Stupid Shit in NoVa

[NovaThings]

I'm not offended I've bit. I would suggest changing your up your delivery a bit, because it sounds like you CLEARLY took a side here. Your original post didn't sound like calling someone out. It sounded more like you defending the booker and accusing the members of this site. You should reconsider the words you chose to deliver this message. Filet mignon is delicious. But if that filet mignon was delivered to you with a nice sear on the outside, but sitting on top of a dirty garbage can lid, then the focus becomes the dirty garbage can lid. That's all I'm saying. It's not my intention to fight. I'm just trying to give you some feedback.

I don't need your feedback or meaningless analogies. Obviously you have a distaste for what you consider dirty garbage lids (agencies). When you get a dirty lid, I've gotten the 300 degree plate to keep that sizzle. Have all my experiences been A plus, no, but I've also gotten great service from providers who are tired of the smelly needy gross clients because I treat them like a person. Enjoy your garbage lids.

[JohnnySalami]

I wouldn't necessarily trust any of these agencies, or girls for that matter. They are in the business of lying frequently. What reason would they have to lie about something like this? Who knows? You only got one side of the story. But as you can see, roasting people on this board didn't really do much to help your cause. Choose your words wisely, or run the risk of your message being lost and you end up getting roasted in return.

I'm calling out the person who contacted JM. I'm curious to hear his side of the story. If you're an asshole to providers, you know who you are so if you're the ideal client then feel free to move on. I'm just following up on posts here and feedback I get directly from bookers and providers on how THEY'RE treated. Someone posted some feedback from a provider they met with and the negative feedback I get is the same. If you're offended that's your issue, I'm simply relaying the message I receive. That's why this board exists, to provide information. I have no sides in this argument but when you lose a good agency you lose options at a fair donation level. We all lose in the end if we start losing options.

[JohnnySalami]

I'm not offended I've bit. I would suggest changing your up your delivery a bit, because it sounds like you CLEARLY took a side here. Your original post didn't sound like calling someone out. It sounded more like you defending the booker and accusing the members of this site. You should reconsider the words you chose to deliver this message. Filet mignon is delicious. But if that filet mignon was delivered to you with a nice sear on the outside, but sitting on top of a dirty garbage can lid, then the focus becomes the dirty garbage can lid. That's all I'm saying. It's not my intention to fight. I'm just trying to give you some feedback.

I'm calling out the person who contacted JM. I'm curious to hear his side of the story. If you're an asshole to providers, you know who you are so if you're the ideal client then feel free to move on. I'm just following up on posts here and feedback I get directly from bookers and providers on how THEY'RE treated. Someone posted some feedback from a provider they met with and the negative feedback I get is the same. If you're offended that's your issue, I'm simply relaying the message I receive. That's why this board exists, to provide information. I have no sides in this argument but when you lose a good agency you lose options at a fair donation level. We all lose in the end if we start losing options.

[NovaThings]

That's a pretty big jump to the conclusion that the offender must be from this site. Out of curiosity, why did the booker email YOU directly to tell you this information? Just seems odd the booker had an issue with a potential client and they thought "I'd better let Novabhanchan know about this. " Am I missing something here? I don't mean to come off like a jerk, but you kind of referred to us as assholes.

I'm calling out the person who contacted JM. I'm curious to hear his side of the story. If you're an asshole to providers, you know who you are so if you're the ideal client then feel free to move on. I'm just following up on posts here and feedback I get directly from bookers and providers on how THEY'RE treated. Someone posted some feedback from a provider they met with and the negative feedback I get is the same. If you're offended that's your issue, I'm simply relaying the message I receive. That's why this board exists, to provide information. I have no sides in this argument but when you lose a good agency you lose options at a fair donation level. We all lose in the end if we start losing options.

[NovaThings]

I have never treated any of the ladies bad escorts or massage therapists, but a word of warning when giving out your photos, IDs, or personal info. I am pretty well recognized in certain areas and yep I fell for the send a selfie and I'd. Three days later a text stating if I didn't pay $1,000 my photo would be placed on the internet. Well I did not send any money and nothing happened (I don't think) so to each his own. Hmmm something to think about though, what happens if one of these places gets busted and their plea deal way out of trouble is give their customer list and contacts? Let me guess they will protect YOUR identity versus their jail time or fines.

To each their own. In this arena everyone has risks. IMO - Id rather give more info for the security of an incall then determine my safety from a 5 minute conversation and a drive around for marked LEO vehicles.

[JohnnySalami]

That's a pretty big jump to the conclusion that the offender must be from this site. Out of curiosity, why did the booker email YOU directly to tell you this information? Just seems odd the booker had an issue with a potential client and they thought "I'd better let Novabhanchan know about this. " Am I missing something here? I don't mean to come off like a jerk, but you kind of referred to us as assholes.

Just got email from JM that someone tried to schedule without giving the proper background and then threatened the booker with a bad review. Almost 99% sure that person is on this board. If you don't want to hand over the necessary info, move on but don't be a dick. There was a previous poster who mentioned that the girls are tired of the rude, disgusting, and over expected clients. On one hand, thank you for being a disgusting pig because it gives people like myself an even better experience. I know that some info may be invasive but if it's not for you then continue browsing the riskier pages and expect random level service back. You make us all look bad whether it's those threats that don't get you anywhere or you expect BBBJ and your junk smells like a dead raccoon in the middle of the summer. Sheesh.

[NovaThings]

You have only one side of the story so I think it's better to raise this once we have stories from both sides. Why you ask? Because these agencies are not paragons of virtue either. The number of posts that describe negative experiences about these agencies are too long. And JM has been known to have a serious issue with their credibility. Not saying that the monger is not to blame here, just that we have no way of knowing. JM can spin this however they want.

Further, there is no law that says mongers have to abide by certain rules. It's advisable. In the same manner that agencies and girls should abide by certain rules. And these rules are broken by both sides all the time. So, I wouldn't be so quick to put all the blame on the monger here.

I do agree with you that people who treat girls nicely have a better chance of getting a good experience, but.

Although some times the pics and experience vary from this agency, the booker has always been professional and prompt about my questions. The booker must've been pretty pissed off to send a group email to call that person out because it sounds like that person was flexing as if their review would make or break that agency. So as much as I would normally ask for both sides, and if the poster is willing to tell their side of the story, I'm going to go with the story from the agency side because of my positive experiences. Don't be an a-hole and abide by THEIR rules because they are the gatekeepers. It is a two sided story but at the same time it rang out as stories I've been told by bookers and providers who get clients who think they're going to get PSE and start shoving their stick into any open area. There was a poster in the massage section who got called out by the owner after they said the massager was being difficult. It is what it is, but going back to the post about clients being too demanding resonates too much from my conversations with the other side.

[JCNihilus]

You have only one side of the story so I think it's better to raise this once we have stories from both sides. Why you ask? Because these agencies are not paragons of virtue either. The number of posts that describe negative experiences about these agencies are too long. And JM has been known to have a serious issue with their credibility. Not saying that the monger is not to blame here, just that we have no way of knowing. JM can spin this however they want.

Further, there is no law that says mongers have to abide by certain rules. It's advisable. In the same manner that agencies and girls should abide by certain rules. And these rules are broken by both sides all the time. So, I wouldn't be so quick to put all the blame on the monger here.

I do agree with you that people who treat girls nicely have a better chance of getting a good experience, but

Given the reputation of JM, I would not trust a single word from them. I had one of my worst visit in my life in JM. Certainly, there are many rude customers but at the same time it cannot be denied that many agencies just want to rip off customers.

[NovaThings]

Why would you think that it was someone from here as opposed to TER or Switter?

Normally people who access the other sites reference this one as well in this area. TER is a decent reference, I completely avoid switter because it's a GPS site, and I cross reference here because I feel as though these are the most honest reviews from actual hobbyist. The email read too much as some of the posters complaining why they don't get GFE when their donation level is backpage level. I'm the first to admit that there's a lot of GPS right now but I'm seasoned enough to gauge what is fair and / or reasonable in both level of service AND information I'm willing to provide.

[Squatty2]

Just got email from JM that someone tried to schedule without giving the proper background and then threatened the booker with a bad review. Almost 99% sure that person is on this board. If you don't want to hand over the necessary info, move on but don't be a dick. There was a previous poster who mentioned that the girls are tired of the rude, disgusting, and over expected clients. On one hand, thank you for being a disgusting pig because it gives people like myself an even better experience. I know that some info may be invasive but if it's not for you then continue browsing the riskier pages and expect random level service back. You make us all look bad whether it's those threats that don't get you anywhere or you expect BBBJ and your junk smells like a dead raccoon in the middle of the summer. Sheesh.

Why would you think that it was someone from here as opposed to TER or Switter?

[RegularJoe1985]

Just got email from JM that someone tried to schedule without giving the proper background and then threatened the booker with a bad review. Almost 99% sure that person is on this board. If you don't want to hand over the necessary info, move on but don't be a dick. There was a previous poster who mentioned that the girls are tired of the rude, disgusting, and over expected clients. On one hand, thank you for being a disgusting pig because it gives people like myself an even better experience. I know that some info may be invasive but if it's not for you then continue browsing the riskier pages and expect random level service back. You make us all look bad whether it's those threats that don't get you anywhere or you expect BBBJ and your junk smells like a dead raccoon in the middle of the summer. Sheesh.

You have only one side of the story so I think it's better to raise this once we have stories from both sides. Why you ask? Because these agencies are not paragons of virtue either. The number of posts that describe negative experiences about these agencies are too long. And JM has been known to have a serious issue with their credibility. Not saying that the monger is not to blame here, just that we have no way of knowing. JM can spin this however they want.

Further, there is no law that says mongers have to abide by certain rules. It's advisable. In the same manner that agencies and girls should abide by certain rules. And these rules are broken by both sides all the time. So, I wouldn't be so quick to put all the blame on the monger here.

I do agree with you that people who treat girls nicely have a better chance of getting a good experience, but.

[Deranged]

Sounds like I should stop this hobby and tell the truth during my clearance check.

You can't just stop yesterday and then say that you're a changed man. That won't work. If you are going to tell the truth, you will need to abstain and wait a few years and then try for it (and even then there is no guarantee). If you are going to lie and aren't initially caught, then you will have to live in fear that they will somehow one day find out, revoke it, cause you to lose your job, and blacklist you from all jobs that have this requirement. If you are arrested for solicitation, the same things will happen.

IMO, this hobby and jobs of this nature do not mix. The whole point of this requirement is to find people who are trustworthy to the end and do not put themselves in compromising situations that threaten the country by breaking the law or making unwise decisions. How do you know the Russian hooker you're with isn't actually a spy for the Kremlin and is recording video of you to get you to cough up information or get you to do things on their behalf? What if a hacker links your online accounts to your real life persona and then uses it to blackmail you to get information?

There is plenty of information about people being in the same situation as you online. Just Google it.

[JWebster]

You will not make it through the process successfully if you admit to hooking up with escorts recently and convey a desire to continue. They are generally looking for information that can be used to blackmail you, and an escort that could possibly know your identity is often in a position to blackmail you to give up whatever they seek.

Totally common to be asked about that, actually. Everything else you were asked is also run of the mill

Sounds like I should stop this hobby and tell the truth during my clearance check.

[Mandoo2]

Thankfully, no polygrapher has asked questions of me like that one dude since. At the time, my clearance wasn't due to expire for another couple months. So I ended up re-taking it shortly thereafter and had no issues with the next guy.

Really not sure what that one polygrapher's problem was, but it was nuts. From the second I walked through the door, I just had a bad feeling about him. Not to be demeaning towards anyone who fits this description, but his appearance & demeanor were all wrong. If Edward Snowden and a cop had a child, he would be the living embodiment of that union: thick glasses, hiked-up pants, notepad & pen close at hand, and a standoff-ish, haughty, sure-of-himself demeanor. Basically the type who truly believes they're god's gift to man. I pride myself on being able to get along well with difficult folks and offering little reason for a confrontation. That's just who I am. And even when he asked that ridiculous Osama question early on, I tried playing it off as a joke. But he was having none of it and immediately determined to make that test as awkward as possible.

Everyone approaches their job differently than others. It's like this hobby: some providers are really into it while others go through the motions, believing they're deserving of high-end escort rates while simultaneously giving the bare minimum of effort in return. I feel like that was the case for this guy. He might've been good on paper for hiring and was seemingly good at asking the tough questions, determining who was deserving of a TS // SCI clearance. But the fact of the matter is you can't be a complete dick to anyone & everyone while expecting to continue in your chosen career field without repercussions. And if the goal was to get a rise out of me, well it didn't really work. I still passed my poly and he ended up quitting / getting axed. So fuck him.

To further draw parallels to this hobby: a provider shouldn't be offended if they get consistently shitty reviews. If the majority are saying you suck at your job, change your ways or fucking quit. It's not hard (pun intended). I truly don't get why people get mad or who feel the world is out to get them. Everyone can't be wrong. That guy is like some BP hoe who doesn't offer GFE, puts out the bare minimum effort, has a laundry list of limitations, and formerly charging 60 for SS but who then suddenly discovers Seeking Arrangements or Tryst. All of the sudden, they think they're worth 300+ per hour! And the sad part is--like regular legitimate businesses--people will still desire their services. In the end, I guess that's what these forums are for: to weed out the bad apples and get the most bang for our buck (another pun intended).

Yea, I explained it to one girl I saw in Toronto, Victoria Styles. Beautiful girl, former bodybuilder. She didn't like reviews put up about her on the local board, TERB. It's like trip advisor haha. Nobody wants to go in and spend their money on a dud. Took a risk on her and was worth it. But, sometimes you just have to take a risk on someone that you can't find any reviews for anywhere. Glad I took a risk on Samantha. On another note, my appointment with Paulina From Elite got cancelled today. Kept getting my appointment time moved back and now she's out of time until October because of some emergency: I haven't tried a Latin girl in a while since Natsumi from Touring Girls last year. K-girls have been keeping me busy.

[Shinshi]

You will not make it through the process successfully if you admit to hooking up with escorts recently and convey a desire to continue. They are generally looking for information that can be used to blackmail you, and an escort that could possibly know your identity is often in a position to blackmail you to give up whatever they seek.

Totally common to be asked about that, actually. Everything else you were asked is also run of the mill.

I think it's part of the polygrapher's job to give no indication whatsoever either way. That's a weird control question you got. But that's how the polygraph works. It assumes that you have physical reactions with telling an obvious falsehood (or being out on the spot with yes / no questions). If you have not sense of guilt or discomfort from telling outright lies, not sure if the polygraph is going to do anything.

Thankfully, no polygrapher has asked questions of me like that one dude since. At the time, my clearance wasn't due to expire for another couple months. So I ended up re-taking it shortly thereafter and had no issues with the next guy.

Really not sure what that one polygrapher's problem was, but it was nuts. From the second I walked through the door, I just had a bad feeling about him. Not to be demeaning towards anyone who fits this description, but his appearance & demeanor were all wrong. If Edward Snowden and a cop had a child, he would be the living embodiment of that union: thick glasses, hiked-up pants, notepad & pen close at hand, and a standoff-ish, haughty, sure-of-himself demeanor. Basically the type who truly believes they're god's gift to man. I pride myself on being able to get along well with difficult folks and offering little reason for a confrontation. That's just who I am. And even when he asked that ridiculous Osama question early on, I tried playing it off as a joke. But he was having none of it and immediately determined to make that test as awkward as possible.

Everyone approaches their job differently than others. It's like this hobby: some providers are really into it while others go through the motions, believing they're deserving of high-end escort rates while simultaneously giving the bare minimum of effort in return. I feel like that was the case for this guy. He might've been good on paper for hiring and was seemingly good at asking the tough questions, determining who was deserving of a TS // SCI clearance. But the fact of the matter is you can't be a complete dick to anyone & everyone while expecting to continue in your chosen career field without repercussions. And if the goal was to get a rise out of me, well it didn't really work. I still passed my poly and he ended up quitting / getting axed. So fuck him.

To further draw parallels to this hobby: a provider shouldn't be offended if they get consistently shitty reviews. If the majority are saying you suck at your job, change your ways or fucking quit. It's not hard (pun intended). I truly don't get why people get mad or who feel the world is out to get them. Everyone can't be wrong. That guy is like some BP hoe who doesn't offer GFE, puts out the bare minimum effort, has a laundry list of limitations, and formerly charging 60 for SS but who then suddenly discovers Seeking Arrangements or Tryst. All of the sudden, they think they're worth 300+ per hour! And the sad part is--like regular legitimate businesses--people will still desire their services. In the end, I guess that's what these forums are for: to weed out the bad apples and get the most bang for our buck (another pun intended).