General Reports

**Grain 56** · 10-29-20 16:03

Usually starting just before Halloween and going pretty steady through about Thanksgiving (many times even through the end of the year) there USUALLY are hundreds if not thousands of young ladies who love to party, diverge on Orlando. This year, they won't show due to cancellations from Covid-19. They show up in groups and gaggles; they show up with boy friends or other friends, they are college kids, millennial, homeless migrants, free-spirits, party girls, goths, witches and everything in between. They come to party and they OFTEN times get left behind due to fights, irresponsibility of themselves or others in their group, misunderstandings, drugs or think they've found nirvana and want to stay.

These ladies usually arrive for Halloween Horror Nights, many would stay through (and a lot more come in for) the Electric Daisy Carnival and a percentage of them stay through Thanksgiving and even into the New Year, many times due to reasons mentioned above. Usually starting around this time we see an increase of these girls (many super hot) who will advertise their services and even walk the streets. The longer they stay, the more desperate and cheaper they seem to get. Several end up drug zombies and end up being stuck here for months. Eventually they filter out but some stay a while. During the EDC, you'd see nothing but hot chicks walking up and down OBT at all hours of the day and night. This year I think it will be quiet. That's bad news for us.

COVID SUCKS!

Grain 56.

**Camera3** · 10-29-20 15:36

So, I Googled my own pic and got about ten thousand hits of similar. Now, a few really were, some really weren't, including one of Obama (I am a white guy) and another of a homeless guy with a beard (I don't have a beard) and a few movie stars. I picked one that was close enough and that is what I send. I have seen two girls that required it and accepted me and neither seemed to notice the guy that showed up (me) wasn't the guy in the pic.

I'm guessing the pics of the dead presidents were enough.

Play safe,

C3.

Originally Posted by Miketastic69 [View Original Post]

Imagine, a provider gets busted and gives up her phone. A picture of your drivers license is included. How do you explain that to work, spouse, court? When her MO is to collect picture before giving you paid sexual services?

**Miketastic69** · 10-29-20 14:47

Originally Posted by JayJayTwo [View Original Post]

I've done the same thing, pulled a "stock" photo off of the internet and sent that. I've never had a provider ghost me after sending the photo. Then, once you get to the meeting location, it's fairly unlikely the provider would call you out on it and even more unlikely that she'll refuse to go through with the date. Very simple solution to the issue of not wanting to send a real picture to the provider that requires a picture before meeting.

I mentioned not sending I'd photo, and stand by that but there's nothing to stop you from sending a body Or face-double pic. I prefer Brad Pitt for me but nobody ever falls for it, so I'm stuck with silent bob from Jay and Silent Bob.

I typically balk at sending anything unless little head prevails. Then, it's the stunt double or nothing at all.

**Guyana95** · 10-29-20 13:13

Anyone seen Yasmine, she claims to be GFE, but no reviews. TIA.

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...430/3212703387

**Xdrianly** · 10-29-20 12:46

Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]

Small petite latina with dragon tattoo on her ass cheek. Quoted 200 hh 300 hh, incall near the airport. HJ to get you up, no BJ, CG with latina riding twerking skills, no GFE no kissing tits, mish, k9 seems open to positions but YMMV. FYI her handlers are a hispanic gang. She was bored and uninterested and fake moaning and asking to hurry up. Won't repeat
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/3212604802

Hello everyone,

I introduce myself, I am Adrianly / Adriana. I don't know how you know me. If I am here making this statement, it is because I care about my work and because I care about each of my clients. I have a bad review, a very bad one. I want to clarify that I am not part of any gang nor do I have anything to do with something similar. I am not used to rushing my clients you pay me for a service, if you want a qv it is 15 min therefore I watch over my work because this is my job I cannot give you my time. I also understand that we can all have a bad day this job is not easy my loves. I consider myself well open mind. I invite you all to go to my snapchat Badriana221 we will be able to dialogue better and I answer each of your questions. To the person from the review; Let's talk like grown-ups; I wish you a beautiful morning.

**MikeDoes** · 10-29-20 11:59

I appreciate the advice, I guess I didn't really consider she's probably not going to call me on it LOL. Also I must attempt I normally just walk up to the room, if the pics looks real and the comm is good then I feel comfortable doing that; Very rarely have I gone to a house (Too many ways I see that going wrong). I will use the pool area in future dreams for sure.

**JayJayTwo** · 10-29-20 11:40

Originally Posted by Grain56 [View Original Post]

I agree that you can find other providers if she insists on pics. If you do still want to see that provider, read on.

There is a way around this if you feel you have to send a pic. All you have to do is send a fake picture pulled from the internet of what ever body part that provider is asking. I literally searched "average looking guy" picture on the internet and found a picture that looks similar to me and have sent that. I use it whenever I need to, it never has failed. I originally found one that actually was TOO close looking to me that it actually fooled my family! It was eerily identical. I don't use that one any longer and found a similar one. When searching, some of you may need to use some other descriptor than average looking guy, maybe above average or below average. LOL.

I try to never need to use the identifying picture. If she has used HER real pic in her ads or sent her real pic and I am not 100% comfortable with the situation, I send a fake pic even less like I look and always ask to meet outside the house or the room. I ask to meet near the pool area, parking lot or some other common area or place before going to the house / room. I will then recognise her and approach her, not the other way around. I approach her and introduce myself. This also is a good tip to avoid a sting situation. LEO will NOT generally meet you outside the room. Using a fake pic also has another benefit to use one. If you are spoken to by LEO, you can always say and prove, "that's NOT me". I also never give my actual car type to a provider either when asked. Same reason. I don't want LEO or possible handlers trying to rob me approaching me in a parking lot.

If she wants a dick pic, find one that resembles you (or not) and send it to her. What is she going to do, match it up to you in person and turn you away when the veins don't match up? NOT when there's $$ waiting for her. Many members have mentioned to never send a real dick pic, I agree. There are tons of reasons not to send real pics and I can't think of a single reason to do it. If the provider EVER finds out your real name and info, she (or her handler) now possesses something that she can easily use against you for blackmale purposes. I bet your wife CAN match up the veins! You would be in a rough spot.

Just my thoughts.

Grain 56.

I've done the same thing, pulled a "stock" photo off of the internet and sent that. I've never had a provider ghost me after sending the photo. Then, once you get to the meeting location, it's fairly unlikely the provider would call you out on it and even more unlikely that she'll refuse to go through with the date. Very simple solution to the issue of not wanting to send a real picture to the provider that requires a picture before meeting.

**Bjceb** · 10-29-20 11:28

That is great advice. You have to love this forum to get a different perspective about ongoing issues we all come across in this hobby.

Stay safe and have fun!

[QUOTE=Grain56;5047487]I agree that you can find other providers if she insists on pics. If you do still want to see that provider, read on.

There is a way around this if you feel you have to send a pic. All you have to do is send a fake picture pulled from the internet of what ever body part that provider is asking. I literally searched "average looking guy" picture on the internet and found a picture that looks similar to me and have sent that. I use it whenever I need to, it never has failed. I originally found one that actually was TOO close looking to me that it actually fooled my family! It was eerily identical. I don't use that one any longer and found a similar one. When searching, some of you may need to use some other descriptor than average looking guy, maybe above average or below average. LOL.

I try to never need to use the identifying picture. If she has used HER real pic in her ads or sent her real pic and I am not 100% comfortable with the situation, I send a fake pic even less like I look and always ask to meet outside the house or the room. I ask to meet near the pool area, parking lot or some other common area or place before going to the house / room. I will then recognise her and approach her, not the other way around. I approach her and introduce myself. This also is a good tip to avoid a sting situation. LEO will NOT generally meet you outside the room. Using a fake pic also has another benefit to use one. If you are spoken to by LEO, you can always say and prove, "that's NOT me". I also never give my actual car type to a provider either when asked. Same reason. I don't want LEO or possible handlers trying to rob me approaching me in a parking lot.

If she wants a dick pic, find one that resembles you (or not) and send it to her. What is she going to do, match it up to you in person and turn you away when the veins don't match up? NOT when there's $$ waiting for her. Many members have mentioned to never send a real dick pic, I agree. There are tons of reasons not to send real pics and I can't think of a single reason to do it. If the provider EVER finds out your real name and info, she (or her handler) now possesses something that she can easily use against you for blackmale purposes. I bet your wife CAN match up the veins! You would be in a rough spot.

Just my thoughts.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=MikeDoes;5045100]For awhile now I've seen girls posting about needing photo verification before they'll meet-up; I know it's most likely a safety thing, but I would think if they needed the $ then that wouldn't matter. I've definitely skipped contacting providers because of that. Has anyone found a good way around that? Or are guys really sending these girls their picture?Thanks.[/QUOTE

Originally Posted by ReturnOfBlade [View Original Post]

If you're not comfortable it's best to move on. You're not alone. It's a no for me as well 99.9% of the time. In all my years in this hobby I've only made exactly ONE exception. I sent a dick pic for verification and only because this provided had 40 positive reviews on the LC site with respectable rates. It felt weird sending it, but at the same time I felt comfortable based on the plethora of reviews she had. It's not something I foresee myself ever doing again. Definitely not my face ever. There are plenty of providers who don't require photo verification.

**SevenYearMitch** · 10-29-20 11:04

Originally Posted by Grain56 [View Original Post]

The Pic Dilemma and How to Handle

I agree that you can find other providers if she insists on pics. If you do still want to see that provider, read on.

There is a way around this if you feel you have to send a pic. All you have to do is send a fake picture pulled from the internet of what ever body part that provider is asking. I literally searched "average looking guy" picture on the internet and found a picture that looks similar to me and have sent that. I use it whenever I need to, it never has failed. I originally found one that actually was TOO close looking to me that it actually fooled my family! It was eerily identical. I don't use that one any longer and found a similar one. When searching, some of you may need to use some other descriptor than average looking guy, maybe above average or below average. LOL...

This is very good advice from G56. I used a slight variation of his technique when I met with Scarlett Rose / Liza Lust last year. It worked great and we had a good laugh about it - see my old review of her below for details.

Link to my first review of Scarlett Rose / Liza Lust:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post4279446

SYM

**Grain 56** · 10-29-20 10:32

I agree that you can find other providers if she insists on pics. If you do still want to see that provider, read on.

There is a way around this if you feel you have to send a pic. All you have to do is send a fake picture pulled from the internet of what ever body part that provider is asking. I literally searched "average looking guy" picture on the internet and found a picture that looks similar to me and have sent that. I use it whenever I need to, it never has failed. I originally found one that actually was TOO close looking to me that it actually fooled my family! It was eerily identical. I don't use that one any longer and found a similar one. When searching, some of you may need to use some other descriptor than average looking guy, maybe above average or below average. LOL.

I try to never need to use the identifying picture. If she has used HER real pic in her ads or sent her real pic and I am not 100% comfortable with the situation, I send a fake pic even less like I look and always ask to meet outside the house or the room. I ask to meet near the pool area, parking lot or some other common area or place before going to the house / room. I will then recognise her and approach her, not the other way around. I approach her and introduce myself. This also is a good tip to avoid a sting situation. LEO will NOT generally meet you outside the room. Using a fake pic also has another benefit to use one. If you are spoken to by LEO, you can always say and prove, "that's NOT me". I also never give my actual car type to a provider either when asked. Same reason. I don't want LEO or possible handlers trying to rob me approaching me in a parking lot.

If she wants a dick pic, find one that resembles you (or not) and send it to her. What is she going to do, match it up to you in person and turn you away when the veins don't match up? NOT when there's $$ waiting for her. Many members have mentioned to never send a real dick pic, I agree. There are tons of reasons not to send real pics and I can't think of a single reason to do it. If the provider EVER finds out your real name and info, she (or her handler) now possesses something that she can easily use against you for blackmale purposes. I bet your wife CAN match up the veins! You would be in a rough spot.

Just my thoughts.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=MikeDoes;5045100]For awhile now I've seen girls posting about needing photo verification before they'll meet-up; I know it's most likely a safety thing, but I would think if they needed the $ then that wouldn't matter. I've definitely skipped contacting providers because of that. Has anyone found a good way around that? Or are guys really sending these girls their picture?Thanks.[/QUOTE

Originally Posted by DixenCider [View Original Post]

No way to get around it if the provider insists. I would just let them know its not something I'm comfortable with and if she won't budge than its best to find another provider.

[QUOTE=ReturnOfBlade;5047040]If you're not comfortable it's best to move on. You're not alone. It's a no for me as well 99.9% of the time. In all my years in this hobby I've only made exactly ONE exception. I sent a dick pic for verification and only because this provided had 40 positive reviews on the LC site with respectable rates. It felt weird sending it, but at the same time I felt comfortable based on the plethora of reviews she had. It's not something I foresee myself ever doing again. Definitely not my face ever. There are plenty of providers who don't require photo verification.[/QUOTE

Originally Posted by Miketastic69 [View Original Post]

Imagine, a provider gets busted and gives up her phone. A picture of your drivers license is included. How do you explain that to work, spouse, court? When her MO is to collect picture before giving you paid sexual services?

**OrlandoLiving2** · 10-29-20 10:18

I have had some specific experience with this. While I am not a law enforcement officer, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! Seriously, I do have a legal background though. Sending a picture of your genitals is called dissemination of explicit sexual material and is a crime. Level varies by jurisdiction. I have asked a law enforcement officer who is a hobbyist about the dick pick requirement and have been told, "law enforcement can not disseminate sexual material in the furtherance of an investigation. " The single biggest reason being the possibility of dissemination to minors. To the best of both of our knowledge, it has not been presented in a court case, yet. I know many girls who require a dick pick before they will see a client. While anyone should rightly be leary, perform your due diligence as best you can seems to me to be common sense. Clearly, sending the picture is dissemination of sexual material. I would not contact nor send a picture to someone I have not checked out as best I could first, before I even pick up the phone. My primary rule is search of the provider's phone number should return a sufficient amount of links to varying advertisements over a period of time. Secondly, they must have varying reviews from different sites also over a period of time. This process certainly eliminates some savory options, but I do believe it has served me well. So, your dick pick gives your provider the confidence that you are not law enforcement. In regards to using common sense, I use a burner phone changed out monthly, available everywhere dirt cheap, pay cash. I never send a picture including my face. I was asked for a copy of my drivers license recently. Screw that. My final thought to add fellow members, is the laugh I get at those who ask "are you in any way affiliated with law enforcement?" as if this CYA. There is clear precedent in the courts that a law enforcement officer may lie in furtherance of an investigation. Lying is one thing. Committing an actual crime in furtherance of an investigation is another. Keep in mind that in our hobby both sides are interested in covering their back side. Simply use common sense with your activity, perform your due diligence and go with your Gibbs gut.

Originally Posted by ReturnOfBlade [View Original Post]

If you're not comfortable it's best to move on. You're not alone. It's a no for me as well 99.9% of the time. In all my years in this hobby I've only made exactly ONE exception. I sent a dick pic for verification and only because this provided had 40 positive reviews on the LC site with respectable rates. It felt weird sending it, but at the same time I felt comfortable based on the plethora of reviews she had. It's not something I foresee myself ever doing again. Definitely not my face ever. There are plenty of providers who don't require photo verification.

**Miketastic69** · 10-29-20 09:26

Originally Posted by ReturnOfBlade [View Original Post]

If you're not comfortable it's best to move on. You're not alone. It's a no for me as well 99.9% of the time. In all my years in this hobby I've only made exactly ONE exception. I sent a dick pic for verification and only because this provided had 40 positive reviews on the LC site with respectable rates. It felt weird sending it, but at the same time I felt comfortable based on the plethora of reviews she had. It's not something I foresee myself ever doing again. Definitely not my face ever. There are plenty of providers who don't require photo verification.

Imagine, a provider gets busted and gives up her phone. A picture of your drivers license is included. How do you explain that to work, spouse, court? When her MO is to collect picture before giving you paid sexual services?

**ReturnOfBlade** · 10-28-20 23:32

If you're not comfortable it's best to move on. You're not alone. It's a no for me as well 99.9% of the time. In all my years in this hobby I've only made exactly ONE exception. I sent a dick pic for verification and only because this provided had 40 positive reviews on the LC site with respectable rates. It felt weird sending it, but at the same time I felt comfortable based on the plethora of reviews she had. It's not something I foresee myself ever doing again. Definitely not my face ever. There are plenty of providers who don't require photo verification.

Originally Posted by MikeDoes [View Original Post]

For awhile now I've seen girls posting about needing photo verification before they'll meet-up; I know it's most likely a safety thing, but I would think if they needed the $ then that wouldn't matter. I've definitely skipped contacting providers because of that. Has anyone found a good way around that? Or are guys really sending these girls their picture?

Thanks.

**Rdoxsix3** · 10-28-20 19:27

Has anyone ever been to Secrets.

Have you had good time there or is it a waste of time?

**Yankee Doodle** · 10-28-20 11:24

Originally Posted by DumboTheJumbo [View Original Post]

Hey everyone, I joined a while back but haven't been active at all both in this forum and mongering. I didn't have anything to share or any questions to ask. With no posts, nobody is willing to share digits or info with me. Seems like a chicken and egg problem.

Someone please tell me how to gain some reputation here?

Read, click on a link for a lady with positive reviews, call, tell her you are new and ask if she'd like to see you, NEVER USE ANY WORDS ABOUT SEX, just that you'd like a visit, what is the suggested donation, newbies don't dicker. Pay a hundred or one and a half to build a base line, be polite! Fuck her and report back, even if she has a hundred reviews, we always like one more. Stick with the well established ladies until you learn the ropes. Repeat. Yd.