Arrangement Reports

[Jinurso]

Yeah, if I want to fuck a 10, I'll use regular dating apps and invest all the time and money a 10 requires before she gives in. But that could be weeks. If I want a 7 or 8 today or tomorrow, then SA is the way to go.

But I don't like 10's most of the time. I don't want someone a lot better looking than me. I'm vain, I like being the pretty one. I try to max out at an 8. 5.

I also don't like girls more than 8 years younger than me. I don't want to be the guy guys like me point out in the Viagra Triangle like "he's so paying for it".

I keep a narrow range going and specialize in that. Never lower than a 7, never higher than an 8. Lower and I would be too embarrassed to show up in public with them. Too high and it gets suspicious.

Appreciate you sharing your tips and tricks. I think this part below is probably the critical aspect of your approach. Everything else you've described would have limited appeal outside this audience you described. Young chicks have a daddy and / or a money thing. 10's have an ego and won't fuck for free. But I can absolutely see your approach working with this demo. Anytime I've had SA situations that went outside the pure fucking for cash realm such as spend the night or the entire weekend, travel, cook me dinners, etc. it was it always with a girl that fits in the class you described.

[MasterDdt]

She quoted me 3 k a month.

I was chatting with Margot today and told her I also live in South Loop. She then immediately said "do you want to grab some food right now? No mention of allowance or anything. I actually said no, that seemed like a red flag.

[OnlyDreams]

If you're only going for 10's, yeah, you'll probably need to pay no matter what. The key is to find the right girls using the right filters, and then go for the shock and awe effect with a girl who looks like she has potential with a makeover but has never been exposed to what a spoiled life looks like.

A lot of guys here pretty much exclusively date girls younger than 23. Me? I go for the girls who were divorced, who have a kid, who are more like 28 - 40. I weed out girls who specifically talk about needing to pay bills or want to be spoiled or use a bunch of daddy language. I look for girls who have detailed information about what they want, what they're looking for, and have a profile that reads more like a regular dating profile. And a green flag is when they say they are looking for something more serious or one person or language like that.

Even with all of that, like 70% of the girls who write back are still not what I'm looking for. I try to weed them out quickly, and that gets me to the ratio I wrote below when it comes time to meet them.

The other keys are that I live alone, so I use my place which makes it really easy to get around and flexible to arrange things. It's also a nice place, so I use photos of myself there. Yes, I use real photos of myself. Mainly because I don't care. I'm not famous, I work for myself now. So I'm really flexible.

It probably took me about 80 - 100 hours of work to get everything going. But it was worth it because I don't have to put in more than a few hours a week anymore since I have a pretty reliable stable of women who have mainly stuck around.

It's still early for me, so I haven't hit the rut yet. But so far it has definitely been a lot better than I imagined. I prefer it to Tinder, although the Tinder girls are generally hotter.

I understand your point but again money is the motivation for 99% of the girls there and it's even more for the group you target. Why do you think a single mom, divorced or older woman is on SA?? 'cause they need some extra income to support themselves or their family. If they just wanted sex or date somebody they have hundreds of apps available and most of the time they don't even need any social platform to get laid. A woman can go to a CVS and still she can hook up with a couple of guys there. Any woman can have free sex whenever she wants but it doesn't happen with men like that or that simple. I do believe once in a while you many come across some woman on SA who only wants to have a nice date and doesn't care about the financial part. However, what is hard to believe is the amount if women you get for free from that site. I can have free meals once every 2 weeks or once a month but not every single night.

If I want to buy groceries the most logical thing to do is go to a grocery store but it doesn't necessarily mean I cannot find food at Home Depot or Menards (they do have a little snack section) . If men and women go to SA is because of a mutual financial arrangement it doesn't mean some do it for free but their first choice would be Tinder or similar apps.

[Pau Ford]

Appreciate you sharing your tips and tricks. I think this part below is probably the critical aspect of your approach. Everything else you've described would have limited appeal outside this audience you described. Young chicks have a daddy and / or a money thing. 10's have an ego and won't fuck for free. But I can absolutely see your approach working with this demo. Anytime I've had SA situations that went outside the pure fucking for cash realm such as spend the night or the entire weekend, travel, cook me dinners, etc. it was it always with a girl that fits in the class you described.

If you're only going for 10's, yeah, you'll probably need to pay no matter what.

A lot of guys here pretty much exclusively date girls younger than 23. Me? I go for the girls who were divorced, who have a kid, who are more like 28 - 40. I weed out girls who specifically talk about needing to pay bills or want to be spoiled or use a bunch of daddy language. I look for girls who ...have a profile that reads more like a regular dating profile. And a green flag is when they say they are looking for something more serious or one person or language like that.

[Jinurso]

If you're only going for 10's, yeah, you'll probably need to pay no matter what. The key is to find the right girls using the right filters, and then go for the shock and awe effect with a girl who looks like she has potential with a makeover but has never been exposed to what a spoiled life looks like.

A lot of guys here pretty much exclusively date girls younger than 23. Me? I go for the girls who were divorced, who have a kid, who are more like 28 - 40. I weed out girls who specifically talk about needing to pay bills or want to be spoiled or use a bunch of daddy language. I look for girls who have detailed information about what they want, what they're looking for, and have a profile that reads more like a regular dating profile. And a green flag is when they say they are looking for something more serious or one person or language like that.

Even with all of that, like 70% of the girls who write back are still not what I'm looking for. I try to weed them out quickly, and that gets me to the ratio I wrote below when it comes time to meet them.

The other keys are that I live alone, so I use my place which makes it really easy to get around and flexible to arrange things. It's also a nice place, so I use photos of myself there. Yes, I use real photos of myself. Mainly because I don't care. I'm not famous, I work for myself now. So I'm really flexible.

It probably took me about 80 - 100 hours of work to get everything going. But it was worth it because I don't have to put in more than a few hours a week anymore since I have a pretty reliable stable of women who have mainly stuck around.

It's still early for me, so I haven't hit the rut yet. But so far it has definitely been a lot better than I imagined. I prefer it to Tinder, although the Tinder girls are generally hotter.

Hard to believe, I'm not saying it's impossible but what are the probabilities especially when nowadays SA is full of Scammers, content sellers and platonic bullshit!! ???? Then not all the girls are hot and the few hotties most likely most of them have boyfriends and come to the site looking exclusively for financial help. I myself have been extremely lucky, I've had a couple of young and hot ones who were no longer interested in money when they were with me (but I'm sure they had sugar daddies on the site becase they still need money) but it didn't happen every night. Maybe once every 2 weeks and it was for just a short period of time 'cute sooner or later they need money especially if they are young and go to school. I've also negotiated a lot and in some cases they have accepted half or even a third of their price tag. And all of that requieres a lot of time and effort! It's hard to believe somebody gets free girls every night from that site. Again, once in a while some girl may like a guy and may do it for free but MONEY or FINANCIAL GAIN is the main or only motivation those girls go there. Otherwise they can be on hundreds of dating apps such as Tinder and I know this girl who is on Tinder when she wants to get fucked really good and is very picky about who she sees. However, when she needs money she goes to SA and her standards change as long as guys give her what she ask $ for. Moreover, even if those hot girls want to do it for free, my guess is that you have all the time in the world to play Casssanova. You devote your life 100% to the site. Unless you are retired and have nothing else to do in life it could be possible. Furthermore, I've been to the place you mentioned and I know that triangle is a show-off area. Nevertheless, with the pandemic the scene has changed drastically. It looks very dry, they enforce state guidelines, everybody wears masks, tables are spread, the hot staff have banished, it looks all weird, and you cannot longer go there just to show off.

The rest of us humans are more likely to hit the lottery than scoring hot girls for free everyday on SA. Sorry I don't mean to sound disrespectful and contradict your experience or insinuate you are lying, anything in life is possible. Just some things are hard to believe. Happy Hunting !

[Member #6833]

Has anyone met or had any luck with this one?

https://www.seeking.com/member/3b145...a-f22b0898bbf3

[OnlyDreams]

I got a few messages asking for more details so I'll add more here.

The first thing is that this probably only works if they are genuinely attracted to you. So it helps if you're younger, good looking and / or pretty fit. And also if you're a good conversationalist and can create chemistry. (Before you ask, yes I do this on Tinder too, but SA actually gets me results faster).

Anyway, I always do a M&G first after texting them for a while to get a feel for whether they are really just in it for the money or are flexible. They don't just come out and say it, but I developed a pretty good radar. If the radar checks out, I do the M&G.

I always take them to the same place. I prefer Maple and Ash downtown for a lot of reasons. One, it's in the Viagra Triangle (I'll get to that later). Two, it's a stylish restaurant that is expensive but not TOO expensive if I need to go there a few times in a week. Three, since I'm a regular, everybody knows me by name and it makes me seem like a celebrity. And four, the waitresses and hostesses are all hot and flirtatious, which gives whatever girl I'm there with a little bit of insecurity and jealousy. Especially when they know my name and we make small talk right in front of my date.

I spend the date kinda humble bragging about my lifestyle while also talking about how it would be really nice to have someone to travel to France with when the pandemic is over. I'll show pics of other trips I went on, really get them going. But at the same time, I treat it like a real date. Chemistry is really important to making them forget why they are there. So I ask lots of questions and making them feel important.

At the end of the date, if I did it right, we had at least a bottle of wine and a couple of cocktails and everybody is feeling nice. I hold her hand and go for a walk around the area. This is where Viagra Triangle comes into play. If I'm lucky, we will see some obvious sugar daddy mismatches. I'll point them out to her, make some jokes about obviously mismatched they are and then take a selfie and talk about what a great looking couple we would make. It puts a contrast in her head like "I'm usually with guys like that but today feels different, and we take a great selfie".

After the walk is the moment of truth. I get my car out of valet and offer to drive her home. Before I pull out, I make my move and we start making out. If that works, I pull back just long enough to say to her, "this felt so much different than I was expecting. Like a real date. I don't know if it's what you want, but I would love to see you again as an actual date".

Now at this point one of three things usually happens.

1. She declines and shifts the conversation back to the transactions. When that happens, I give her the envelope with the money, take her home and never talk to her again.

2. She agrees and we make another date. In between the dates, I ramp up the charm over text and from that point on she sees me as a potential real boyfriend. On the second date, I invite her to my place get really nice takeout and some romance and she's there for the next two days.

3. And this is the jackpot. She thinks to herself "this is something that could be a lot better than what I usually put up with, but I don't want him to forget me" so SHE asks ME to keep the night going at my place or hers. When that happens, I put the car in gear and head out and I get lucky that night.

The first month or so it was like 50%/25%/25%. After that I got good enough at targeting the right girls early on that it's something like 30%/30%/40%. And now I don't really need to do it at all because my hands are full and my biggest problem is deciding whether I want to try out anything exclusive, or dealing with some of the pressure from girls who want to make things exclusive when I've already decided not to do it with them.

Hard to believe, I'm not saying it's impossible but what are the probabilities especially when nowadays SA is full of Pro's , Agencies, Scammers, Content Sellers and platonic bullshit!! ???? Then not all the girls are hot and the few hotties most likely most of them have boyfriends and come to the site looking exclusively for financial help. I myself have been extremely lucky, I've had a couple of young and hot ones who were no longer interested in money when they were with me (but I'm sure they had sugar daddies on the site becase they still need money) but it didn't happen every night. Maybe once every 2 weeks and it was for just a short period of time 'cause sooner or later they need money especially if they are young and go to school. I've also negotiated a lot and in some cases they have accepted half or even a third of their price tag. In fact I've had more luck negotiating than getting it for free. Even if I had Joe Bozzos wealth, I'd still negotiate and never pay what they ask no matter how hot they are. You may call me cheap, but I still value my hard earned money and who wouldn't like to have free hotties ?? It's hard to believe somebody gets free girls every night from that site. Again, once in a while some girl may like a guy and may do it for free but MONEY or FINANCIAL GAIN is the main or only motivation those girls go there. Otherwise they can be on hundreds of dating apps such as Tinder and I know this girl who is on Tinder when she wants to get fucked really good and is very picky about who she sees. However, when she needs money she goes to SA and her standards change as long as guys give her what she ask $ for. Moreover, even if those hot girls want to do it for free, my guess is that you have all the time in the world to play Casssanova. You devote your life 100% to the site. Unless you are retired , super rich and have nothing else to do then it could be feasible to convince women who are full of weird hormonal changes. Furthermore, I've been to the place you mentioned and I know that triangle is a show-off area. Nevertheless, with the pandemic the scene has changed drastically. It looks very dry, they enforce state guidelines, everybody wears masks, tables are spread, the hot staff have banished, it looks all weird, and you cannot longer go there just to show off.

The rest of us humans are more likely to hit the lottery than scoring hot girls for free everyday on SA. Sorry I don't mean to sound disrespectful and contradict your experience or insinuate you are lying, anything in life is possible. Just some things are hard to believe. Happy Hunting !

[Jinurso]

Since I switched to SA a couple of months ago, I don't think I've spent more than about $2000, and I get laid almost every night. That's a lot less expensive and much higher quality than pros.

Better yet, most of the money I paid was in the beginning. Now I have a small group I see regularly. They come over, we have dinner, chill and usually spend the night together. I change sheets the next day and make plans for another girl. I haven't paid them anything other than dinner and drinks or occasional trips locally.

What worked for me was doing a non-sexual meet and greet first and creating chemistry. It helped to target women who wrote marriage-minded or serious relationships on their profile. Those are the girls who actually prefer finding a boyfriend. You charm them, bring them back to your nice place in your nice car, and get them thinking about an investment in a possible future with someone who doesn't treat her like a hooker. They start thinking maybe they don't get paid now, but will one day get married and get a lot more with a guy they actually enjoy being with. And who knows? Maybe I will end up with one of them. I'm open minded.

I will probably never go back to escorts.

I got a few messages asking for more details so I'll add more here.

The first thing is that this probably only works if they are genuinely attracted to you. So it helps if you're younger, good looking and / or pretty fit. And also if you're a good conversationalist and can create chemistry. (Before you ask, yes I do this on Tinder too, but SA actually gets me results faster).

Anyway, I always do a M&G first after texting them for a while to get a feel for whether they are really just in it for the money or are flexible. They don't just come out and say it, but I developed a pretty good radar. If the radar checks out, I do the M&G.

I always take them to the same place. I prefer Maple and Ash downtown for a lot of reasons. One, it's in the Viagra Triangle (I'll get to that later). Two, it's a stylish restaurant that is expensive but not TOO expensive if I need to go there a few times in a week. Three, since I'm a regular, everybody knows me by name and it makes me seem like a celebrity. And four, the waitresses and hostesses are all hot and flirtatious, which gives whatever girl I'm there with a little bit of insecurity and jealousy. Especially when they know my name and we make small talk right in front of my date.

I spend the date kinda humble bragging about my lifestyle while also talking about how it would be really nice to have someone to travel to France with when the pandemic is over. I'll show pics of other trips I went on, really get them going. But at the same time, I treat it like a real date. Chemistry is really important to making them forget why they are there. So I ask lots of questions and making them feel important.

At the end of the date, if I did it right, we had at least a bottle of wine and a couple of cocktails and everybody is feeling nice. I hold her hand and go for a walk around the area. This is where Viagra Triangle comes into play. If I'm lucky, we will see some obvious sugar daddy mismatches. I'll point them out to her, make some jokes about obviously mismatched they are and then take a selfie and talk about what a great looking couple we would make. It puts a contrast in her head like "I'm usually with guys like that but today feels different, and we take a great selfie".

After the walk is the moment of truth. I get my car out of valet and offer to drive her home. Before I pull out, I make my move and we start making out. If that works, I pull back just long enough to say to her, "this felt so much different than I was expecting. Like a real date. I don't know if it's what you want, but I would love to see you again as an actual date".

Now at this point one of three things usually happens.

1. She declines and shifts the conversation back to the transactions. When that happens, I give her the envelope with the money, take her home and never talk to her again.

2. She agrees and we make another date. In between the dates, I ramp up the charm over text and from that point on she sees me as a potential real boyfriend. On the second date, I invite her to my place get really nice takeout and some romance and she's there for the next two days.

3. And this is the jackpot. She thinks to herself "this is something that could be a lot better than what I usually put up with, but I don't want him to forget me" so SHE asks ME to keep the night going at my place or hers. When that happens, I put the car in gear and head out and I get lucky that night.

The first month or so it was like 50%/25%/25%. After that I got good enough at targeting the right girls early on that it's something like 30%/30%/40%. And now I don't really need to do it at all because my hands are full and my biggest problem is deciding whether I want to try out anything exclusive, or dealing with some of the pressure from girls who want to make things exclusive when I've already decided not to do it with them.

[Jinurso]

What's a good line opener for that, just got on SA, I'm 30 LOL with a nice crib downtown so I wanted to ask. Because everyone wants an allowance. Like I'm not tryna do that.

Good luck with banging hot ones for nothing. It rarely works. If you look good then they will reply back. But they are so flaky that it's not worth it sometimes. I only messaged the hot ones and got some numbers but only met a handful. I have not so good looking girls message me and I dont respond back cause they are hot.

I'd say it likely needs to happen organically. You won't find many (any) takers on SA if all you are offering is a view from your high rise window. You need to have the allowance to spend. Once in a while the chemistry might be there and things change but you can't go in with that being the expectation of free pussy.

Honestly I've heard a lot of girls complain about this on SA. Always the young guys who are trying to be like "I don't need to pay for pussy but you can ride w / me and enjoy the lifestyle. If you want allowance then go fuck the fat old losers from the site. " Which most girls know is just a cover for the guy is trying to play in a game he can't afford. Girls on SA know they could meet your age / type in a club every single night of the week. They come to SA looking for something different, more mature guys and / or money.

I mean no offense I'm sure you're a nice guy and all. But if you lead with the no allowance approach you won't get anywhere.

Since I switched to SA a couple of months ago, I don't think I've spent more than about $2000, and I get laid almost every night. That's a lot less expensive and much higher quality than pros.

Better yet, most of the money I paid was in the beginning. Now I have a small group I see regularly. They come over, we have dinner, chill and usually spend the night together. I change sheets the next day and make plans for another girl. I haven't paid them anything other than dinner and drinks or occasional trips locally.

What worked for me was doing a non-sexual meet and greet first and creating chemistry. It helped to target women who wrote marriage-minded or serious relationships on their profile. Those are the girls who actually prefer finding a boyfriend. You charm them, bring them back to your nice place in your nice car, and get them thinking about an investment in a possible future with someone who doesn't treat her like a hooker. They start thinking maybe they don't get paid now, but will one day get married and get a lot more with a guy they actually enjoy being with. And who knows? Maybe I will end up with one of them. I'm open minded.

I will probably never go back to escorts.

[JohnMong]

https://www.seeking.com/member/a8889...3-16ece457dc6b

Does anyone have any info on this girl?

I'm planning on setting up a meeting with her this weekend, but just wondering if anyone has information in advance.

If not I will provide a review, if a meeting is set up.

[Rileym]

Has to be to good to be true right?

https://www.seeking.com/member/e1bfd...4-a9fd2e151bbb

She quoted me 3 k a month.

[Pupsnu]

She says she is Russian and is between Miami and Chicago. I would say there is a high likelihood that she is real, but most likely a complete pro. Bunch of agencies here have girls like that.

Has to be to good to be true right?

https://www.seeking.com/member/e1bfd...4-a9fd2e151bbb

[Chicago41]

Has to be to good to be true right?

https://www.seeking.com/member/e1bfd...4-a9fd2e151bbb

Multiple locations and that pic scream either expensive pro or scam to me.

[KisaHero]

Anyone seen this girl or heard from her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/47e22...2-0653b16ccc68

[ChiTown Reds]

Has to be to good to be true right?

https://www.seeking.com/member/e1bfd...4-a9fd2e151bbb