Rants and Raves

[PunkedLife]

Many who refused to a wear a mask and contracted COVID regretted their decision. Heres a snippet of people posting their regrets.

Studies have proven that most regular masks of not all do not protect you from covid. Only an n95 protects you the most and even that I don't believe is 100 percent. In medical settings people wear face shields too tu avoid any splash from things such as coughing. You need to practice social distancing and just avoiding people you don't know. This hobby is very risky especially if you are not a single man and have family. Look what happened to King. When your setting up and participating in gb parties with a bunch of guys and a few girls then you can't act surprised when someone gets the bug. That's an example tailored to people here but think about how many new years parties will be held at private residences and clubs packed full of people. Great way to start off 2021 being stuck in a ventilator. There are real consequences to your actions. My friend whose been out travelling overseas and hobbying just caught the bug. He is doing ok now but from having video chat via WhatsApp with him and seeing his state was concerning. He was hooked up to 4 L of oxygen and his oxygen saturation was still hovering at around 92 or below. He's doing better now but it's not always the case. Plus many people are reporting long term effects from having covid. So I personally don't care about those statistics about the number of deaths that you guys keep reporting. At the end of the day I'm not trying to be any part of any of those statistics.

[Game Cock Too]

Many who refused to a wear a mask and contracted COVID regretted their decision. Heres a snippet of people posting their regrets.

Religiously wearing a mask is virtually impossible. Who wears a mask 24/7? You could come home to an asymptomatic wife or family after wearing a mask religiously ALL DAY, take off your mask, and catch it. While the mouth and nose are still the biggest areas of concern, it's possible to catch it through the eyes as well. When working with COVID patients, the majority of the staff wear a face shield. I probably see less that 1% of people wearing face shields when I'm out in public.

And the debate continues. LOL.

[Sgt Soros]

Tell it to the very people who wore the masks religiously and still contracted COVID.

Many who refused to a wear a mask and contracted COVID regretted their decision. Here’s a snippet of people posting their regrets.

Mike Pence Regrets Not Wearing Face Mask to Mayo Clinic: 'I Should Have' - Newsweek
May 3, 2020 While Pence admitted regret, he also defended his decision to not wear a mask, saying that he knew he didn't have coronavirus at the time.

COVID-Positive Doc: 'I Didn't Wear a Mask and I Regret It' | MedPage Today
Jul 23, 2020 They said they also suspect their 2-year-old daughter has the virus based on symptoms. "We did not mask while visiting with family because we let our guard down and thought we were safe......

Man who went to party warned people not to be an 'idiot like me' a day before dying of covid-19. Jul 2, 2020 He'd gone out to a party where no one wore masks, his niece Danielle Lopez said, only to learn afterward that someone knowingly attended with the novel coronavirus, apparently reasoning*...


ICU Nurse: Many COVID-19 Patients Regret Not Heeding Warnings : NPR
Nov 12, 2020 What are you seeing when you're walking in to work, right? I mean, are people wearing masks? Do you see social distancing? MOBLEY: Definitely, definitely a lot more need for people to do a lot*...

Texas 24-year-old hospitalized 79 days with coronavirus regrets not wearing mask | WFLA - WFLA.com
Texas 24-year-old hospitalized 79 days with coronavirus regrets not wearing mask. Coronavirus. by : Nexstar Media Wire and CNN Newsource. Posted: Jul 18, 2020

A Message from Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.: I regret my error of judgment in not wearing a mask | Office of the President | University of Notre Dame
A Message from Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.: I regret my error of judgment in not wearing a mask. Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,. I know many of you have read about the White House ceremony I recently attended.

Chris Christie Reveals Regrets After Battling COVID-19: 'I Was Wrong To Not Wear A Mask' CBS New York
Oct 15, 2020 I hope that my experience shows my fellow citizens that you should follow CDC guidelines in public no matter where you are and wear a mask to protect yourself and others.

Masks stop coronavirus. Getting AIDS showed me the stupidity of not wearing them. - NBC News
Jul 25, 2020 Image: A frustrated man wearing a mask watches a jovial couple, with no masks ... I also know the feelings of regret, anger and guilt that come with the decision to value free choice above all*...


Harrison man with COVID-19 regrets not taking coronavirus seriously - The Post-Crescent
Jul 2, 2020 In that time, Garber has had regrets, asking himself why he didn't heed the advice of public health professionals who recommend wearing a face mask whenever in public, in addition to social*...

Formerly disbelieving, Arizona couple who suffered from COVID-19 expresses regrets - KOLD.com
Aug 4, 2020 We make any member or customer walking through our doors remove their face mask. That's our pride, gun shop owner Patrick Baughman said. Absolutely. You do not shop in my store with *...

Henderson regrets not wearing mask at protest in Redmond | Coronavirus | bendbulletin.com
May 1, 2020 Deschutes County Commissioner Phil Henderson regrets not wearing his face mask at last Friday's Town Hall rally in Redmond, where he addressed protesters angry with the governor's stay-at-home*..

Man dies of coronavirus after posting his regrets for not social distancing - Fox23
Jul 2, 2020 Man dies of coronavirus after posting his regrets for not social distancing ... This is no joke. If you have to go out wear a mask and practice social distancing. Don't be a (expletive) idiot like me.

USFK regrets no-mask dance parties amid Covid-19 resurgence | MENAFN.COM
Dec 10, 2020 The USFK has been under criticism over the dance party held last week at the American bases, in which participants did not wear masks. Both the US Army Garrison Humphreys and the Osan Air Base are...

Heartbroken Westmore Pastor Regrets Not Encouraging Masks - ChurchLeaders
Jul 13, 2020 But perhaps when we all wear masks, the vulnerable are less likely to be vulnerable. In a message filled with emotion, the pastor said, The last few weeks have been tough.

Woman who destroyed Target mask display has some regrets - New York Daily News - NY Daily News
Jul 30, 2020 In the video, which Rein Lively posted to her own social media accounts, the woman pulls down a mask display after being confronted by employees about not wearing one herself and claims*..


US pastor says he regrets not forcing people to wear masks after Covid-19 outbreak at church- Premier Christian News
Jul 15, 2020 A pastor from the US state of Tennessee has said he regrets not making masks mandatory for congregants after a large-scale outbreak of Covid-19 rocked his church last month,.

[Bullett64]

Tell it to the very people who wore the masks religiously and still contracted COVID.

No-one ever claimed that masks are perfect at stopping the transmission of the virus, but they are FAR, FAR superior than not wearing one at all in preventing its spread. They would be even better if a greater percentage of the population wore them. And they must be worn correctly. Those who have them over their mouths with their noses exposed do not count as mask-wearers.

Its a pain in the ass to wear one, but a small price to pay to minimize the spread of the virus until enough people are vaccinated to to get this thing under control.

[Xxxx9998]

Would be delighted to tell them that. Care to provide any names or data to back up your comment?

This is akin to saying. I got an STD even though I religiously wear a rubber.

Except that one time. At the gangbang. Apart from that. Religiously.

Tell it to the very people who wore the masks religiously and still contracted COVID.

[BobSugarSmith]

Most of us on this site are are part time Gynecologists are we not

Caught me off guard during this on going argument. Thanks for the laugh.

[RedneckStud]

It's right here, on one page, clear as a bell, not 10,000 pages with 40 lines just for Alabama. Its not 3,073,069 it's 2,851,438 well not actually, it's going to be more because the count lags but unless 300,000 people die this week it's going to be 2. 85 million and change, same as last year, same as 2018, same as 2017, same as 2016.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ekly/index.htm

I know you didn't learn anything because you just keep refusing to look at the chart and keep saying the same wrong shit over and over. I understand, you picked the incorrect narrative and you're having a hard time admitting it. But the numbers are what they are, there are no extra deaths end of story.

You're thumbnail doesn't have the title of the table. Take a look again. It says from 2/1/2020. It's missing data from January.

Talk about someone that wants to stay in their narrative and not learn something!

[NewDude]

This debate will never end. Who cares if someone claims to be a doctor. Having worked with doctors for many, many years I've learned that having an MD behind a name doesn't make someone the smartest person in the world. Doctors have differing opinions ALL of the time, and can and will interpret data differently ALL of the time. Look at Fauci versus Scott Atlas. Malpractice cases involve doctors questioning others doctors regarding why they prescribed a certain treatment or procedure that caused harm. And numbers can be manipulate to prove anyone's point of view.

Has anyone been inside of a COVID ward? Some of us would definitely change their mind if you had the chance to see what is taking place. We all really need to start reviewing data from all sources and not from just a conservative or liberal publication. I have many friends who have had COVID. Here's the thing: Their symptoms ranged from asymptomatic to death. The 300,000+ deaths are the documented cases. How many deaths are undocumented COVID-related deaths that could possibly increase that number? One of the biggest issues is asymptomatic spreading, which undermines the mask debate. If COVID had visual indicators regardless of severity, like the chicken pox or leprosy, I can almost guarantee that most of us would stay away from that person or choose a mask.

It IS true that majority of us will not die from COVID, but I'm not a fan of the Russian Roulette characteristics of this disease. Out of the 35+ people diagnosed associated with the White House, only Herman Cain passed? What is true is that there are some post-COVID morbidities that can last for who knows how long. One of the neurologist at a Georgia medical college is collecting the morbidity data from documented case. Her warning to me was, You do NOT want to catch THIS disease. I have one friend who STILL hasn't been able to smell since March.

A death and another had their foot amputated after being in an induced coma. Don't forget they got top flight cutting edge medicine that we can't get. All while telling people that nothings wrong. A better question for the message board doctors would be, why are the same politicians that are telling the public to not be scared and there's nothing to worry about rushing to the front of the vaccine line. Most of them are younger than our most fervent anti maskers here as well.

[Sgt Lurker]

The viral "particles" are in fact orders of magnitude smaller than the gaps in the fabric of masks. However, CV19 isn't airborne. It doesn't just float about the place. It is transmitted attached to liquid droplets from coughing, sneezing or simply breathing moist air. The liquid droplets are much larger and typically are constrained from passing through masks. In or out. To a large extent.

Science experiment. Put a mask on and try to spit on someone six feet away.

Tell it to the very people who wore the masks religiously and still contracted COVID.

[Xxxx9998]

The viral "particles" are in fact orders of magnitude smaller than the gaps in the fabric of masks. However, CV19 isn't airborne. It doesn't just float about the place. It is transmitted attached to liquid droplets from coughing, sneezing or simply breathing moist air. The liquid droplets are much larger and typically are constrained from passing through masks. In or out. To a large extent.

Science experiment. Put a mask on and try to spit on someone six feet away.

The COVID virus is so tiny it passes right through all but truly medical masks but that is as un-politically correct as when I was in command in the Army in the mid-90's I opposed the community health nurse just telling my soldiers to use a condom when the HIV virus passed through over 90% of the cheap brands of condoms. Remember the HIV pandemic of the early 80's? It was running most rampant among the gay community and drug users but they would not be honest because it was discriminating against the gays.

[Xxxx9998]

I'm sure as a doctor, you appreciate the difference between "airborne" viruses versus those transmitted in liquid particles. As part of your medical training in virology, you'll also remember the difference in size of viral particles versus those of liquid particles and therefore the transmission through masks. Or not as the case may be.

I do not have to ask a doctor. I am a doctor.

Transmission of bacteria in the OR is a completely different issue than an airborne virus and non-certified cloth masks.

Peer reviewed publications show commonly used cloth masks only stop a tiny percentage of airborne viruses.

We should probably throw some virgins in a volcano to stop the spread. Probably as effective as the hysterical "shut down everything" and "wear masks" superstitious crowd.

Florida is largely open. California largely closed. Difference in spread rate is statistically not different.

[Admin2]

You can go to this CDC website and download the spreadsheet for deaths by week / cause / state / USA and total up all the deaths for 2019 and through 12/12/20.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Cou...muzy-jte6/data

I'll summarize it for you. Totals for USA in 2019 was 2,852,609. Through 12/12/2020 totals are 3,073,009. Deaths for the first two weeks of December were 99,645. See if you can use that elementary education to extrapolate what the total deaths will be through the end of 2020. Then use that fancy subtraction thing to get the difference.

Did you learn anything?

It's right here, on one page, clear as a bell, not 10,000 pages with 40 lines just for Alabama. Its not 3,073,069 it's 2,851,438 well not actually, it's going to be more because the count lags but unless 300,000 people die this week it's going to be 2. 85 million and change, same as last year, same as 2018, same as 2017, same as 2016.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ekly/index.htm

I know you didn't learn anything because you just keep refusing to look at the chart and keep saying the same wrong shit over and over. I understand, you picked the incorrect narrative and you're having a hard time admitting it. But the numbers are what they are, there are no extra deaths end of story.

[Sgt Soros]

Most of us on this site are are part time Gynecologists are we not.

True dat!....lol

[Niteluvr]

Most of us on this site are are part time Gynecologists are we not.

I've personally been a freelance gynecologist for over 40 years. Some on this thread who suggest to have medical knowledge are, at best, a veterinarian or Ph. D. As for medical expertise? Quite laughable. This here thread has become a comedy skit as of late.

[ComTech42]

I will take the advice of the Public Health professionals.

CDC recommends that people wear masks in public settings, like on public and mass transportation, at events and gatherings, and anywhere they will be around other people.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

World Health Organization WHO recommends Masks should be used as part of a comprehensive strategy of measures to suppress transmission and save lives; the use of a mask alone is not sufficient to provide an adequate level of protection against COVID-19.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...-to-use-masks.

Most of us on this site are are part time Gynecologists are we not.