"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Shampoo55** · 11-19-20 20:25

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

Lots of these vendors are non-US, and it can be difficult to pay for the membership discreetly, w / a prepaid debit card. I use a pretty secure / discreet email vendor, Hushmail. And they are in Vancouver. The standard OneVanilla doesn't work with them (I have their paid account, as it allows unlimited email aliases. I have two aliases I use for my profiles on SA, I can't use the proper email addresses, they've both been banned). Anyway, I asked Hushmail how to pay for my renewal, and they mentioned:

You could try a pre-paid credit card such as the one in this link.

https://www.mastercard.ca/en-ca/cons...gift-card.html

It is accepted internationally so there shouldn't be any issues.

Thanks for sharing that! IF memory serves one of the sites requires an international component to the prepaid payment for it to work. I'll book mark this for future use.

**ItsAHobby45** · 11-19-20 16:33

Originally Posted by Lobsid [View Original Post]

That's some driving. I do within 2 hrs drive, but I use my businessCC to paid for gas. If your going to spend that much on gas maybe increase your ppm to the ones who are closer to you.

Yes, the sooner you meetup the better, and a little alcohol always helps. I had only one girl not want to meetup with me again after the 1st date. We agreed on BBFS, but she got upset when I cip her. Other then that all the girls after the 1st date know that you have control of the situation. At that point you can slowly push the line on what these girls will do.

Ps no need to ask about the girl I cip. She off the site now.

I travel for work so I'm able to expense all my fuel / hotels / food. I consider it a perk of the job. As far as raising my ppm and seeing girls in this area, I have seen all the ones I'm interested in around here. I'm very particular and that limits my options. I find that I prefer the girls away from big cities. I've found that the NC and PA girls that live in more rural areas are better for me and I don't mind traveling to them.

**Member #7176** · 11-19-20 14:07

That's some driving. I do within 2 hrs drive, but I use my businessCC to paid for gas. If your going to spend that much on gas maybe increase your ppm to the ones who are closer to you.

Yes, the sooner you meetup the better, and a little alcohol always helps. I had only one girl not want to meetup with me again after the 1st date. We agreed on BBFS, but she got upset when I cip her. Other then that all the girls after the 1st date know that you have control of the situation. At that point you can slowly push the line on what these girls will do.

Ps no need to ask about the girl I cip. She off the site now.

Originally Posted by ItsAHobby45 [View Original Post]

It's really a craps shoot with these girls. Some of them seem to be more impulse driven and need that decisive and direct communication up front while others you have to slow play to get them comfortable. I tend to enjoy the ones that require a certain level of comfort before meeting as this isn't just about sex to me. I have a SO at home that is more than happy to do whatever I ask her to do for me but I genuinely enjoy getting to know these girls and spending alone time with them. I've recently increased my search radius on seeking to 250 miles with age range of 18-21 and am having a lot of success finding the sugar babies that I prefer. I am currently rotating between 3 didn't girls and only one of them lives in central VA. The other two are 3-5 hours away.

**FarFarAway** · 11-19-20 13:09

Lots of these vendors are non-US, and it can be difficult to pay for the membership discreetly, w / a prepaid debit card. I use a pretty secure / discreet email vendor, Hushmail. And they are in Vancouver. The standard OneVanilla doesn't work with them (I have their paid account, as it allows unlimited email aliases. I have two aliases I use for my profiles on SA, I can't use the proper email addresses, they've both been banned). Anyway, I asked Hushmail how to pay for my renewal, and they mentioned:

You could try a pre-paid credit card such as the one in this link.

https://www.mastercard.ca/en-ca/cons...gift-card.html

It is accepted internationally so there shouldn't be any issues.

**ItsAHobby45** · 11-19-20 12:30

Originally Posted by BaldEagle [View Original Post]

I have been on S. A. Off and on for over 5 years. My past experience has been to get to a safe private meeting place as soon as possible. These girls are hot and cold. The non pros with a little wine will do things they may not do sober. Once you start a physical friendship its done. She will normally meet you in the future. You mentioned in you post that you reached out to her the following week that may have turned out differently if you had scheduled a next meeting the next day or gone to a room then. Many of the girls don't know what they want or what they will do. I have seen some that have no intention of a physical friendship and boom they are all in. It is about the money. Put a little urgency in your search I think you will have better results. Remember they are being hit with message after message from potential sugar daddys like you. The better looking she is the more they have to try to keep all the messages straight. Remember 50 percent of meeting don't happen somebody gets cold feet.

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It's really a craps shoot with these girls. Some of them seem to be more impulse driven and need that decisive and direct communication up front while others you have to slow play to get them comfortable. I tend to enjoy the ones that require a certain level of comfort before meeting as this isn't just about sex to me. I have a SO at home that is more than happy to do whatever I ask her to do for me but I genuinely enjoy getting to know these girls and spending alone time with them. I've recently increased my search radius on seeking to 250 miles with age range of 18-21 and am having a lot of success finding the sugar babies that I prefer. I am currently rotating between 3 didn't girls and only one of them lives in central VA. The other two are 3-5 hours away.

**Bald Eagle** · 11-19-20 10:30

I have been on S. A. Off and on for over 5 years. My past experience has been to get to a safe private meeting place as soon as possible. These girls are hot and cold. The non pros with a little wine will do things they may not do sober. Once you start a physical friendship its done. She will normally meet you in the future. You mentioned in you post that you reached out to her the following week that may have turned out differently if you had scheduled a next meeting the next day or gone to a room then. Many of the girls don't know what they want or what they will do. I have seen some that have no intention of a physical friendship and boom they are all in. It is about the money. Put a little urgency in your search I think you will have better results. Remember they are being hit with message after message from potential sugar daddys like you. The better looking she is the more they have to try to keep all the messages straight. Remember 50 percent of meeting don't happen somebody gets cold feet.

Originally Posted by Gyxser70 [View Original Post]

I paid for a membership around a month ago now and just chiming in on what's happened so far. I'm not local to VA, but I enjoy this thread most. Where I'm from, bars, restaurants, etc. Are closed for the next three weeks now due to a spike in Covid.

I've messaged around 150-200 profiles now and talked to lots of different girls; so far no concrete arrangement with anyone.

Before I mentioned that only 2 girls out of the 50-75 I talked to before at the time would be a possibility on meeting.

So I met with one of them- very gorgeous blonde hair, blue eyed late 20 something. She check marked all the boxes for me and after a couple of hours together at a bar, I thought we had come to an agreement. She could host, and was $$ PPM. Home run, right?.

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**Gyxser70** · 11-18-20 18:30

I paid for a membership around a month ago now and just chiming in on what's happened so far. I'm not local to VA, but I enjoy this thread most. Where I'm from, bars, restaurants, etc. Are closed for the next three weeks now due to a spike in Covid.

I've messaged around 150-200 profiles now and talked to lots of different girls; so far no concrete arrangement with anyone.

Before I mentioned that only 2 girls out of the 50-75 I talked to before at the time would be a possibility on meeting.

So I met with one of them- very gorgeous blonde hair, blue eyed late 20 something. She check marked all the boxes for me and after a couple of hours together at a bar, I thought we had come to an agreement. She could host, and was $$ PPM. Home run, right?

Before we parted ways, we made out a little bit and I felt her up some. When I reached out to her the following week, I never heard anything at all from her. She still has her page up so I'm sure she found someone she liked more.

When reaching out to a POT I keep things very light and generally ask what their ideal arrangement is like to them and their availability to meet. Even with getting to the point immediately, I get lots of messages left on read, etc. Messages that I get from girls, I'm usually not very attracted to them.

It's a little bit of a pain, but I'll give it a little longer before hanging it up. You would think it's real simple to meet someone on there who would like to go out together occasionally and then have some alone time. I'm not much older.

Than a lot of the girls I message.

**Ernest Ll** · 11-18-20 13:11

Originally Posted by GolfMan57 [View Original Post]

Do you have a link?

https://www.seeking.com/member/99805...c-f4919ebefedf

**ItsAHobby45** · 11-18-20 12:29

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/39407...c-8f7bd7633ae4

Profile photo of her sitting in a private jet. Hmmm.

Don't let that fool you. We fly $10/ hour employees in our corporate planes all the time so she can hang that up 😂.

**Geechie Dan** · 11-18-20 11:22

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/498ad...c-d8e90e20f8fe

Face seems a little too chubby for a slim build. Waiting for her to accept snapchat invite so I can see more.

Some good messaging, seems to be DTF, but who knows. Anyone else get anywhere?

I'm working on that too. LOL.

**GolfMan57** · 11-18-20 11:21

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

Cute + hot body + sexy private picc + new to town + done this before + recently divorced = DTF.

Do you have a link?

**Ernest Ll** · 11-18-20 10:20

Cute + hot body + sexy private picc + new to town + done this before + recently divorced = DTF.

**Ernest Ll** · 11-18-20 10:19

https://www.seeking.com/member/39407...c-8f7bd7633ae4

Profile photo of her sitting in a private jet. Hmmm.

**Ernest Ll** · 11-18-20 10:18

https://www.seeking.com/member/498ad...c-d8e90e20f8fe

Face seems a little too chubby for a slim build. Waiting for her to accept snapchat invite so I can see more.

Some good messaging, seems to be DTF, but who knows. Anyone else get anywhere?

**Geechie Dan** · 11-17-20 17:54

Originally Posted by ItsAHobby45 [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/ef87b...1-3939d230b12b

Hey guys, met this one after a day of texting. Met me right at the FC. She did want to meet for coffee first but I declined so we met in lobby for a second but followed me right up to the room. She's a college student just trying to make some extra money. She said she's seeing a few sd's and even mentioned that one of them is a member of a "forum" where guys discuss sb's. While I'm personally not super attracted to Asians I wanted to check that one off my list and she is really pretty. She seems like a really nice girl so treat her right.

What was the damage?