"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Machintosh]

More power to you Sir. If it's pay to play, I do not have the time or patience to go through this relationship merry go round unless I'm looking to hook up with a future wife and it ain't happening anytime soon.

Half the work and effort still pays dividends. The milage WILL vary.

[Sgt Soros]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Lots of impersonal contact with people she can't connect with.

Single mother.

Now:

Be a nice guy.

Chat her up for a few days before suggesting a meeting. Don't even mention sex unless she brings it up.

Don't discuss money. If she goes straight to the money conversation, she isn't the right one. Keep looking.

Take her someplace nice, a sit-down restaurant that requires reservations where you order from a menu. Order something mid to upper price from the menu so she understands she can do the same.

Encourage her to talk about herself, her life, her goals. No vulgar talk, no bad language. Be a gentleman.

Send / take her home with no discussion of sex.

Send her a note right away that you had a great time.

Wait a day or two, then suggest an overnight at the beach, in the mountains, something that sounds exotic to a woman who's never been spoiled.

Take her shopping, plan to drop 100/200.

Slip an envelope in her purse while she's in the bathroom with 200/300.

That's sealed the deal for me every time. And 90 percent of the time it's been raw and she'll come back over and over, for several hours, overnight, weekends. I've never spent more than 250 on the visit itself. I'm 63. In 2019, I had a year-long run with a 27/28 year old single mother who came to my house once or twice a week on her days off and spent the day while her son was in school. At least once a month there was an overnight. After that I sifted through half a dozen 2-date, full-contact possibilities before settling down with a 42 year old single mom. We spend 2-3 days together every weekend and I pay her rent, take her out, overnights out of town once a month, buy things she needs.

This is a SGF relationship with someone who has a financial incentive to keep you around and keep you happy. If it doesn't work out, there isn't a messy divorce afterwards where you lose half your shit.

Or you can book a clock watching, twerking hooker who will pressure you to get it over with and out the door as soon as possible.

Sugar life isn't for everyone, and can be a lot of work to get it going, more if you're married or have an s / o you want to hang onto. Your money, your choice.

More power to you Sir. If it's pay to play, I do not have the time or patience to go through this relationship merry go round unless I'm looking to hook up with a future wife and it ain't happening anytime soon.

[Frankie14]

LOL don't think I have the patience for this.

LOL, I'm with you John. That's more time and effort than I can afford, not so much the money but the time and effort.

[BraveJohn]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Lots of impersonal contact with people she can't connect with.

Single mother.

Now:

Be a nice guy.

Chat her up for a few days before suggesting a meeting. Don't even mention sex unless she brings it up.

Don't discuss money. If she goes straight to the money conversation, she isn't the right one. Keep looking.

Take her someplace nice, a sit-down restaurant that requires reservations where you order from a menu. Order something mid to upper price from the menu so she understands she can do the same.

Encourage her to talk about herself, her life, her goals. No vulgar talk, no bad language. Be a gentleman.

Send / take her home with no discussion of sex.

Send her a note right away that you had a great time.

Wait a day or two, then suggest an overnight at the beach, in the mountains, something that sounds exotic to a woman who's never been spoiled.

Take her shopping, plan to drop 100/200.

Slip an envelope in her purse while she's in the bathroom with 200/300.

That's sealed the deal for me every time. And 90 percent of the time it's been raw and she'll come back over and over, for several hours, overnight, weekends. I've never spent more than 250 on the visit itself. I'm 63. In 2019, I had a year-long run with a 27/28 year old single mother who came to my house once or twice a week on her days off and spent the day while her son was in school. At least once a month there was an overnight. After that I sifted through half a dozen 2-date, full-contact possibilities before settling down with a 42 year old single mom. We spend 2-3 days together every weekend and I pay her rent, take her out, overnights out of town once a month, buy things she needs.

This is a SGF relationship with someone who has a financial incentive to keep you around and keep you happy. If it doesn't work out, there isn't a messy divorce afterwards where you lose half your shit.

Or you can book a clock watching, twerking hooker who will pressure you to get it over with and out the door as soon as possible.

Sugar life isn't for everyone, and can be a lot of work to get it going, more if you're married or have an s / o you want to hang onto. Your money, your choice.

LOL don't think I have the patience for this.

[NewAnonymousName]

I can drag a fat girl with an attitude out of the local bar for free.

I think JustMikey has claimed best post of the day long before lunch time. Well done.

[OopaRam]

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place.

This is a SGF relationship with someone who has a financial incentive to keep you around and keep you happy. If it doesn't work out, there isn't a messy divorce afterwards where you lose half your shit.

Hal, I appreciate your response and it describes well the SGF adventure. I can see the fun in it when one has the time and money to contribute beyond instant fleshly gratification. Great post!

[JustMikey]

You are exactly right. She must be charging by the pound. There's no other explanation for that absurd price.

I can drag a fat girl with an attitude out of the local bar for free.

[Nicky233]

You are exactly right. She must be charging by the pound. There's no other explanation for that absurd price.

They can have all the body positivity they want, it won't pay the bills. Lmao.

[NewAnonymousName]

I have been reading this forum and found that most of the providers on SA are either scam artists or overprice manipulators. For the price paid per encounter, many other options exist. I just want to know more about the merits of this type of encounters. Someone please enlighten me. PM is welcome.

It's worth it if you put in the time to search for worthwhile sugar babies. You read about the duds so often because we post about duds to help you avoid wasting the time we wasted chatting with a scammer or dime store ho.

[NewAnonymousName]

https://www.seeking.com/member/c7676...9-49705d859174

This one approached me, while certainly not my type, to each their own. Down for pretty much whatever you want, kink-friendly. However, she wants no less than 7 xx per meet, "because of COVID". I guess it's kinda like buying something at the butcher with this one.

You are exactly right. She must be charging by the pound. There's no other explanation for that absurd price.

[SeekingHead]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Great post, newbies read this as it's what most of us are after in a sugar relationship. We want a younger women to date & spend time with in exchange for some $$'s.

[NoswtTea]

Anyone using SDM? The app sucks compared to SA, and it always shows people out of state, but I've had much better luck recently. Less scams / deposits / online only stuff.

[Hal1957]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Lots of impersonal contact with people she can't connect with.

Single mother.

Now:

Be a nice guy.

Chat her up for a few days before suggesting a meeting. Don't even mention sex unless she brings it up.

Don't discuss money. If she goes straight to the money conversation, she isn't the right one. Keep looking.

Take her someplace nice, a sit-down restaurant that requires reservations where you order from a menu. Order something mid to upper price from the menu so she understands she can do the same.

Encourage her to talk about herself, her life, her goals. No vulgar talk, no bad language. Be a gentleman.

Send / take her home with no discussion of sex.

Send her a note right away that you had a great time.

Wait a day or two, then suggest an overnight at the beach, in the mountains, something that sounds exotic to a woman who's never been spoiled.

Take her shopping, plan to drop 100/200.

Slip an envelope in her purse while she's in the bathroom with 200/300.

That's sealed the deal for me every time. And 90 percent of the time it's been raw and she'll come back over and over, for several hours, overnight, weekends. I've never spent more than 250 on the visit itself. I'm 63. In 2019, I had a year-long run with a 27/28 year old single mother who came to my house once or twice a week on her days off and spent the day while her son was in school. At least once a month there was an overnight. After that I sifted through half a dozen 2-date, full-contact possibilities before settling down with a 42 year old single mom. We spend 2-3 days together every weekend and I pay her rent, take her out, overnights out of town once a month, buy things she needs.

This is a SGF relationship with someone who has a financial incentive to keep you around and keep you happy. If it doesn't work out, there isn't a messy divorce afterwards where you lose half your shit.

Or you can book a clock watching, twerking hooker who will pressure you to get it over with and out the door as soon as possible.

Sugar life isn't for everyone, and can be a lot of work to get it going, more if you're married or have an s / o you want to hang onto. Your money, your choice.

I have been reading this forum and found that most of the providers on SA are either scam artists or overprice manipulators. For the price paid per encounter, many other options exist. I just want to know more about the merits of this type of encounters. Someone please enlighten me. PM is welcome.

[BoJackSugarman]

SA oiffers me at least, the ability to raw dog & cum in the pussy of a hot 20 something in her prime for $200 to $300 per meet up. For over 3 years I've consistently had 1 or 2 girls go out or come to my house for a dinner date, drinks, smoke, & usually 2 to 3 hours of adult play time. Yes, you have to shift through the time wasters, scammers, & pro's, but in the end once you find a good one your set for 2 to 6 months.

Pro's are cheaper but you have to use a condom, 99% of them watch the clock like a hawk, & after a while hate men.

I agree with everything SH said and I was lucky enough to pull some quality regulars off SA before I let my membership expire. I've been with SA since the old days like 2014. It gets worse every year and I finally figured out why. Math.

In 2014, SA boasted there were 8 SBs for every SD and it felt like it. You could send some messages and meet up with a chick same night most times. Back then, they didn't even expect $ many times and never on the first meet or in advance. I checked the site and they list the members in each category and last I checked it was like 8 M SBs and 2. 5 M SDs that's only 3. 2/1 also when you factor how many scammers / fatties / time wasters have polluted SA it is probably much worse. Supply and demand govern every market thus the GPS prices and lower conversion rates. .

As an experiment, I'm going to try to convert some random civilians I meet into SBs. I've done it before with a hot waitress I met traveling in Chicago a few years ago. I feel like that market might be untapped. Will let you know how it goes.

Best of luck to you all, with the current state of affairs on SA, you are going to need it.

[Frankie14]

SA oiffers me at least, the ability to raw dog & cum in the pussy of a hot 20 something in her prime for $200 to $300 per meet up. For over 3 years I've consistently had 1 or 2 girls go out or come to my house for a dinner date, drinks, smoke, & usually 2 to 3 hours of adult play time. Yes, you have to shift through the time wasters, scammers, & pro's, but in the end once you find a good one your set for 2 to 6 months.

Pro's are cheaper but you have to use a condom, 99% of them watch the clock like a hawk, & after a while hate men.

Sounds like some of my experiences with young strippers. (Before they develop GPS.) Girls are available and willing for sugar arrangements from different mediums. Just have to figure out what works for you.