Arrangement Reports

**Pau Ford** · 09-19-20 00:02

Things have changed since then with Sesta / Fosta SA is now taking things very seriously. They don't want to get in any trouble at all and potentially ruin their cash cow. Month or two ago I had a girl steal some money from my desk. Reported her on SA, I didn't have any actual evidence and certainly no police report. I just told SA that she stole from me and they shut down her account within a matter of a few hours. Anyone reports anything on SA these days and they would rather just kill the account rather right away, problem solved / avoided.

Originally Posted by Grumpyinva [View Original Post]

I wish that was all it took to get kicked off of SA. I had a "robbed at gunpoint" event a couple of years back (she took me to a completely empty house that she said she was remodeling,) and, when the cash was set down, she literally dashed downstairs and ran for the back door and escaped, while a large man with a gun burst in through the front door, and started shouting at me about what was I doing in his house.

I reported the details and the texts leading up to it to SA, and the answer I got back was that I'd need to file a police report, or they weren't going to take it seriously. I thought it was crazy, since I'm sure I wasn't the only person this happened to. No police report for me, but I started taking operational security MUCH more seriously myself. A month later, her account was still active, so I let my SA premium expire, and have never been tempted to go back.

Maybe they only kick off the guys, for a complaint on the site, with messages on the site to prove it.

**OnlyDreams** · 09-18-20 23:49

I used to this this girl (4 or 5 on scale) on and off for 150 when other plans failed. She was happy with it and honestly she wasn't worth more than that. Covid came in, I updated my phone, then by mistake I deleted some contacts and lost touch with her. However, this morning I found her number and texted her. At first she didn't recognize me but then I told her some details to refresh her memory. So I asked her if we could hook up tonightand she said that I was very cheap and took advantage of her because she was new to SA when we met and didn't know how much to charge. She said "THE STANDARD IS 400 (PPM) on SA" She also mentioned she has a lot of female friends who also do SA and they all charge 400 and up. She was bragging she sees at least 4 different guys a week and they all giver her 400 and up. Then she said " If you want to see me again, you have to bring 400 or lose my number".

If she was young and hot I may, giver her 300 but she's older and a little below average and still wants 400, No WAY!! I don't know if it's just a mere coincidence or what, but lately I've noticed most of the girls I'ved talked also want 400 (ppm) regardless what they look like. Seriously who the hell is paying 400 for just average or below average girls? Where do they get the idea that the standard is 400 on SA? Do they have a message board like this where they can talk about us and set standard prices?

**Grumpyinva** · 09-18-20 23:48

Originally Posted by Abcat1 [View Original Post]

The same thing happened to me. SA sent me a nasty email, accusing me of solicitation. I wrote them back that I was the one being solicited. They wrote me back saying essentially f*you. I'm not sure who did it but have my suspicions. A women I met on the site said she was kicked off and had no idea why. Possibly she was soliciting but she is not a pro so I don't know. It seems that all you have to do to get anyone kicked off is to file a complaint. Maybe that's an SA scam to increase profits.

I wish that was all it took to get kicked off of SA. I had a "robbed at gunpoint" event a couple of years back (she took me to a completely empty house that she said she was remodeling,) and, when the cash was set down, she literally dashed downstairs and ran for the back door and escaped, while a large man with a gun burst in through the front door, and started shouting at me about what was I doing in his house.

I reported the details and the texts leading up to it to SA, and the answer I got back was that I'd need to file a police report, or they weren't going to take it seriously. I thought it was crazy, since I'm sure I wasn't the only person this happened to. No police report for me, but I started taking operational security MUCH more seriously myself. A month later, her account was still active, so I let my SA premium expire, and have never been tempted to go back.

Maybe they only kick off the guys, for a complaint on the site, with messages on the site to prove it.

**Pupsnu** · 09-18-20 22:24

This is a picture of a 20 something.

Originally Posted by Rileym [View Original Post]

Does anyone know anything about this one? Profile say 58, she said she's actually 40, divorced, has her Master's and first time sb. Thinking the pic must be fake, no way that is actually her but tineye came up empty.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c93ed...7-b2717d5a5219

**FightingFungus** · 09-18-20 21:22

I am in my mid 40's and above average in looks and in good shape. It is very possible to turn these girls into traditional dating without allowance. If you are younger and have social status it can be done fairly regularly. Imagine if you are 34 and have one of the hottest nightclubs in a big city and tell a girl from seeking to meet you there. Everyone treats you like a king they kiss your ass and the SB will see this and your status will be elevated. That being said I do this because I love variety and don't want to deal with the bullshit. I think when we pay these SB's to fuck us they look at us as betas. They automatically think if this guy was a stud he wouldn't need to pay for pussy, so you start off from a position of weakness.

That being said The majority of the SB's do not give a fuck about you. If you think they like you, tell them you want to hang out without an allowance and your answer will be answered. I have had a few freebies but they were like 5's. One was looking for allowance on the next meet (Never happened) And the other just offered. But that is a rarity, as people say these girls can literally get laid that night for free walking into a Walmart and take a guy home.

**MikeIsHome** · 09-18-20 18:30

I've found you get what you put in. Treat them nice and they enjoy hanging out and some spending money. I do think if one is looking for 8's and 9's things get much more difficult- I find very few that I believe make that rating but it's all subjective. Tons of 6's and 7's but that's not really my thing unless something triggers my libido. Not really into repeating on a regular basis but if that's one thing it'd be easy to have 5 regs. But they won't be 9's LOL.

**ChezBonobo** · 09-18-20 18:03

Originally Posted by Jinurso [View Original Post]

I should point out, because a few people made this mistake, that I'm not meeting new women every night. I'm seeing one of the five women I previously met over the last couple of months almost every night. I have met maybe like 15 or so total. I'm surprised that people are skeptical about that. I wouldn't use SA if I couldn't produce that volume. I would just stick to Tinder. What kinds of numbers are you all getting?

They haven't done the work you have and they ***** about their shitty results. It's easier to call bs on you than take a hard look in the mirror.

**Ron M** · 09-18-20 17:04

Originally Posted by Pal5600 [View Original Post]

I mostly agree with you man, too many guys on here tell one bs story after another, I don't believe in fairy tales, hot young amateur do not go to sa looking to fuck old fat ugly guys or any guys for free, they all do it for the money, lots of money, to many guys on here live in some fucking fantasy thinking hot young amateur will fuck them for free, in real world, money will get you the hottest pussy, that's why a guy like me was able to fuck over 300+ hot young coed, is was all about money. Just look at all the old guys at the playboy mansion party with their girls vs all the old guys at Walmart with their girls, do you see the different

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I'll add;.

These SA girls know how to stroke an old man's ego. They make old guys think these girls actually like them. SA girls are just like regular hookers. Unlike regular hookers SA girls will go out on traditional dates, movie and dinner. And maybe some eye candy at the next family celebration. The more these SA girls stroke your ego the easier it is to get more of an old man's money. At least regular hookers don't pretend that they like you.

**Jinurso** · 09-18-20 14:43

I should point out, because a few people made this mistake, that I'm not meeting new women every night. I'm seeing one of the five women I previously met over the last couple of months almost every night. I have met maybe like 15 or so total. I'm surprised that people are skeptical about that. I wouldn't use SA if I couldn't produce that volume. I would just stick to Tinder. What kinds of numbers are you all getting?

Originally Posted by TimeForPlay10 [View Original Post]

I appreciate your taking the time to explain your approach. Nice work. I've been on SA for 7 or so years and have had a ton of success as well as some not so good experiences but I can't complain. I assume you're mid 30's, good looking / fit, etc.

Like the others, I was very skeptical at first-mainly regarding the volume of women you claimed to be fucking considering the basic challenges with SA site in general (scammers, fakes, flakes, GPS, etc.). But I'm assuming that's a bit exaggerated to start with which is fine. But, the point you make is legitimate and I think many miss it. Once you weed out the GPS, fakes and scammers (a large group on SA currently), the 28-40 demo is ripe for this approach. For the rest of us, his approach makes sense and I've had it work for me albeit in a different way. I'm a fit, mid 40's and have had 4 sb's in the past stop taking allowance because I treated them very well and they wanted to spend time together just because. I'm seeing one SB like that right now. The issue for me is that they inevitably want to get more and more clingy even though they know I'm married (but considering divorce). Plus, I like variety, so I tend to move on even when the allowance is low or nothing. The bottomline is he's shifting her perspective from "I can fuck this guy every week and make 1200/ mo" to "wait, this guy has it going on, appears legit into me and has an awesome lifestyle. Maybe he's the one"? He gets her to fall back into her fantasy mindset of her dream situation. The girls he targets have been burned any number of ways-bad relationships, career, now have kids, etc. He's dangling nirvana in front of them, showing more interest than they typically get from men, treating them nice and making them forget why they met him in the first place. If it's true, and it is plausible, it's great game. Hat's off man. I still struggle that you do it every night but who really cares. I wouldn't / couldn't manage that volume anyway. There's something to be said for pizza, beer and your fav sporting event without the bitches. I'm also in a different stage with different issues (married, don't have a ton of time to play) so your approach is perfect for the 30/40 yo single guy. Oh, to go back to my 30 yo single self.

**TimeForPlay10** · 09-18-20 12:40

Originally Posted by Jinurso [View Original Post]

You're missing one key point. It's not simply that they fuck me because they find me attractive. They fuck me because I demonstrate a lifestyle that they want. Sure, they could get $300 to fuck me or someone like me for an hour. But when you see someone who lives the way they want, they start thinking less about $300 today and more about those trips to France or that penthouse or that Tesla with ludicrous mode installed. Is that worth skipping asking for money? Not for most women on SA, but I don't need most women, just a few to keep me happy. Right now I have five who I see pretty regularly and I rarely login to SA anymore. Of the many hundreds of women on there, anybody who plays their cards right should be able to find five who fit that criteria. It's honestly not that hard.

I appreciate your taking the time to explain your approach. Nice work. I've been on SA for 7 or so years and have had a ton of success as well as some not so good experiences but I can't complain. I assume you're mid 30's, good looking / fit, etc.

Like the others, I was very skeptical at first-mainly regarding the volume of women you claimed to be fucking considering the basic challenges with SA site in general (scammers, fakes, flakes, GPS, etc.). But I'm assuming that's a bit exaggerated to start with which is fine. But, the point you make is legitimate and I think many miss it. Once you weed out the GPS, fakes and scammers (a large group on SA currently), the 28-40 demo is ripe for this approach. For the rest of us, his approach makes sense and I've had it work for me albeit in a different way. I'm a fit, mid 40's and have had 4 sb's in the past stop taking allowance because I treated them very well and they wanted to spend time together just because. I'm seeing one SB like that right now. The issue for me is that they inevitably want to get more and more clingy even though they know I'm married (but considering divorce). Plus, I like variety, so I tend to move on even when the allowance is low or nothing. The bottomline is he's shifting her perspective from "I can fuck this guy every week and make 1200/ mo" to "wait, this guy has it going on, appears legit into me and has an awesome lifestyle. Maybe he's the one"? He gets her to fall back into her fantasy mindset of her dream situation. The girls he targets have been burned any number of ways-bad relationships, career, now have kids, etc. He's dangling nirvana in front of them, showing more interest than they typically get from men, treating them nice and making them forget why they met him in the first place. If it's true, and it is plausible, it's great game. Hat's off man. I still struggle that you do it every night but who really cares. I wouldn't / couldn't manage that volume anyway. There's something to be said for pizza, beer and your fav sporting event without the bitches. I'm also in a different stage with different issues (married, don't have a ton of time to play) so your approach is perfect for the 30/40 yo single guy. Oh, to go back to my 30 yo single self.

**Rileym** · 09-18-20 11:06

Does anyone know anything about this one? Profile say 58, she said she's actually 40, divorced, has her Master's and first time sb. Thinking the pic must be fake, no way that is actually her but tineye came up empty.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c93ed...7-b2717d5a5219

**Randolph** · 09-18-20 10:42

While I admire those of you that can wrangle SA 8's and 9's for free. I am married so all those suggestions and methods don't work for us married, much less older guys. I am in my upper sixties. I am balls deep in SA women. I never ever go over 200 and I am glad to give them the money. Why? Because when we are done, we are done. Over the years you develop what we call spidey sense. It used to be on seeing escorts but SA has its own needs for it. I can usually tell right away if a girl is a flake, etc. But I really don't care if she is an 8 or 9. There are more than sufficient quantities of 6's who are horny, broke and willing to fuck grandpa. I treat them very well and make them happy. They almost all text me within a few days for repeats. SA is really useful to guys on both ends of the spectrum-- the young fit single guys and us old married farts.

I've written it before. You need to make them feel like you are interested and are non-threatening. Most of them are tired of dating. They figure if they do me they already know they are going to have sex, have a few bucks in their purse and not feel like a hooker.

Randolph.

**Pal5600** · 09-17-20 23:41

Originally Posted by OnlyDreams [View Original Post]

Hard to believe, I'm not saying it's impossible but what are the probabilities especially when nowadays SA is full of Pro's , Agencies, Scammers, Content Sellers and platonic bullshit!! ???? Then not all the girls are hot and the few hotties most likely most of them have boyfriends and come to the site looking exclusively for financial help. I myself have been extremely lucky, I've had a couple of young and hot ones who were no longer interested in money when they were with me (but I'm sure they had sugar daddies on the site becase they still need money) but it didn't happen every night. Maybe once every 2 weeks and it was for just a short period of time 'cause sooner or later they need money especially if they are young and go to school. I've also negotiated a lot and in some cases they have accepted half or even a third of their price tag. In fact I've had more luck negotiating than getting it for free. Even if I had Joe Bozzos wealth, I'd still negotiate and never pay what they ask no matter how hot they are. You may call me cheap, but I still value my hard earned money and who wouldn't like to have free hotties ?? It's hard to believe somebody gets free girls every night from that site. Again, once in a while some girl may like a guy and may do it for free but MONEY or FINANCIAL GAIN is the main or only motivation those girls go there. Otherwise they can be on hundreds of dating apps such as Tinder and I know this girl who is on Tinder when she wants to get fucked really good and is very picky about who she sees. However, when she needs money she goes to SA and her standards change as long as guys give her what she ask $ for. Moreover, even if those hot girls want to do it for free, my guess is that you have all the time in the world to play Casssanova. You devote your life 100% to the site. Unless you are retired , super rich and have nothing else to do then it could be feasible to convince women who are full of weird hormonal changes. Furthermore, I've been to the place you mentioned and I know that triangle is a show-off area. Nevertheless, with the pandemic the scene has changed drastically. It looks very dry, they enforce state guidelines, everybody wears masks, tables are spread, the hot staff have banished, it looks all weird, and you cannot longer go there just to show off.

The rest of us humans are more likely to hit the lottery than scoring hot girls for free everyday on SA. Sorry I don't mean to sound disrespectful and contradict your experience or insinuate you are lying, anything in life is possible. Just some things are hard to believe. Happy Hunting !

I mostly agree with you man, too many guys on here tell one bs story after another, I don't believe in fairy tales, hot young amateur do not go to sa looking to fuck old fat ugly guys or any guys for free, they all do it for the money, lots of money, to many guys on here live in some fucking fantasy thinking hot young amateur will fuck them for free, in real world, money will get you the hottest pussy, that's why a guy like me was able to fuck over 300+ hot young coed, is was all about money. Just look at all the old guys at the playboy mansion party with their girls vs all the old guys at Walmart with their girls, do you see the different.

**ChiHappiness** · 09-17-20 22:48

Stan, your inbox is full.

Originally Posted by StanKost [View Original Post]

She had approached me 1-2 months ago and we set up a ppm and she was texting me daily to confirm we are still on point and stood me up on the day of the date on my way to the hotel. I lost my money for the hotel and she apologized profusely but didn't offer a discount if we try meeting again so that and her age made me not pursue her again. I exchanged messages with a senior member here who had met her several times and had a good time with her until she "borrowed" money from him and ghosted him. She may be worth a try if she agrees to 200 $ for BBFS but proceed with caution.

**Jinurso** · 09-17-20 21:27

I've noticed a few people say it's a big time investment. I don't know if that's necessarily true. Guess it depends on how much time a lot of time is to you. 80 - 100 hours to source five girls who are basically girlfriends isn't too bad. And it took me about 5-6 weeks to find them all and get things lined up. So 100 hours over 5-6 weeks is about 17-20 hours per week, less than three hours per day. Is that a lot? It's a pandemic, what else do I have to do!?

Originally Posted by Flipper12 [View Original Post]

Jesus Christ this was a masterclass.

To those who don't believe this let me tell you I didn't either until I saw a friend do the same shit. Fucking hot girls for cheap or free.

I've been fucking girls for money for so long I have a hard time grasping the comcepts you shared in this detail post.

Normally I'm balls deep in a girl within 7. 5 minutes of meeting her.

So just all the thought, planning and execution that goes into this is really impressive.

Honestly I don't hqve the time and resources or skills to pull this of but really enjoyed the story of the process.