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**Niteluvr** · 12-11-20 14:11

Originally Posted by TheWiseacre [View Original Post]

Hard to see why you think that CAMP workers have so little value that. They are able to make more than most mongers? Seems like they have figured out supply and demand pretty well, and are able to create a life around that value equation. And most of them, I suspect, left China to get a better life. I know a fair amount about China (have spent weeks there, have employed people there, have many Chinese immigrant friends, etc.) and it's very obvious to me why their citizens might seek a life in a different country.

We should all have great empathy for those who fall under prosecutorial abuse. We should all expect and seek equal protection under the law, even for groups that you do not feel sorry for on a personal level. We do not assign legal value on immigrants in this country based on how they might be treated in a different country. If you have such little respect for AMP workers based on your experience, and you think they are overpaid for delivering less-than-expected services, then please do not patronize them.

I only patronize or continue to patronize the CAMP girls who deserve it and don't try to cheat mongers by shaving time, jackhammering and the like. Nobody minds an honest worker, but the majority have become greedy thieves.

**The Wiseacre** · 12-11-20 10:06

Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]

I agree that the law is a disgrace, but I will never feel sorry for a CAMP girl. They make more money per month than most mongers do. If they don't like it, they can take a leaky, slow boat back to China where they can realise their true worth: little to nothing. I prefer balance, which shows both sides of the coin. How many CAMP ladies have shorted mongers on time, jackhammered their dicks, can't give even a half-assed massage, or otherwise didn't give a shit? We call that the vast majority.

I admit that I didn't read the article in full at first, re: freezing accounts, but seems most of the fines were around $6 k or so with maybe an additional $1 k paid to avoid community service. We know they'll shell out the extra $1 k for that (pocket change). So, those women perform 60 or so hand jobs at their new CAMP, their debt is gone and they're fully back in the game. Wow, what suffering (joke)!

Don't know how much you know about China but, as a foreigner, if you had pissed off the Chinese government for even a minor offence, your ass wouldn't get off nearly as easy. Still want to feel sorry for these "poor" CAMP girls? Experience the reverse in their country and then comment.

Hard to see why you think that CAMP workers have so little value that. They are able to make more than most mongers? Seems like they have figured out supply and demand pretty well, and are able to create a life around that value equation. And most of them, I suspect, left China to get a better life. I know a fair amount about China (have spent weeks there, have employed people there, have many Chinese immigrant friends, etc.) and it's very obvious to me why their citizens might seek a life in a different country.

We should all have great empathy for those who fall under prosecutorial abuse. We should all expect and seek equal protection under the law, even for groups that you do not feel sorry for on a personal level. We do not assign legal value on immigrants in this country based on how they might be treated in a different country. If you have such little respect for AMP workers based on your experience, and you think they are overpaid for delivering less-than-expected services, then please do not patronize them.

**Niteluvr** · 12-11-20 01:41

Originally Posted by TheWiseacre [View Original Post]

The amount of money a parlor makes varies widely on the amount of traffic, and I will leave it at that.

The point is that the johns in Jupiter didn't even get a fine. The owners, who could hopefully (easily) afford the fine, had their passports and bank accounts frozen. If you think getting your bank account frozen is just punishment when you haven't even been convicted of a crime, then I don't know what to say. If you think having your bank account frozen for months before prosecutors can secure a watered down conviction, I don't know what to say about that either. 100 hours of community service is not a walk in the park for anyone who has to work.

These AMPs are generally not pushing their services on anyone, nor are they taking advantage of their customers. They are privately negotiating and contracting in consensual services among adults and the complaints being filed and prosecuted are by people who do not apply the law equally. It's a disgrace.

I agree that the law is a disgrace, but I will never feel sorry for a CAMP girl. They make more money per month than most mongers do. If they don't like it, they can take a leaky, slow boat back to China where they can realise their true worth: little to nothing. I prefer balance, which shows both sides of the coin. How many CAMP ladies have shorted mongers on time, jackhammered their dicks, can't give even a half-assed massage, or otherwise didn't give a shit? We call that the vast majority.

I admit that I didn't read the article in full at first, re: freezing accounts, but seems most of the fines were around $6 k or so with maybe an additional $1 k paid to avoid community service. We know they'll shell out the extra $1 k for that (pocket change). So, those women perform 60 or so hand jobs at their new CAMP, their debt is gone and they're fully back in the game. Wow, what suffering (joke)!

Don't know how much you know about China but, as a foreigner, if you had pissed off the Chinese government for even a minor offence, your ass wouldn't get off nearly as easy. Still want to feel sorry for these "poor" CAMP girls? Experience the reverse in their country and then comment.

**The Wiseacre** · 12-10-20 08:39

Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]

Maybe the feds targeting the owner / masseuses isn't fair since they had no case against the customers, but I would never feel sorry for a CAMP owner or masseuse anywhere. Do you realise how much money these places rake in? A paltry $31 k fine is pocket change. Also, this was Jupiter, Florida, home to a lot of rich guys who probably tip very well. That parlor likely made millions before it was shut down

The amount of money a parlor makes varies widely on the amount of traffic, and I will leave it at that.

The point is that the johns in Jupiter didn't even get a fine. The owners, who could hopefully (easily) afford the fine, had their passports and bank accounts frozen. If you think getting your bank account frozen is just punishment when you haven't even been convicted of a crime, then I don't know what to say. If you think having your bank account frozen for months before prosecutors can secure a watered down conviction, I don't know what to say about that either. 100 hours of community service is not a walk in the park for anyone who has to work.

These AMPs are generally not pushing their services on anyone, nor are they taking advantage of their customers. They are privately negotiating and contracting in consensual services among adults and the complaints being filed and prosecuted are by people who do not apply the law equally. It's a disgrace.

**Niteluvr** · 12-09-20 21:37

Originally Posted by Bossman1969 [View Original Post]

Never saw her. But I guess that some monger did not want to pay so she took care of him.

Did you bother to read the article? The woman stated that the guy she shot was a "friend" from Chicago whom she had known a long time. If she was renting her pussy, he was likely her handler or a facilitator and I assume there was a dispute over money (often is in these cases) so she shot him.

Welcome to the dark side of the are&B / rap lifestyle.

**Niteluvr** · 12-09-20 21:33

Originally Posted by TheWiseacre [View Original Post]

https://reason.com/2020/12/02/florid...-prostitution/

The outcome of this case is really sickening, a sad commentary on how the major media outlets get the crux of the story wrong ("trafficking! And focus on prurient content.

A raid on your favorite parlor can be very devastating to the owners and providers. FS shops in particular seem at greatest risks, but there are activist prosecutors (the Department of Homeland Security, locals) who apparently will spend a lot of time and money on this kind of thing. Prosecutors took passports and froze bank accounts while they made noise in the news.

Maybe the feds targeting the owner / masseuses isn't fair since they had no case against the customers, but I would never feel sorry for a CAMP owner or masseuse anywhere. Do you realise how much money these places rake in? A paltry $31 k fine is pocket change. Also, this was Jupiter, Florida, home to a lot of rich guys who probably tip very well. That parlor likely made millions before it was shut down.

**Frankie14** · 12-09-20 18:11

Originally Posted by Ozymandias [View Original Post]

I'm pretty sure I fucked this girl. A few years ago there was an "up and coming singer" or rapper or something from Chicago renting out vagina space in Atlanta. Spitting image of this chick, except shorter hair.

My imagination, or does anyone remember her? (I can't recall the name she was going by).

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...n-head-georgia

O.

This is totally crazy. That's why I carry my compact 9 mm in my bag at all times (except inside of strip clubs, of course).

**Bossman1969** · 12-09-20 17:44

Originally Posted by Ozymandias [View Original Post]

I'm pretty sure I fucked this girl. A few years ago there was an "up and coming singer" or rapper or something from Chicago renting out vagina space in Atlanta. Spitting image of this chick, except shorter hair.

My imagination, or does anyone remember her? (I can't recall the name she was going by).

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...n-head-georgia

O.

Never saw her. But I guess that some monger did not want to pay so she took care of him.

**Ozymandias** · 12-09-20 17:06

I'm pretty sure I fucked this girl. A few years ago there was an "up and coming singer" or rapper or something from Chicago renting out vagina space in Atlanta. Spitting image of this chick, except shorter hair.

My imagination, or does anyone remember her? (I can't recall the name she was going by).

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...n-head-georgia

O.

**The Wiseacre** · 12-03-20 08:08

https://reason.com/2020/12/02/florid...-prostitution/

The outcome of this case is really sickening, a sad commentary on how the major media outlets get the crux of the story wrong ("trafficking! And focus on prurient content.

A raid on your favorite parlor can be very devastating to the owners and providers. FS shops in particular seem at greatest risks, but there are activist prosecutors (the Department of Homeland Security, locals) who apparently will spend a lot of time and money on this kind of thing. Prosecutors took passports and froze bank accounts while they made noise in the news.

**The Wiseacre** · 11-18-20 11:34

Originally Posted by HaneDales [View Original Post]

Depends on how you define fed but White House and congress are the epitome of it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...ting-innocent/

Trump passed a lot of legislation included the biggest budget for anti-human trafficking.

I'm saying the Federal Government does not currently prohibit prostitution. But like many things that are not explicitly part of Federal Code, the various agencies in the federal government can (and do) codify many things that are not challengeable until litigated. Similarly, the Executive Branch (the president) has wide latitude to create Executive Orders that are, again, the law of the land unless challenged successfully in court. Finally, federal attorney generals can decide what to and not to prosecute so there is a lot of latitude there as well (this is obviously how marijuana is "legal".

The point being, as you noted, rather than take on a polarizing issue head on (like the legality of prostitution at a federal level), they just use legislative or executive authority to regulate / influence.

**ILoveHo** · 11-18-20 10:13

Originally Posted by SgtSoros [View Original Post]

Yep, Montreal, QC has a preponderance of beautiful women, probably the most beautiful women in N. America.

I totally agree with you. The girls there are gorgeous, friendly and reasonable. I have not found a US city to provide the same level of quality, quantity and totally reasonable price. The Canadian exchange is also very favorable for US mongers. I had a few girls there and most are close to 10 quality. I can possibly find similar quality in the USA, but then you may have to pay 1 k and up. Just imagine the best looking girl in Cheetah, Pink Pony, Oasis available for 200 or less.

**HaneDales** · 11-18-20 08:47

Depends on how you define fed but White House and congress are the epitome of it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...ting-innocent/

Trump passed a lot of legislation included the biggest budget for anti-human trafficking.

Originally Posted by TheWiseacre [View Original Post]

Not to pick nits, but it's legal in a couple of counties in Nevada. And it was legal in Rhode Island from 1980 - 2009. And yes, the feds can prosecute some elements of prostitution but prostitution is a states thing here. And probably 20% of men have outright paid for sex in the USA.
A $14 B industry in the underground, not getting taxed. At least AMPs are getting taxed.

O is right: there is very little momentum to change drug or prostitution laws. And another reason is that polarizing issues are great fund raising tools for BOTH sides of the aisle.

**Sgt Soros** · 11-18-20 06:53

Originally Posted by ComTech42 [View Original Post]

Toronto was nothing special. Montreal had a lot of beautiful ladies if the liked you the would speak in English, if not all you got was.Was babbling in French. That was my experience.

Yep, Montreal, QC has a preponderance of beautiful women, probably the most beautiful women in N. America.

**JunkSecond** · 11-18-20 06:46

Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]

Just think how long prostitution has been legal in certain parts of Nevada and nowhere else in America. For a politician to show up at a meeting of his peers and say, "Hey, we should decriminalize prostitution," would be introducing political roadkill. If prostitution is ever tolerated in this country, I'm guessing the liberal states would allow it first and any Bible Belt states would be dead last.

My liberal friends are actually opposed to it as they jump straight to the "human trafficking" victim narrative cause nobody just enjoys sex and sees you can make money from it. The government needs to protect those people. And deliver equality.

My conservative non religious friends were more or less ok with the idea of it once a rational discussion took place.

My baptist friends don't like dancing as it could lead to impure thoughts.

Try it with your circle of friends. “So I read another article about Robert Kraft. I think we should be spending tax dollars to keep people safe not dicks dry. What do you think?”