membership lapse and see how many messages and visits you suddenly get.

[BobLobLa]

Strikes me as a stripper. https://www.seeking.com/member/d4d24...1-5dad1741d3cf.

Worried she doesn't show the body. Chubby face - https://www.seeking.com/member/b9d14...5-21ae1c12099f.

Looks best in profile shot. Surprised her private pics don't show off her legs — https://www.seeking.com/member/b1545...-3ae635584d73. Single mom with sole custody so only nights and weekends when she can get a sitter.

Love her look, but not very responsive - https://www.seeking.com/member/fc6f9...c-4f6c8919ec4b.

[BobLobLa]

These are fun. I always say "I checked out your wish list" and rattle off a few items of note.

"How impressed are you?

They usually don't get the joke.

[Tidad]

I agree with this. What I don't understand is how they can ban people with no explanation and no refund. I can see not wanting to give explanations to help people learn how to avoid a ban in the future, but they should at least refund the balance of their unused membership.

How can any business take your money for a service, refuse to provide that service and keep the money? So unethical and makes them liable for a class action suit, if someone had thr guts to go public with it.

You are going to have a long wait on that lawsuit and there are many circumstances where rule breaking (even if it's only in the opinion of the business) means you lose your money. Have you ever been kicked out of a hotel for being too loud? Even if you've only been there an hour, your money is GONE. If you accepted the user agreement by joining and paying, that money is never coming back.

[FarFarAway]

I agree with this. What I don't understand is how they can ban people with no explanation and no refund. I can see not wanting to give explanations to help people learn how to avoid a ban in the future, but they should at least refund the balance of their unused membership.

How can any business take your money for a service, refuse to provide that service and keep the money? So unethical and makes them liable for a class action suit, if someone had thr guts to go public with it.

Who is going to opt in to the class? That's a dynamic that is applied for essentially every sexual service covered, there's a vulnerability of us as consumers simply because we don't want to be exposed as one.

[FarFarAway]

There are rumors that they even pay girls (or guys) to put up fake profiles and answer a few DMs to make it seem like there is this huge surplus of hot SBs. Not sure how accurate the rumor is, but it would align fairly well with some of my experiences.

I am also skeptical of this. I have frequented these boards for several years, I have heard sour grapes of this ilk, but no real evidence. There are plenty enough of people making profiles on their own, for their own benefit. Personally, I always keep my profile hidden from search, this prevents a scammer from contacting me, but if I go to a girls' page, she can see my profile. This cuts way down on random contacts from other continents.

[EasyGoingJ]

Wow! That does not look like 500 material there in my book.

Taking a look at her wishlist, quite an assortment of toys, so I guess she's happy taking the " selfcare " route.

[Shampoo55]

How can any business take your money for a service, refuse to provide that service and keep the money? So unethical and makes them liable for a class action suit, if someone had thr guts to go public with it.

Its called put all of those egregious items / terms in the TOS that nobody reads, but which act like a binding legal contract. WE write the rules and you agree to follow them. Doubt any reputable attorney would take the case after a good read of the TOS.

[Madaboutmax]

I agree with this. What I don't understand is how they can ban people with no explanation and no refund. I can see not wanting to give explanations to help people learn how to avoid a ban in the future, but they should at least refund the balance of their unused membership.

How can any business take your money for a service, refuse to provide that service and keep the money? So unethical and makes them liable for a class action suit, if someone had thr guts to go public with it.

Face it: what really terrifies Brandon is having his entire enterprise, and all it's affiliates, completely shut down, permanently. And it will probably happen eventually, which he realizes, so I'm sure he wants to ride the gravy train as long as he can make it last. Putting an aggressive "screening" system in place is meant to project the appearance of being a good corporate citizen and stave off the authorities. Cheating a few of his customers out of their subscriber dues is the least of his concerns, especially since very few will complain.

[Madaboutmax]

I doubt SA pays people to put up fake profiles. There are plenty of scammers, rinsers, online only, platonic only, feet pic sellers, findom, femdom, etc profiles already that they don't need to pile on.

Social Media encourages enough "bad actors" to create profiles already without the additional help.

There are rumors that they even pay girls (or guys) to put up fake profiles and answer a few DMs to make it seem like there is this huge surplus of hot SBs. Not sure how accurate the rumor is, but it would align fairly well with some of my experiences.

[Mike77]

It's soooo interesting to see how quickly they ban guys (the paying customers) while at the same time letting the same scammers go on for months and months and months. SA really has their priorities straight.

There are rumors that they even pay girls (or guys) to put up fake profiles and answer a few DMs to make it seem like there is this huge surplus of hot SBs. Not sure how accurate the rumor is, but it would align fairly well with some of my experiences.

[CarloRogue]

It's soooo interesting to see how quickly they ban guys (the paying customers) while at the same time letting the same scammers go on for months and months and months. SA really has their priorities straight.

Face it: what really terrifies Brandon is having his entire enterprise, and all it's affiliates, completely shut down, permanently. And it will probably happen eventually, which he realizes, so I'm sure he wants to ride the gravy train as long as he can make it last. Putting an aggressive "screening" system in place is meant to project the appearance of being a good corporate citizen and stave off the authorities. Cheating a few of his customers out of their subscriber dues is the least of his concerns, especially since very few will complain.