Stupid Shit in NoVa

[Deranged]

Anyone here work a job that requires a security clearance? I was wondering if I should tell the truth or not?

You will not make it through the process successfully if you admit to hooking up with escorts recently and convey a desire to continue. They are generally looking for information that can be used to blackmail you, and an escort that could possibly know your identity is often in a position to blackmail you to give up whatever they seek.

They busted your balls for speeding? That's dumb on the polygrapher's part

Totally common to be asked about that, actually. Everything else you were asked is also run of the mill.

[Mandoo2]

That's a question nobody is ever asked by a polygrapher. Seeing hookers isn't a security issue unless it involves a close and continuing relationship with a foreign national. If it were I would have lost my clearance decades ago (or never would have been granted one)! Even a life style polygraph avoids questions about sexual activity unless it involves a compromising relationship. Paying for pussy isn't grounds for denying a security clearance, even at the top secret SCI level!

I guess you got to be careful about some of those smoking hot Russian escorts. In addition to the higher base prices, there's an up charge for any extra like à la carte at Morton's, they might get you to hand over other things haha. A k-girl I saw for BBFS in LA complained about North Koreans flooding the k-girl method. Driving prices down while using a factory fucking approach. High volume over any GFE type of service. I told her I can't tell the difference, but she said she could. Height, since North Koreans aren't as tall as typical South Korean born girls because of poorer nutrition. So, it's possible that one of k-girls could be a North Korean agent. But, a lot of us in the area, shouldn't mention our work lives anyways outside of a work environment.

[Mandoo2]

They busted your balls for speeding? That's dumb on the polygrapher's part--though admittedly not as dumb as the guy I had administering my test a few years ago. Some of them really aren't on the same page and mildly worry me regarding how they got their clearance in the first place.

My 1st test was unremarkable, but the 2nd one still brings a smile to my face. After getting all hooked up & told to get comfortable (like you can with that shit tightly wrapped around your chest), one of the first questions after asking my name and to say some random lie was if I had any contact with Osama bin Laden. I gave him a blank look and replied that the dude's been dead for some time. "Sir, just answer the question. " *sigh* No, I have not. Have I ever done drugs like marijuana? After replying no, he then proceeded to ask that same question throughout the interview 6-7 x's. I've never smoked pot at any point in my life, yet he seemed especially fixated on this and either A) Didn't believe me, or B) Thought that was fascinating for some reason. About halfway through, he got a little testy when I replied in the affirmative that I had pirated music and tv shows. "Well, don't you think you should not break the law?" Never gave it much thought. I like free shit..

By that point, I knew he was going to fail me so I stopped caring about my answers, knowing I'd have to take the test again at a later date. Towards the end, he did indeed ask if I had ever engaged in illegal sexual acts. I forget how he worded it, but it was very clear he was making shit up and not going off his script. I replied that all my sexual partners were of age. "That's not what I asked, sir!" Well respectfully, that question was worded pretty dumb. He then terminated the test after roughly 45+ minutes. About a month later--and after passing the test with a different polygraphed, I heard from others that that guy either quit or left shortly after our incident. Not sure what happened, but I'm assuming I wasn't the first person he had been giving an unnecessarily hard time.

I think it's part of the polygrapher's job to give no indication whatsoever either way. My first polygrapher gave me a hard time, told other people I "failed" and "confessed" to a bunch of things haha. Nothing really happened with my second polygrapher when I was up for renewal for my TS / SCI. I think I got a similar question about illegal sex acts, but I remembered that most of my hobbling has been in Canada and in London, where seeing escorts is not illegal. Went to Sydney that year and hit up an Asian brothel and a brothel of Australian girls. Ginza and Liaisons. Very legal in Australia, not so legal back here. But, that's how I got around that question. That's a weird control question you got. But that's how the polygraph works. It assumes that you have physical reactions with telling an obvious falsehood (or being out on the spot with yes / no questions). If you have not sense of guilt or discomfort from telling outright lies, not sure if the polygraph is going to do anything.

[Shinshi]

Depends on the type of polygraph. I've heard of lifestyle ones and counter-intelligence ones. Counter seems more common.

I've admitted to speeding and got a lecture on that. Bootlegging video tapes, polygrapher didn't care. As long you're not giving out secrets to other countries or plotting to destroy the United States, I think you would be ok haha.

They busted your balls for speeding? That's dumb on the polygrapher's part--though admittedly not as dumb as the guy I had administering my test a few years ago. Some of them really aren't on the same page and mildly worry me regarding how they got their clearance in the first place.

My 1st test was unremarkable, but the 2nd one still brings a smile to my face. After getting all hooked up & told to get comfortable (like you can with that shit tightly wrapped around your chest), one of the first questions after asking my name and to say some random lie was if I had any contact with Osama bin Laden. I gave him a blank look and replied that the dude's been dead for some time. "Sir, just answer the question. " *sigh* No, I have not. Have I ever done drugs like marijuana? After replying no, he then proceeded to ask that same question throughout the interview 6-7 x's. I've never smoked pot at any point in my life, yet he seemed especially fixated on this and either A) Didn't believe me, or B) Thought that was fascinating for some reason. About halfway through, he got a little testy when I replied in the affirmative that I had pirated music and tv shows. "Well, don't you think you should not break the law?" Never gave it much thought. I like free shit..

By that point, I knew he was going to fail me so I stopped caring about my answers, knowing I'd have to take the test again at a later date. Towards the end, he did indeed ask if I had ever engaged in illegal sexual acts. I forget how he worded it, but it was very clear he was making shit up and not going off his script. I replied that all my sexual partners were of age. "That's not what I asked, sir!" Well respectfully, that question was worded pretty dumb. He then terminated the test after roughly 45+ minutes. About a month later--and after passing the test with a different polygraphed, I heard from others that that guy either quit or left shortly after our incident. Not sure what happened, but I'm assuming I wasn't the first person he had been giving an unnecessarily hard time.

[FogHorn1]

That's a question nobody is ever asked by a polygrapher. Seeing hookers isn't a security issue unless it involves a close and continuing relationship with a foreign national. If it were I would have lost my clearance decades ago (or never would have been granted one)! Even a life style polygraph avoids questions about sexual activity unless it involves a compromising relationship. Paying for pussy isn't grounds for denying a security clearance, even at the top secret SCI level!

I have been asked on more than one polygraph. Specifically the question has been "Have you ever paid for sex" My standard answer has been "we all pay for it some way or other" which prompts the polygrapher to say something like "please answer yes or no" and I say, in that case yes.

[Mandoo2]

I thought OP was asking if he should tell the polygrapher that he sees escorts.

Either way, I LOL.

Depends on the type of polygraph. I've heard of lifestyle ones and counter-intelligence ones. Counter seems more common.

I've admitted to speeding and got a lecture on that. Bootlegging video tapes, polygrapher didn't care. As long you're not giving out secrets to other countries or plotting to destroy the United States, I think you would be ok haha.

[MiRoad]

I thought OP was asking if he should tell the polygrapher that he sees escorts.

Either way, I LOL.

That's a question nobody is ever asked by a polygrapher. Seeing hookers isn't a security issue unless it involves a close and continuing relationship with a foreign national. If it were I would have lost my clearance decades ago (or never would have been granted one)! Even a life style polygraph avoids questions about sexual activity unless it involves a compromising relationship. Paying for pussy isn't grounds for denying a security clearance, even at the top secret SCI level!

[Figrindan]

If you work in this area, the chances are pretty high you might need one. This is why I would avoid providers who ask for employment information for verification.

I thought OP was asking if he should tell the polygrapher that he sees escorts.

Either way, I LOL.

[Mandoo2]

Anyone here work a job that requires a security clearance? I was wondering if I should tell the truth or not?

If you work in this area, the chances are pretty high you might need one. This is why I would avoid providers who ask for employment information for verification.

[JWebster]

Anyone here work a job that requires a security clearance? I was wondering if I should tell the truth or not?

[John HandCock]

Meh, I dunno about that. Seeking caters to amateurs, not pros. The site might not say it in so many words, but that's what they're marketing is slanted towards. Their members aren't supposed to be professional escorts who have their own website, associated with an escort agency, or charge by the hour. Now I totally get that some pros are still on Seeking, no question about it. They're all still hookers, and I'm certain there's some BP bitches lurking. I'm just saying that they're technically supposed to be amateurs. Them being members of the site makes them so (again, see my example of minor league sports team versus professional sports team).

So whenever SBs ask with a straight face for the same rates as a pro, it's downright laughable! To demand 300-400+ for an hour of their time (worse if even that is exclusively for just the meet-and-greet)? That's not something ANYONE of you should be falling for! And if anyone here does--you're part of the fucking problem as to why hobbying in this region is so goddamn pricey. So don't do it. Shit like that is what makes everyone lose, but especially the person who's will fully getting suckered.

Yeah SB's are supposed to be different but as usual mongers fuck that up. A good clean, no demon, pimpless girl should be worth much more than your pros. A lot of these girls first contact from a so called SD is " how much for a BJ' or something similar LOL. Treat girls like hookers and pretty soon they are going to act like one, charging by the hour, up selling for different things like anal. Again you can thank mongers for that. Years ago that never happened but hey girls learn over time and most know the score going in as to friends experience and their own forums giving advice. Guys with money will spend it, fact of life. Guys that don't have it or refuse to spend it there is always the bargain basement SB's that mongers created.

[RegularJoe1985]

The argument you seem to be advancing is that a professional dispenses with the bullshit and fucks anybody who can pay the bill while an SB you have to work hard to earn the right to pay her to fuck you and she will fuck anybody who can earn the right to pay her to fuck her.

Virginia criminal code: 18.2-346. Prostitution; commercial sexual conduct.

A. Any person who, for money or its equivalent, (I) commits any act in violation of 18.2-361; performs cunnilingus, fellatio, or anilingus upon or by another person; engages in sexual intercourse or anal intercourse; touches the unclothed genitals or anus of another person with the intent to sexually arouse or gratify; or allows another to touch his unclothed genitals or anus with the intent to sexually arouse or gratify or (ii) offers to commit any act in violation of 18.2-361; perform cunnilingus, fellatio, or anilingus upon or by another person; engage in sexual intercourse or anal intercourse; touch the unclothed genitals or anus of another person with the intent to sexually arouse or gratify; or allow another to touch his unclothed genitals or anus with the intent to sexually arouse or gratify and thereafter does any substantial act in furtherance thereof is guilty of prostitution, which is punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.

If they don't fuck you unless they are getting compensated it's prostitution and they are prostitutes. I'm not trying to shame anybody, I fucking love hookers but give it a name. If some of you guys enjoy pretending that you're back in the "hunt" with a younger woman it's not my place to judge but you are not Huge Hefner, and you aren't seducing them. It's P4 P and SA is no different in concept than BP was nor has it ever been.

There are plenty of supposedly GFs and even spouses who'd fit the above.

[Shinshi]

That literally is what makes them Pros.

Meh, I dunno about that. Seeking caters to amateurs, not pros. The site might not say it in so many words, but that's what they're marketing is slanted towards. Their members aren't supposed to be professional escorts who have their own website, associated with an escort agency, or charge by the hour. Now I totally get that some pros are still on Seeking, no question about it. They're all still hookers, and I'm certain there's some BP bitches lurking. I'm just saying that they're technically supposed to be amateurs. Them being members of the site makes them so (again, see my example of minor league sports team versus professional sports team).

So whenever SBs ask with a straight face for the same rates as a pro, it's downright laughable! To demand 300-400+ for an hour of their time (worse if even that is exclusively for just the meet-and-greet)? That's not something ANYONE of you should be falling for! And if anyone here does--you're part of the fucking problem as to why hobbying in this region is so goddamn pricey. So don't do it. Shit like that is what makes everyone lose, but especially the person who's will fully getting suckered.

[Admin2]

They're amateurs. They're "hooking" part-time and selectively.

That literally is what makes them Pros.

[Shinshi]

Sooooo. In the end, there's hooking and then there's being a hooker. Most of these SB's ain't holed up in a room for 12 hours a day fucking as many dudes as they can to make their nut and please a pimp. Maybe we need another name for them?

Hooker-lite?
Margerine Hoes?
Hoe Zero?
Organic Hoes?
I Cant Believe Its Pussy?
Low Calorie Pussy?

Just my two cents after a night of vodka and pussy. Be good bro's.

Just about fell out of my chair laughing at these suggestions, haha! My vote is for "I-Can't-Believe-It's-Pussy!

Why do people care what they are called? Some people seem to think it's really important that the hot 23 year old college student that I can be seen in public with (because all she wants is a fancy dinner) is a called a hooker. I don't care about the point they are trying to make, but I enjoy the urgency.

The logic is simple, I wouldn't get paid to fuck a pro, therefor any amount is too much. - and before anyone jumps on me about using the word pro, you clearly defined a "professional. " Want to also call every woman on SA a hooker, that's all fine, but apparently you do see a difference.

Not saying you're a "white knight" or anything, but there's plenty of folks who fit that description. Some care very much & take offense over anyone calling their SB a hooker. On top of that, some are so set in their ways and refuse to be convinced over the interwebz--much like it is on chaotic YouTube comment sections. But they're kidding themselves if they believe SBs aren't hookers. Women on Seeking don't want to meet / hang out with you just for your charming personality. They're not freely giving up their time & company just because you look like Brad Pitt or are some god in the bedroom. And they're sure as shit not after love. They're after money, plain and simple.

I think you misunderstood one of my earlier posts: SBs are supposed to be amateurs, not pros. Basically, Seeking Arrangements caters to women who are NOT professional providers. It even says so at the login screen about how the site isn't for them. Does that mean everyone abides by the rules and that there's no pros whatsoever? No, of course not. But the argument I made still stands. SBs on that site don't get to charge pro prices. They're amateurs. They're "hooking" part-time and selectively, if you will. And that's partly why I said that my cost-fun ratio in the sugaring scene heavily outweighs my money & time spent around pros (agencies, crapshoots, AMPs, independents, etc). So don't further feed into the GPS which has run rampant in this region. You're not the only john in their lives and you won't be able to "save them. ".

In the end, believe whatever you like. It's a free country and the world wide web. You do you. Just don't put these girls up on a pedestal and think of them in some higher station in life compared to the rest. I'm sorry, but that's factually delusional.