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  1. #35931

    Is this a real ad?

    https://honolulu.bedpage.com/Therape...i/6474360.html

    This ad mentions the Lydia that was there at Hunnewell before briefly, has anyone been able to get a response?

  2. #35930
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyBoy13  [View Original Post]
    I already drove all the way down there.
    So who's there if not Skye? Thanks.

  3. #35929
    Quote Originally Posted by Restless1728  [View Original Post]
    Sorry that is not skye's place it was a misunderstanding!
    I already drove all the way down there.

  4. #35928

    Sorry misunderstanding

    Quote Originally Posted by Restless1728  [View Original Post]
    That's young skye's new place.
    Sorry that is not skye's place it was a misunderstanding!

  5. #35927

    Welcome to Hawaii

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidekick501  [View Original Post]
    I think most mongers are aware that our AMP prices are lower than big city markets, but not everywhere. However no one is going to argue that Hawaii has a high cost of living. That's what limits most of us from blowing big bucks on escorts, AMPs, and massages. It also limits girls setting up shop here. We normally attracted visiting or transient providers because of our weather, beaches, less dangerous work environment, and permissive LE.

    Permissive LE attitude ended 5 years ago. The economy has gotten worse. That's why our options keep diminishing. It will be a long recovery for the Hawaii scene.
    Small package of fresh spring mix is 6 dollars here. Big one 8 bucks. In mainland it was half price.

    What about commercial rental? Unlike mainland massage shop (remote location), damn one unit in packed town. High rental.

    Can girls come by car as many illegal residents do in mainland? No. Only legal one without record feel safe and some girls (they got arrested or I'd-checked up in other states) got freaked in airport. And now test and quarantine.

    Anyway compared to mainland raid, hps is almost angel. Before mainland les just drag girls in thong and only fishnet dress into van. On the street in cold weather pros got lined up till investigation was done. And was "one girl caught then take any human in that shop into custody first".

    But hpd's way became more sneaky and meaner. Once I'd checked up or investigation, pros may get sudden warrant after 3 months or 6 months or even after 1 year. Just leaving Hawaii was the best choice for some.

    There must be reason when girls and shops suddenly stop ads and avoid reviews.

    Then worse came. Shops and girls kept very very low. Even appointment with stranger scared them. Many left from fear then coronavirus. But soon money will be the reason. Young quick visitors disappear owing to job loss, stable grannies will hesitate visiting cause they worry about their own health and life itself.

    Keep a few leftovers now though they may not be ideal girl unless we can win in freebie competing jungle war against younger, fitter dudes. To hungry men, even 1 dollar gas station donut can be diamond. Sad truth for a while.

  6. #35926
    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJohn808  [View Original Post]
    No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.
    I think most mongers are aware that our AMP prices are lower than big city markets, but not everywhere. However no one is going to argue that Hawaii has a high cost of living. That's what limits most of us from blowing big bucks on escorts, AMPs, and massages. It also limits girls setting up shop here. We normally attracted visiting or transient providers because of our weather, beaches, less dangerous work environment, and permissive LE.

    Permissive LE attitude ended 5 years ago. The economy has gotten worse. That's why our options keep diminishing. It will be a long recovery for the Hawaii scene.

  7. #35925
    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJohn808  [View Original Post]
    No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.
    Yes Dee John, I was thinking that too. I don't mind to pay more for higher quality talent, but I would be very pissed to pay more for that low quality service that we are getting from the Chinese connection style service at century center. The women better have decent hygiene, good looks, attitude and service. Otherwise, I will probably be sitting it out for a very long time, and head back into the hostess bars.

    Top tier girls versus the low quality girls. I know that they all will claim to be the best girl around, but we should know better.

  8. #35924
    No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.

    Quote Originally Posted by Idusixtyning  [View Original Post]
    I think most Koreans potentially interested in opening a place have decided it's not worth the risk here and have gone elsewhere on the mainland. Even Happy decided to get out.

  9. #35923
    Quote Originally Posted by MeCook  [View Original Post]
    I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.

    The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.

    The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.

    We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.

    I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.
    I think most Koreans potentially interested in opening a place have decided it's not worth the risk here and have gone elsewhere on the mainland. Even Happy decided to get out.

  10. #35922

    Skye

    Quote Originally Posted by ManapuaMan  [View Original Post]
    On the way to Lex Brodie's today saw a sign on a small building across where Ward Bank of Hawaii used to be with that name on it. Anyone try the place? Anything good there?

    MP Man.
    That's young skye's new place.

  11. #35921

    Sirinn Thai Massage

    On the way to Lex Brodie's today saw a sign on a small building across where Ward Bank of Hawaii used to be with that name on it. Anyone try the place? Anything good there?

    MP Man.

  12. #35920
    Quote Originally Posted by MeCook  [View Original Post]
    I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.

    The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.

    The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.

    We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.

    I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.
    Osaka: the whole building is destined to be demolished (to sorabol restaurant). Yas will not find new shop of course. She is not that dumb.

    Beach, asia: did not know those are k place. But even owners there have never wanted many customer influx. They just feel satisfied with small amount of cash for shopping. No interests in boosting business.

    Plus: this place is almost for semi indie's cheap hotel rental. Even workers there don't respond to calling or knocking. And they choose whether they take care of customer or not. Girls there (but joy) did not like locals, it was tourist haole men's places for long.

    All of them choose whether they take customer or not, open the door or not. Your luck or their picky choice.

    Angel: heard they dare to take new clients. But we can guess without tourist surge and non-asian pros, this place has no meaning.

    Blue star: the most brave place. But we all know this place's fate is as dark as its old granny prostitutes' fate.

    Girls who finally left hawaii will be back? Not sure when they taste easier customer in mainland. Already most parts in america but dallas (even dallas' k AMPs are being shut down more and more.) is dominated by Chinese connection.

    Unlike 10 years ago, korean women have much much less trouble (being sent to secondary room), which means even government knows less korean women are coming to USA to be prostitutes. And once korean AMPs got fucked up as like seattle and connecticut, no new korean AMP. Chinese take them over.

  13. #35919
    Quote Originally Posted by MeCook  [View Original Post]
    I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.

    The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.

    The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.

    We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.

    I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.
    There will not be many young ones' influx from korea any more.

    Before with korean's new law of very anti prostitution, many 30-40's old prostitutes (who can not be adjusted to new model-studio system) came to america owing to visa waiver.

    But now new law in korea rarely punish working girls, it is going more like scandinavian model. And new generation of korean men are not their fathers' generation. New generation like safe sex and good manner on working girls. And price is high there. 15 minutes studio girl in city get 100-150 USD. All prepaid service and 15 mins service. Young korean talents have no reason to come to coronavirus heaven. (They rather go to mainland China, true. With big tipper boasting Chinese men).

    FYI some 30's k former AMP girls still in hawaii. With changing into studio system, half incall half outcall. They (now shifting period and cpronashit) just keep very low with limited regulars. I know many guys here know what I mean and they will not reveal their (safer and cleaner) fond to share their bb girls with hundred guys. New norms now.

    And in mainland younger, fitter k women don't like AMP refugee camp like shit. They go for quality (less customer but higher charge).

  14. #35918
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolDude44  [View Original Post]
    What is everyone using to find massage parlors these days? Xguide was pretty good but I can't access it anymore. Bedpage is sketchy and the old AMPs are disappearing other than a few around keeaumoku st.

    Is there a reliable website other than here? PM is ok. Been sitting on the sideline due to covid but you just don't see those neon "open" signs around these days. Even Waikiki is dead these days.
    I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.

    The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.

    The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.

    We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.

    I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.

  15. #35917
    What is everyone using to find massage parlors these days? Xguide was pretty good but I can't access it anymore. Bedpage is sketchy and the old AMPs are disappearing other than a few around keeaumoku st.

    Is there a reliable website other than here? PM is ok. Been sitting on the sideline due to covid but you just don't see those neon "open" signs around these days. Even Waikiki is dead these days.

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