"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[DeterF]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Lots of impersonal contact with people she can't connect with.

Single mother.

Now:

Be a nice guy.

Chat her up for a few days before suggesting a meeting. Don't even mention sex unless she brings it up.

Don't discuss money. If she goes straight to the money conversation, she isn't the right one. Keep looking.

Take her someplace nice, a sit-down restaurant that requires reservations where you order from a menu. Order something mid to upper price from the menu so she understands she can do the same.

Encourage her to talk about herself, her life, her goals. No vulgar talk, no bad language. Be a gentleman.

Send / take her home with no discussion of sex.

Send her a note right away that you had a great time.

Wait a day or two, then suggest an overnight at the beach, in the mountains, something that sounds exotic to a woman who's never been spoiled..

I started on SA at the end of 2010, before there were scammers and a lot of media attention. I was 49, and hooked up with a beautiful, smart, fun 21 year old. We met at a nice restaurant, and I did not plan or expect us to hook-up immediately, but there was an awesome connection. Turned out she lived about 4 miles from me, and for about 1200 a month or so, I saw her several times a week, (was married; wife traveled; no kids). We went out to see music, ate. She was awesome, and I am still in touch with her. She has her own business, and lives in FL. Spoke with her 2 weeks ago, she might come visit next weekend. The X and I were relocating back to DC, and she came up there twice.

The next girl, I met in DC. She had never done this before, and was super cautious. We had great email discussions, and I liked her so much that I waited. We exchanged emails for two months (I had a couple of meet and greets during that time). Finally she said she wants to meet. We had two brunches together, and one date at a bar, and then the 4th time, off to the races. She was 23. She was working at a bar in Georgetown and a student at University of Maryland; she was smart; cool; needed help, and was the cute GND. So, we'd meet a couple of times or so a month. She would dress beautiful; we'd go out, and bar to the hotel. We took a weekend blowout trip here to Atlanta; went to the Euclid Ave Yacht Club, Vortex and then back to the high-end hotel, next night out for steak and Clermont Lounge. The issue with her was that there were too many feelings forming, and she said if I was single, she would be all in. We are in touch; she has a Master's degree now and is in practice as therapist in Philly. I woulda married this chick in a heartbeat.

The last and best was a freshman at school in VA, and I was preparing to leave DC finally time to posit up with the X, and had kept in touch with this woman. Short story was there was a 33 year age difference; it was like she was almost 40 years old in spirits. We lived together here as a real couple from 2014-2018, and both our families accepted our relationship. The age difference made it unsustainable, and nature's cruel trick for me is that she by far was the best "fit" for me in my entire life. The time finally came, and she's 26 now; we are close like family and still get together, and I am sure we'll always be close friends.

I chose women that I would "date." The one woman in DC had very strict communication boundaries when we were not together, and I totally respected her. After I left DC, she tried the SD thing a few times, and messaged me on FB telling me that no man had ever treated her so respectfully, kindly, etc. She wrote a very sweet and loving email.

I think it's true, if you find a gem on SA, and she is really is great, you could be in for a serious amount of fun in a lot of ways. I treated these women no differently than I would a date under a "normal" scenario. I chose women who really needed help; who were really striving to succeed and had goals; who weren't looking for Gucci bags, but really to have support for their goals, and have a chance to do something special. The woman in DC loved the Beatles and Paul McCartney. He came to DC, ad I texted her one day, telling her that I have two tickets, and they are good seats. She called me right way almost crying. She could have never afforded this on her own.

Not sure people think about how much certain women really appreciate this; you can literally help them advance their lives. Believe me, they'll never forget you. I like to help people, and sure it was certainly for me to have that fun, but I wanted to leave these women seeing how they should be respected, appreciated and supported. They would have all done it without me, I am sure; I feel so much satisfaction that there three women have succeeded. OF course, I played only a tiny role in their lives, with the exception of the one with whom I lived.

[LoriTruck]

She hit me up 3 days ago, wants 350 per meet but will probably go lower, she doesn't host and says she wants something consistent. She was extremely anxious to meet up this weekend, I told her I had major plans because of the super bowl so I couldn't meet.

Thanks, this helps. I have about 5 lined up this weekend but I have only about an 8 hour window. If I can do process of elimination, and skip the ones that are as high as camel couchie and don't host then I've done good.

[BadNewsBear]

https://www.seeking.com/member/79318...0-514f30e7d175

Any info? Looks familiar, as in someone reviewed her here. Got a meet and greet this weekend.

She hit me up 3 days ago, wants 350 per meet but will probably go lower, she doesn't host and says she wants something consistent. She was extremely anxious to meet up this weekend, I told her I had major plans because of the super bowl so I couldn't meet.

[LoriTruck]

https://www.seeking.com/member/79318...0-514f30e7d175

Any info? Looks familiar, as in someone reviewed her here. Got a meet and greet this weekend.

[Machintosh]

More power to you Sir. If it's pay to play, I do not have the time or patience to go through this relationship merry go round unless I'm looking to hook up with a future wife and it ain't happening anytime soon.

Half the work and effort still pays dividends. The milage WILL vary.

[Sgt Soros]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Lots of impersonal contact with people she can't connect with.

Single mother.

Now:

Be a nice guy.

Chat her up for a few days before suggesting a meeting. Don't even mention sex unless she brings it up.

Don't discuss money. If she goes straight to the money conversation, she isn't the right one. Keep looking.

Take her someplace nice, a sit-down restaurant that requires reservations where you order from a menu. Order something mid to upper price from the menu so she understands she can do the same.

Encourage her to talk about herself, her life, her goals. No vulgar talk, no bad language. Be a gentleman.

Send / take her home with no discussion of sex.

Send her a note right away that you had a great time.

Wait a day or two, then suggest an overnight at the beach, in the mountains, something that sounds exotic to a woman who's never been spoiled.

Take her shopping, plan to drop 100/200.

Slip an envelope in her purse while she's in the bathroom with 200/300.

That's sealed the deal for me every time. And 90 percent of the time it's been raw and she'll come back over and over, for several hours, overnight, weekends. I've never spent more than 250 on the visit itself. I'm 63. In 2019, I had a year-long run with a 27/28 year old single mother who came to my house once or twice a week on her days off and spent the day while her son was in school. At least once a month there was an overnight. After that I sifted through half a dozen 2-date, full-contact possibilities before settling down with a 42 year old single mom. We spend 2-3 days together every weekend and I pay her rent, take her out, overnights out of town once a month, buy things she needs.

This is a SGF relationship with someone who has a financial incentive to keep you around and keep you happy. If it doesn't work out, there isn't a messy divorce afterwards where you lose half your shit.

Or you can book a clock watching, twerking hooker who will pressure you to get it over with and out the door as soon as possible.

Sugar life isn't for everyone, and can be a lot of work to get it going, more if you're married or have an s / o you want to hang onto. Your money, your choice.

More power to you Sir. If it's pay to play, I do not have the time or patience to go through this relationship merry go round unless I'm looking to hook up with a future wife and it ain't happening anytime soon.

[Frankie14]

LOL don't think I have the patience for this.

LOL, I'm with you John. That's more time and effort than I can afford, not so much the money but the time and effort.

[BraveJohn]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Lots of impersonal contact with people she can't connect with.

Single mother.

Now:

Be a nice guy.

Chat her up for a few days before suggesting a meeting. Don't even mention sex unless she brings it up.

Don't discuss money. If she goes straight to the money conversation, she isn't the right one. Keep looking.

Take her someplace nice, a sit-down restaurant that requires reservations where you order from a menu. Order something mid to upper price from the menu so she understands she can do the same.

Encourage her to talk about herself, her life, her goals. No vulgar talk, no bad language. Be a gentleman.

Send / take her home with no discussion of sex.

Send her a note right away that you had a great time.

Wait a day or two, then suggest an overnight at the beach, in the mountains, something that sounds exotic to a woman who's never been spoiled.

Take her shopping, plan to drop 100/200.

Slip an envelope in her purse while she's in the bathroom with 200/300.

That's sealed the deal for me every time. And 90 percent of the time it's been raw and she'll come back over and over, for several hours, overnight, weekends. I've never spent more than 250 on the visit itself. I'm 63. In 2019, I had a year-long run with a 27/28 year old single mother who came to my house once or twice a week on her days off and spent the day while her son was in school. At least once a month there was an overnight. After that I sifted through half a dozen 2-date, full-contact possibilities before settling down with a 42 year old single mom. We spend 2-3 days together every weekend and I pay her rent, take her out, overnights out of town once a month, buy things she needs.

This is a SGF relationship with someone who has a financial incentive to keep you around and keep you happy. If it doesn't work out, there isn't a messy divorce afterwards where you lose half your shit.

Or you can book a clock watching, twerking hooker who will pressure you to get it over with and out the door as soon as possible.

Sugar life isn't for everyone, and can be a lot of work to get it going, more if you're married or have an s / o you want to hang onto. Your money, your choice.

LOL don't think I have the patience for this.

[NewAnonymousName]

I can drag a fat girl with an attitude out of the local bar for free.

I think JustMikey has claimed best post of the day long before lunch time. Well done.

[OopaRam]

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place.

This is a SGF relationship with someone who has a financial incentive to keep you around and keep you happy. If it doesn't work out, there isn't a messy divorce afterwards where you lose half your shit.

Hal, I appreciate your response and it describes well the SGF adventure. I can see the fun in it when one has the time and money to contribute beyond instant fleshly gratification. Great post!

[JustMikey]

You are exactly right. She must be charging by the pound. There's no other explanation for that absurd price.

I can drag a fat girl with an attitude out of the local bar for free.

[Nicky233]

You are exactly right. She must be charging by the pound. There's no other explanation for that absurd price.

They can have all the body positivity they want, it won't pay the bills. Lmao.

[NewAnonymousName]

I have been reading this forum and found that most of the providers on SA are either scam artists or overprice manipulators. For the price paid per encounter, many other options exist. I just want to know more about the merits of this type of encounters. Someone please enlighten me. PM is welcome.

It's worth it if you put in the time to search for worthwhile sugar babies. You read about the duds so often because we post about duds to help you avoid wasting the time we wasted chatting with a scammer or dime store ho.

[NewAnonymousName]

https://www.seeking.com/member/c7676...9-49705d859174

This one approached me, while certainly not my type, to each their own. Down for pretty much whatever you want, kink-friendly. However, she wants no less than 7 xx per meet, "because of COVID". I guess it's kinda like buying something at the butcher with this one.

You are exactly right. She must be charging by the pound. There's no other explanation for that absurd price.

[SeekingHead]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Great post, newbies read this as it's what most of us are after in a sugar relationship. We want a younger women to date & spend time with in exchange for some $$'s.