"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**FarFarAway** · 10-23-20 18:15

Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]

Just don't!

If she's GPS don't counter, just thank her for her time and walk away. If it's close, just tell her your number and forget about her if it's not to her liking. There is nothing to be gained from protracted back and forth on numbers. This is those that like the non-pro, college girls. If you're dealing with a hardened pro then go ahead and treat it like you're haggling a piece of meat, in the end it won't matter.

On a general note, I'm floored by what some of you guys pay for pussy. Either you're desperate AF or something but paying 3-400 for a bland single mommy of 35yo is simply insane. Good god. For that amount she should be nothing less than a 21 yo, 100lbs hottie.

Be sure you are discussing this in person, at the M&G. It's been said that you'll not FC w / a girl if you don't have an agreement at the end of the M&G. Not strictly true, but close. Girls are much more likely to ask for more by text or email. It always is hard to be rejected in person, she will ask less. I also don't like to get into back and forth about $. I try to stick to 300-350, but if she wants 400 and will do me the favor of getting a room, I'll agree. I have a SO, I appreciate their investment in my discretion.

And, I would never see a bland 35 YO again. My whole goal in the bowl is to fuck high quality pussy. The most I have ever done was 600, for someone I had a personal / emotional investment in. The least, a 150 Cinderella makeup kit (LOL! None of them would ever be thought to be fucking an old guy like me, for dough or otherwise, but they knew what they wanted. This is how you get a good price for high quality. You have to be her kink.

**Ernest Ll** · 10-23-20 18:00

Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]

On a general note, I'm floored by what some of you guys pay for pussy. Either you're desperate AF or something but paying 3-400 for a bland single mommy of 35yo is simply insane. Good god. For that amount she should be nothing less than a 21 yo, 100lbs hottie.

Plus once you have points of comparison, don't pay a premium just to nail someone new.

I've got two regulars.

One Asian spinner in college.

One beautiful, built hottie in her late 20's.

Both are BBFS, C whereever I want, 3 input, submissive and bi.

Either are $300 per meet, as long as I can last.

Everyone else is compared to that option and few can compete.

**EvilTmp** · 10-23-20 17:40

Originally Posted by Gatsby804 [View Original Post]

Just in general, how much success does everyone have when it comes to talk down a price on a girl. I am starting to notice 2 different scenarios:

1) The girls has mild to major GPS and demands an amount that she read about in new articles or from that call her daddy podcast.

2) Girls who really have no idea what they are doing and also with one foot out the door on entire lifestyle.

Since we are all savy business negotiators, what has everyone's experiences been on getting the price down. I ve had mixed success. I am started off fairly tight about money but have slowly loosen up a bit. Mainly bc I noticed that a lot of SBs actually don't know how to say no. I think what's happening is they just will bookmark your off and just settle on the highest bidder with a mixture of other traits they like. Everyone else will end up getting dragged on as a possible backup or straight get ghosts even though an agreement was reached initially. How much success have everyone had with haggling prices? Is the fight even worth fighting for the long term?

Just don't!

If she's GPS don't counter, just thank her for her time and walk away. If it's close, just tell her your number and forget about her if it's not to her liking. There is nothing to be gained from protracted back and forth on numbers. This is those that like the non-pro, college girls. If you're dealing with a hardened pro then go ahead and treat it like you're haggling a piece of meat, in the end it won't matter.

On a general note, I'm floored by what some of you guys pay for pussy. Either you're desperate AF or something but paying 3-400 for a bland single mommy of 35yo is simply insane. Good god. For that amount she should be nothing less than a 21 yo, 100lbs hottie.

**Jcn1965** · 10-23-20 15:06

Originally Posted by Lobsid [View Original Post]

I don't ask for a lower price unless it's crazy. To me it's not question about money. Its if she is worth it. If it's too high I just say sorry that's higher then market value. I would give her my price, and tell her if she interested let me know. If it's with in reason, but still a little high, I will negotiate service. I would ask her to host, that way I save on hotel expense. That's what I'm doing with 1 of my current SBs. If she can't host I would ask for to do all the weird sexual fetishes that I would like to try. Normally these SBs are not keepers. 1-3 dates just to do does fetishes. Thanks, to SBs I have done all my sexual fetishes that was on my bucket list. Well almost all, I haven't try a woman who is lactating. Want to try some milk, but just has a M&G with one today. She even brought her baby to the M&G and breast fed infront of me. Date set for next Thursday. Biggest sexual fantasy is to have a harem. I'm living that live now. 2020 blows, but sexual its been awesome for me.

I agree I don't haggle and I always say qv at first meeting and it's a loss I can handle if it sux however if she exceeds my expectations then I can always bump up. To me if you talk down then you gunna get talked down service with attitude. I'd rather pay more for a girl whose skills are subpar but makes up for it with enthusiasm then the opposite. Just me YMMV.

**Ernest Ll** · 10-23-20 14:40

Originally Posted by Gatsby804 [View Original Post]

Just in general, how much success does everyone have when it comes to talk down a price on a girl. I am starting to notice 2 different scenarios:

1) The girls has mild to major GPS and demands an amount that she read about in new articles or from that call her daddy podcast.

2) Girls who really have no idea what they are doing and also with one foot out the door on entire lifestyle.

Since we are all savy business negotiators, what has everyone's experiences been on getting the price down. I ve had mixed success. I am started off fairly tight about money but have slowly loosen up a bit. Mainly bc I noticed that a lot of SBs actually don't know how to say no. I think what's happening is they just will bookmark your off and just settle on the highest bidder with a mixture of other traits they like. Everyone else will end up getting dragged on as a possible backup or straight get ghosts even though an agreement was reached initially. How much success have everyone had with haggling prices? Is the fight even worth fighting for the long term?

I lay out what I'm looking for -- I'm married, so its one public meeting for coffee or lunch, followed by (not always immediately) private time meetings going forward, meeting during bankers hours, has to be on in my home city (slim pickins in cville, but I don't travel for work, so theyd have to come here) either she hosts or is willing to book the room in her name, she if she is into anything kinky or not, then I ask what would be the "scholarship / rent subsidy / showcase showdown of cash and prizes" she would expect to join me in such an endeavor on a regular (2 xa month basis).

If they throw out a number, I weigh it against my existing stable of options and costs.

Sometimes they say, "I don't know, what are you offering?" and I usually say "$300" and wait for them to agree or counter. Sometimes Ill go higher (super hot, wants to be tied up and given anal, GND college type who's parents would die if they knew she liked getting railed by someone older than dad. Basic bucket list stuff).

When I travel out of town alone, I look for women up for a multi round slumber party, m but same process.

**Member #7176** · 10-23-20 14:11

I don't ask for a lower price unless it's crazy. To me it's not question about money. Its if she is worth it. If it's too high I just say sorry that's higher then market value. I would give her my price, and tell her if she interested let me know. If it's with in reason, but still a little high, I will negotiate service. I would ask her to host, that way I save on hotel expense. That's what I'm doing with 1 of my current SBs. If she can't host I would ask for to do all the weird sexual fetishes that I would like to try. Normally these SBs are not keepers. 1-3 dates just to do does fetishes. Thanks, to SBs I have done all my sexual fetishes that was on my bucket list. Well almost all, I haven't try a woman who is lactating. Want to try some milk, but just has a M&G with one today. She even brought her baby to the M&G and breast fed infront of me. Date set for next Thursday. Biggest sexual fantasy is to have a harem. I'm living that live now. 2020 blows, but sexual its been awesome for me.

Originally Posted by Gatsby804 [View Original Post]

Just in general, how much success does everyone have when it comes to talk down a price on a girl. I am starting to notice 2 different scenarios:

1) The girls has mild to major GPS and demands an amount that she read about in new articles or from that call her daddy podcast.

2) Girls who really have no idea what they are doing and also with one foot out the door on entire lifestyle.

Since we are all savy business negotiators, what has everyone's experiences been on getting the price down. I ve had mixed success. I am started off fairly tight about money but have slowly loosen up a bit. Mainly bc I noticed that a lot of SBs actually don't know how to say no. I think what's happening is they just will bookmark your off and just settle on the highest bidder with a mixture of other traits they like. Everyone else will end up getting dragged on as a possible backup or straight get ghosts even though an agreement was reached initially. How much success have everyone had with haggling prices? Is the fight even worth fighting for the long term?

**Gatsby804** · 10-23-20 02:30

Just in general, how much success does everyone have when it comes to talk down a price on a girl. I am starting to notice 2 different scenarios:

1) The girls has mild to major GPS and demands an amount that she read about in new articles or from that call her daddy podcast.

2) Girls who really have no idea what they are doing and also with one foot out the door on entire lifestyle.

Since we are all savy business negotiators, what has everyone's experiences been on getting the price down. I ve had mixed success. I am started off fairly tight about money but have slowly loosen up a bit. Mainly bc I noticed that a lot of SBs actually don't know how to say no. I think what's happening is they just will bookmark your off and just settle on the highest bidder with a mixture of other traits they like. Everyone else will end up getting dragged on as a possible backup or straight get ghosts even though an agreement was reached initially. How much success have everyone had with haggling prices? Is the fight even worth fighting for the long term?

**Zerry** · 10-22-20 14:09

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

-- super cute pics, and privates basically her in a bikini.

Says she is a 1st year at UVA, but also says she is still in L'burg -- parents made her do all virtual so she never moved in to a dorm.

Profile says she has been on SA a couple of weeks, but also says she has slept withy 2 SDs.

Texting with me and never mentioned BF other than she is cheating on him and needs discretion, so why would he be in the room.

Its all possible, just seems rather unlikely.

I've been texting her too. She 100% told me her boyfriend knows, and that he just hangs out in a different room. Told me the same thing about doing virtual school and having already fucked a couple sugar daddies.

**GolfMan57** · 10-22-20 14:00

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/8d5b1...3-f5a7660ae11a

Any progress?

Opened my messages but no response, maybe I'm not her type. LOL.

**Ernest Ll** · 10-22-20 11:09

https://www.seeking.com/member/8d5b1...3-f5a7660ae11a

Any progress?

**Ernest Ll** · 10-22-20 11:08

Originally Posted by Zerry [View Original Post]

Been chatting with this girl. If she lived closer to me I'd just meet up with her, but as is I'm not ready to pull the trigger on a 2 plus hour drive.

She is DTF, hosts, but has a boyfriend who waits in the living room. This isn't unheard of. Been there done that. But I'm not going to drive all that way without some confirmation that I'm walking into a dicey situation. If it was 10 min down the road I'd totally roll the dice though.

Any experience?

https://www.seeking.com/member/d8c78...9-62f45895f66f

-- super cute pics, and privates basically her in a bikini.

Says she is a 1st year at UVA, but also says she is still in L'burg -- parents made her do all virtual so she never moved in to a dorm.

Profile says she has been on SA a couple of weeks, but also says she has slept withy 2 SDs.

Texting with me and never mentioned BF other than she is cheating on him and needs discretion, so why would he be in the room.

Its all possible, just seems rather unlikely.

**Gyxser70** · 10-22-20 00:33

Originally Posted by Jcn1965 [View Original Post]

LOL so right. I'm 5'7 140 nothing. Ok looking at best. I make up for it with confidence and stamina LOL. These girls just want the $ and just good hygiene. Smell good with a Benjamin and your good.

You're right; I was overthinking it. I'll do just fine. Everything you said applies to me: good hygiene, smell good, I'm around 5'11", manverage LOL.

Thanks to the others who chimed in.

**Shampoo55** · 10-21-20 23:35

Originally Posted by Doug22 [View Original Post]

Just curious what FC means. I've seen it a few times but haven't figured it out yet.

Hmmm, looks like someone needs a bit of 'education"? LOL.

This thread will teach more than you care to know about the sugar bowl! Post #2 has definitions!

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-and-FAQ/page2

Good luck!

**Geechie Dan** · 10-21-20 21:09

Any info on this one? Fun size like I like 'them. Definitely DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d5f14...b-58fa79977ed3

**Jcn1965** · 10-21-20 20:13

Originally Posted by ArtImperial [View Original Post]

You're going to come across girls who think looks are important, but it hasn't been the norm in my experience. Yeah, maybe not guys who are super out of shape / overweight, but my impression is that more or less average guys are what these girls are expecting. Basically they want some cash and some excitement / experiences, and as long they feel safe and respected, they're willing to overlook the fact that you're not George Clooney.

LOL so right. I'm 5'7 140 nothing. Ok looking at best. I make up for it with confidence and stamina LOL. These girls just want the $ and just good hygiene. Smell good with a Benjamin and your good.