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  1. #3427

    Intel please

    Quote Originally Posted by Orch13  [View Original Post]
    From a very trusted senior on here that in fact is is Eliza.
    Have been in touch. $. 5/ hh $$ h Worth a visit??

  2. #3426
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicy1  [View Original Post]
    She's pretty much legit, but offers hjhe to keep up with the opposition.
    Accurate reply, small place, one provider older decent massage. Biggest problem do not open your eyes if laying face down on table. The carpet is so stained it was repulsive.

  3. #3425

    Classic Asian Mass

    Quote Originally Posted by SrDick  [View Original Post]
    Good day fellow gentleman. Was wondering if any Naples people have ever visited Classic Asian Massage on Davis Bvld. I have always felt sketchy about the place so I have never gone.
    She's pretty much legit, but offers hjhe to keep up with the opposition.

  4. #3424

    I have gotten confirmation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnsx  [View Original Post]
    Reading recent posts, I am curious if Jess at Mindful Massage in the Cape is Eliza that many of you have referenced; can anyone advise?

    https://fort-myers.skipthegames.com/061605970943
    From a very trusted senior on here that in fact is is Eliza.

  5. #3423

    CL ad

    Quote Originally Posted by Orch13  [View Original Post]
    This "jerk" did not want to post the connection between her CL post and phone number which led to her personal and professional website. That website has changed the contact phone number from the CL contact to a new phone number. You can still access that website if you prefer. I prefer my massage ladies name be followed by LMT or CMT and not JD or LLB.
    Hey Orch, did some research and find it hard to believe the hottie in Miami is the same person doing massage on CL. Would be nice but like you said kinda weird. Thanks again for sharing.

    LTD.

  6. #3422
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    That's all well and good, except for one thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Member#4063  [View Original Post]
    Here is a UTube video of a defense attorney cautioning to "never speak to the police". It is about 30 minutes long, but very very worth watching. The bottom line, never talk to the police and always avail yourself of your 5th amendment right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
    When it comes to mongering and the hobby, the goal is to get out of any LE encounter without getting arrested AND without drawing any undue or unwanted attention to yourself. This last point is crucially important for those who have wives, girlfriends, or sensitive job considerations.

    Lawyers are great at giving advice that sounds good, in the abstract, but can cause problems in real life. Since there's no way to know the kind of cop you'll encounter, there's a risk you'll run into one who, if you piss them off, will make it their personal mission to f*ck you over. And if you don't think some cops can be hugely petty and vindictive, you should think again.

    Playing the "I know my rights" card can result in a cop looking for any pretext to arrest you or call someone to "check out your story" or whatever else they can think of. Most cops have had hundreds or thousands of encounters with uncooperative people and many have honed their "f*ck with you" skills to a high level. And, if you think you can threaten them with a lawsuit, think again. They know most mongers don't want to draw attention to themselves, or their activities, and they know their LE dept will pay for any defence while the monger will have to shell out hard-earned dollars for their own lawyer.

    If you're single and self-employed, or otherwise have nothing at risk, by all means go ahead. But, if that's not the case, I would strongly recommend thinking about ways to de-escalate and get out of the encounter without antagonising the cops.

    Mongers can decide for themselves, of course, as every situation is unique. There's no way a web lawyer can address every variable so best to consider your own risk environment before following anyone's advice, including mine.

    Be safe and happy hunting!

  7. #3421

    Legit

    Quote Originally Posted by Nienhull  [View Original Post]
    For those tired of waisting time looking for something that doesn't exist on this site, this is what I found on CL. No pic. Nothing but a Miami number. What's with the cat and mouse game. Just post the link:

    https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee...253534717.html
    After seeing Sabrina for a few times, she now does BBBJ finishes and recently started doing BBFS finishes. She just asks for more, and I am happy to give it to her.

  8. #3420

    You are entitled to your opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by TDisregard  [View Original Post]
    This site is for sharing information, not for being a jerk and playing games.
    This "jerk" did not want to post the connection between her CL post and phone number which led to her personal and professional website. That website has changed the contact phone number from the CL contact to a new phone number. You can still access that website if you prefer. I prefer my massage ladies name be followed by LMT or CMT and not JD or LLB.

  9. #3419

    Talking to the police

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    If LE uses some minor (real or alleged) traffic infraction to stop you, it'll be crystal clear because the focus of the stop will quickly shift away from traffic issues and they'll start asking questions about the AMP.

    Some would advise taking a hard line and refusing to answer questions, or that you won't without a lawyer present, but that'll likely piss off the cops and they'll look for any way they can to screw with you.

    A better strategy, IMHO, is for you to stay focused on the traffic stop and act confused when they try to change the subject. Cops hate it when people respond to their questions with another question. If each time they ask about AMP stuff you say something like "I don't understand why you stopped me. What was wrong with my driving? They'll quickly get frustrated. They might write you a ticket, or maybe not. But at least a frustrated cop is usually not as bad as one that's pissed.

    If, for any reason, you feel backed into a corner and feel you have to say something about the AMP, just stick to the story that you had a legit massage, nothing more. Don't provide any extra details and don't fall for any ruse in which they claim to have info from people at the AMP. For example, cop says the AMP said you paid $ for a sex act. Your response is that that's a damn lie (the more outrage, the better)!

    Bottom-line, focus on the traffic stop (only); ask questions, act confused, and be frustrating without being confrontational; stick to the legit massage story, if you need to go there, but stay vague and provide no details.

    It's important to keep in mind that if they had probable cause to arrest you they wouldn't need to do a pretext traffic stop. The tactic of asking a lot of questions is designed to get you to contradict yourself or say something that's clearly a lie. Don't fall into that trap.

    Finally, if there's no traffic stop at all, just questions after you leave an AMP, the same strategies apply minus the traffic stuff. You can still act confused as to why you're being questioned and use that as your starting point.

    P.S. Some cops will threaten to call your SO, or your work, to put you under increased pressure. Don't fall for that despicable tactic. Keep repeating that you're confused as to why you were stopped and even more confused as to why your SO or employer should be involved in any way.

    P. P.S. In a perverse way, if you're in a jurisdiction where the cops are wearing body cameras, that should help you because after a few minutes it'll be obvious that the cops are playing games. You could even turn that to your advantage by asking if the encounter is being recorded and, if not, why not?

    BSOT!
    Here is a UTube video of a defense attorney cautioning to "never speak to the police". It is about 30 minutes long, but very very worth watching. The bottom line, never talk to the police and always avail yourself of your 5th amendment right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

  10. #3418

    Jess at Mindful Massage

    Reading recent posts, I am curious if Jess at Mindful Massage in the Cape is Eliza that many of you have referenced; can anyone advise?

    https://fort-myers.skipthegames.com/061605970943

  11. #3417

    Fireworks Fort Myers

    Has anyone bought any fireworks in south fort myers recently? My buddy has been there before but been a long time. He stopped by before the holidays and was greeted by a enticing female in her 30/40's. She had a pair of large cannons that he was very interested in but did not have enough time for. Anyone have any recent experience?

  12. #3416

    Table Shower

    What's the favorite FtMyers AMP with a table shower?

  13. #3415

    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nienhull  [View Original Post]
    For those tired of waisting time looking for something that doesn't exist on this site, this is what I found on CL. No pic. Nothing but a Miami number. What's with the cat and mouse game. Just post the link:

    https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee...253534717.html
    This site is for sharing information, not for being a jerk and playing games.

  14. #3414
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    Pretext stops by LE

    Quote Originally Posted by Member#4063  [View Original Post]
    Remembering back to the Craft issue of last year I am wondering what happens when pulled over after an AMP visit? The method used on the east coast was to follow an AMP visitor and look for a minor traffic infraction then pull them over. What is the situation if there is no infraction, but nevertheless LE does stop a vehicle? I have heard of a recent LE visit to a Naples AMP where they did not attempt to enter the massage room, but did question visitors upon leaving. Not going to provide the AMP's name for privacy please.
    If LE uses some minor (real or alleged) traffic infraction to stop you, it'll be crystal clear because the focus of the stop will quickly shift away from traffic issues and they'll start asking questions about the AMP.

    Some would advise taking a hard line and refusing to answer questions, or that you won't without a lawyer present, but that'll likely piss off the cops and they'll look for any way they can to screw with you.

    A better strategy, IMHO, is for you to stay focused on the traffic stop and act confused when they try to change the subject. Cops hate it when people respond to their questions with another question. If each time they ask about AMP stuff you say something like "I don't understand why you stopped me. What was wrong with my driving? They'll quickly get frustrated. They might write you a ticket, or maybe not. But at least a frustrated cop is usually not as bad as one that's pissed.

    If, for any reason, you feel backed into a corner and feel you have to say something about the AMP, just stick to the story that you had a legit massage, nothing more. Don't provide any extra details and don't fall for any ruse in which they claim to have info from people at the AMP. For example, cop says the AMP said you paid $ for a sex act. Your response is that that's a damn lie (the more outrage, the better)!

    Bottom-line, focus on the traffic stop (only); ask questions, act confused, and be frustrating without being confrontational; stick to the legit massage story, if you need to go there, but stay vague and provide no details.

    It's important to keep in mind that if they had probable cause to arrest you they wouldn't need to do a pretext traffic stop. The tactic of asking a lot of questions is designed to get you to contradict yourself or say something that's clearly a lie. Don't fall into that trap.

    Finally, if there's no traffic stop at all, just questions after you leave an AMP, the same strategies apply minus the traffic stuff. You can still act confused as to why you're being questioned and use that as your starting point.

    P.S. Some cops will threaten to call your SO, or your work, to put you under increased pressure. Don't fall for that despicable tactic. Keep repeating that you're confused as to why you were stopped and even more confused as to why your SO or employer should be involved in any way.

    P. P.S. In a perverse way, if you're in a jurisdiction where the cops are wearing body cameras, that should help you because after a few minutes it'll be obvious that the cops are playing games. You could even turn that to your advantage by asking if the encounter is being recorded and, if not, why not?

    BSOT!

  15. #3413

    VI VI Of Del Prado

    Was in the Cape at the Twisted Lobster on Del Prado and had a $50.00 gift card a friend of mine gave me for VI VI Massage that is right next door. So after I get my 3 tail's and a baked potato of course with drawn butter LOL. So lets use this gift card and see what they have. So don't even have to move my car and in I go. Greeted by VIVI of course and a little dog that looks like a muskrat or something of that nature. Yes come in and leads me to a nice room. Asks for $50.00 and give her a gift card, which of course they don't like, but tells me to get undressed and face down. Nice place and in come VIVI with a waist belt on for back troubles. Shit where is this going, but oddly enough she takes it off and puts on rubber gloves, and they are tight so it does feel like your hands. Might say good rub on neck, shoulder and even does your scalp which reels really good. Might I also say, she stays a long time on the crack or my ass, and reaching down and teasing my balls, but a nice feeling. So she tells me to flip, and right away sprays my hand with some alcohol mixture, you know what that means? Roman hands and Russian fingers are about to happen. So she lubes up her hands and my dick and I reach right in there with the nicest round ass, and then go around and under the thong. Nice pussy just shaved with a little nubs on it. Also reach up and pull her tit out of her bra and massage her nice nipples. As she is jerking me off with her left hand, her other hand with one finger is going in my ass. Rimming was great, and she definitely popped my load right in her hand. Then tells me Happy New year and cleans up. All in all nice time for $50.00 and gave her a 20 on the way out for a tip, which she appreciated. I definitely would come back when in the area, next time for one hour she said more of a service will be rendered. Ciao and Happy New Years all you mongers.

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