Sugar Baby Guide

[Bth9318]

I bit the bullet and joined. Its pretty much been a waste of time. I'm 6 ft 235 have a nice head of brown hair so it's not like I look 72 or anything. So I made contact with one wants 500. No got here down to 250. But I was on this site a few years ago made an arrangement and meet jer and her ads was 3 ft wide. So I ask for a verification pic. Sends a tit up pic. I. ask for a full body doesn't have to be nude radio silence and she is not on anymore. On to the next one (keep reading saved the best for last) babyplum97 this ine talks shit but won't walk the walk wants to sell you pics. Talking to another starts the dirty talk sends pics ads is three feet wide at least she didn't try to hide it. Beware of face and tity and up shots probably hiding a big ass. Alot of saying hello get a hello back then nothing. Had one in Georgia texting me. Google searched her pics fake. I do have one that shows promise. Now on to the worst. I will attach a pic. User name clemsonisthebest. Ad says 18. Text me. Ask for phone number. Give her burner number. Some small talk and then sends me a unsolicited titty pic. I say nice. Then a unsolicited shaved kitty pic. Ask me for dick pick nope I pass. So. I ask for verification pic make sure I'm talking to a girl. I ask for oic with her holding up 3 fingers. Sends it between her bare tits. We arrange a public meet. I go early and have every intent of seeing I. D. She no shows. And radio silence. Then the next day she starts calling I don't answer. Start texting I need to talk to you ASAP. I text back why are you calling now instead of texting. Keep calling. So I finally answer there's some guy on the end of the phone with a Southern accent ranting and raving about how I was talking to his 16 year old daughter. I tell him I didn't know she was 16. He's like well she was and you got naked pictures and you were talking s* I said no I did not ask for those pictures and I was not talking anything sexual with her. He says that doesn't matter you're in big trouble she crashed her mother's car on her way to see you that she didn't have permission to take. I said I hope she's all right. He said something about a broken shoulder blade or something I don't remember. And then it goes back in and do while you're in big trouble she's only 16 years old. I said well her add-on the sites that she's 18 I don't care what the hell that says I talked to the law you're in big trouble. Okay. He says well unless you can persuade me not to pursue this any further the police are going to be getting a hold of you when I turn this phone in and you're going to go to jail and you're going to lose everything. On what kind of persuasion would that be well you need to pay me $2,500 for the car so I said yeah right. So I already know what to scam I never sent her nude pictures of myself I never talk sex with her in fact I talked about going jet skiing so I wasn't worried. So the next day he text me again tell me to call. So I finally text him back and I said I seen a lawyer today any further communication do you want will have to be through text so I have a record of your extortion and you can give the officer my phone number and I will forward that on to my lawyer and they can talk. I have not heard back since. So the moral of the story is guys be careful who you're talking to be careful what you say what you send because consent in Michigan is 16 but if you read theirs cases where people have gone to jail you're not even having sex with a 16 year old and it doesn't matter if they tell you they're a different age. I have attached a picture of her from the site because his darling daughter is still active and on it everyday and I screenshot that just in case I have an issue. Anyone wants to share a sure thing I would appreciate it. Till then I'll keep. Looking.

[SmithJon]

Lets face it, there are many frustrations on SA. It can be a PITA to work through the SA ladies, and fakes, etc. And no it is not as good as it was 4-6 year ago. However, I think we can all agree as this poster states, there are more fish in the sea and more to come, so be patient. I believe Covid has clearly had a negative effect. Personally I am not looking for high volume. But a small rotation of quality SB's who are not scammers or pros. Semi pro is ok. LOL- that's pretty much what they all are. Right? I guess I have a little bit of the male ***** gene myself, so I don't criticize too much. The quality SB's do exist. But it's hard work to find them and not sure what the alternative is for an older gentlemen like myself. Unless you are looking for pros only and I have not seen a pro since I delved into the SB 4+ years ago. That just me. I find this a much more rewarding experience and I don't date these ladies or have them overnight. Just a couple hours of fun most of the time.

I like the hunt as much as anything. I started in Detroit strip clubs but got bored with how easy it was and moved to clubs in Jackson, Lansing and Kalamazoo. I dropped strip clubs when I discovered SB's a few years and enjoy the wide variety of girls available, especially on SA. I've recently been on Tinder and like introducing girls to the idea of older men and mutually beneficial friendships. Always happy to swap info if anyone's interested.

[Reman3289]

I'm updating here to my previous post, I had posted the update the other day, but I guess something time out and it never went through.

So my lineup has switched A LOT since my first post, some dropped off, others I dropped, I've seen some, banged. I'll provide details below.

Divorced MILF, 38: I had to drop this one because of the cig smoking, the heavy metal she insisted on blasting, and the lack of chemistry. But let me tell you, she was a FREAK. Loved bb, wanted multiple pops "getting filled up" as she called it. BJ was like a 5/10, and there wasn't much cushion for the pushin. She's probably the most insatiable woman I've ever been with. Literally wanted me inside her the whole time, and wanted me there for hours. It was unmanageable, guess she watched too much porn. But she wanted nothing else in exchange from me. Average looks.

Sorority girl, 19: Very hot, nice ass, but not as thick as I like 'them. She knew what she wanted and I obliged. No DATY for the first time, and she wanted to jackhammer but not in the hot and heavy kind of way, she just wanted me to cum fast. I got to pick her outfit, a nice crotch-less lingerie piece. We got to watch a movie after and had a bit of fun, but pretty vanilla. Probably won't repeat unless she gets freaky. Think Jcrew model looks.

Divorced MILF, 25: Hot body, all the curves in the right places. We met, talked, had chemistry and are planning something soon. She sends me pics almost daily and seems like she just wants sex, but maybe some gifts not sure. Think Sears model looks.

Barista / Goth Artist, 21: This one has the hottest body out of them all, small thin waist, big ass, sends pics and vids. Communication is spotty, but I think I'll take it slow and see what happens.

Sub, 28: This one was taller but also had curves in all the right places. Communication was good, and we were going to meet then radio silence. It happens but I was really looking forward to it. She wanted to chat on an app, I sent her my hobby number before deleting the app, so I'll wait and see.

Business Professional, 28: This one was almost too good to be true, but then I confirmed me have business mutual. Communication was good, then dropped off, and then yesterday she popped back up. Tall, model gorgeous, but has curves for days. Still might be TGTBT, but again I'll wait and see. Just soft pics exchanged and some vids, but nothing serious.

I'll update again since I have a handful more on the line which are very exciting but I don't want to speak too soon. The purpose of this isn't meant for me to brag, instead I just hope people can read this and get a sense of what a timeline feels like for SA. The ups and downs. It also helps me to think back and think about what has happened and to remember to slow down and know that there are always, ALWAYS more fish in the sea. Happy fishing!

Lets face it, there are many frustrations on SA. It can be a PITA to work through the SA ladies, and fakes, etc. And no it is not as good as it was 4-6 year ago. However, I think we can all agree as this poster states, there are more fish in the sea and more to come, so be patient. I believe Covid has clearly had a negative effect. Personally I am not looking for high volume. But a small rotation of quality SB's who are not scammers or pros. Semi pro is ok. LOL- that's pretty much what they all are. Right? I guess I have a little bit of the male ***** gene myself, so I don't criticize too much. The quality SB's do exist. But it's hard work to find them and not sure what the alternative is for an older gentlemen like myself. Unless you are looking for pros only and I have not seen a pro since I delved into the SB 4+ years ago. That just me. I find this a much more rewarding experience and I don't date these ladies or have them overnight. Just a couple hours of fun most of the time.

[StevesMilin]

I've dabbled as well on SA and have found a few gems. What us SB and credits? How does it compare in cost and Meet up probability to SA.

I have out there that us pretty cool and would be willing trade.

SB has you buy a number of credits and you spend them 10# to open email with a SB. No time limit.

I think SB has more fakes than SA. But I've met ladies on both. With the SB site you get many solicitation emails, many do not respond to your response even if you do it immediately. I think these are fakes paid by SB. You'll also get a flurry of solicits just before you run out of credits, motivating you to spend more.

[Anonwmlatam]

I'm updating here to my previous post, I had posted the update the other day, but I guess something time out and it never went through.

So my lineup has switched A LOT since my first post, some dropped off, others I dropped, I've seen some, banged. I'll provide details below.

Divorced MILF, 38: I had to drop this one because of the cig smoking, the heavy metal she insisted on blasting, and the lack of chemistry. But let me tell you, she was a FREAK. Loved bb, wanted multiple pops "getting filled up" as she called it. BJ was like a 5/10, and there wasn't much cushion for the pushin. She's probably the most insatiable woman I've ever been with. Literally wanted me inside her the whole time, and wanted me there for hours. It was unmanageable, guess she watched too much porn. But she wanted nothing else in exchange from me. Average looks.

Sorority girl, 19: Very hot, nice ass, but not as thick as I like 'them. She knew what she wanted and I obliged. No DATY for the first time, and she wanted to jackhammer but not in the hot and heavy kind of way, she just wanted me to cum fast. I got to pick her outfit, a nice crotch-less lingerie piece. We got to watch a movie after and had a bit of fun, but pretty vanilla. Probably won't repeat unless she gets freaky. Think Jcrew model looks.

Divorced MILF, 25: Hot body, all the curves in the right places. We met, talked, had chemistry and are planning something soon. She sends me pics almost daily and seems like she just wants sex, but maybe some gifts not sure. Think Sears model looks.

Barista / Goth Artist, 21: This one has the hottest body out of them all, small thin waist, big ass, sends pics and vids. Communication is spotty, but I think I'll take it slow and see what happens.

Sub, 28: This one was taller but also had curves in all the right places. Communication was good, and we were going to meet then radio silence. It happens but I was really looking forward to it. She wanted to chat on an app, I sent her my hobby number before deleting the app, so I'll wait and see.

Business Professional, 28: This one was almost too good to be true, but then I confirmed me have business mutual. Communication was good, then dropped off, and then yesterday she popped back up. Tall, model gorgeous, but has curves for days. Still might be TGTBT, but again I'll wait and see. Just soft pics exchanged and some vids, but nothing serious.

I'll update again since I have a handful more on the line which are very exciting but I don't want to speak too soon. The purpose of this isn't meant for me to brag, instead I just hope people can read this and get a sense of what a timeline feels like for SA. The ups and downs. It also helps me to think back and think about what has happened and to remember to slow down and know that there are always, ALWAYS more fish in the sea. Happy fishing!

[TechTraveler77]

Ditto for me. I'm about to re-up with SB for some credits because I've been contacted by a few mature ladies that look real. Many of the younger ones who look TGTBT absolutely are. More so on SB than SA. But I've found some real gems. My norm is $100. I tell them I increase over time but am not willing to commit to a larger upfront without experience with them.

I've dabbled as well on SA and have found a few gems. What us SB and credits? How does it compare in cost and Meet up probability to SA.

I have out there that us pretty cool and would be willing trade.

[StevesMilin]

I've been on and off SA for several years now. Typically I'll pay for a month or three, find 2-3 girls that I like, then drop my subscription. Stick with those girls for a while, once they move on or I get bored, repeat the process.

Like others have said, it's a time-consuming process. I feel fortunate if I get responses from 5% of the girls that I message. Of those, maybe 1 in 5 continues the conversation long enough to talk about meeting up, and then maybe a quarter of those actually are willing to meet in person.

Cost is more than you'll generally pay from an escort posting, but the benefit is greater too. I usually go with 200 per meet, which generally means a couple of hours at a hotel or my place, almost always multiple shots. And of course the girls are usually younger and hotter than you see on escort postings. Some girls will balk at that and ask for more, which I rarely am willing to do. I can only think of once I went higher, which was only because she was a really hot college girl that I'd already met in person so I knew I wasn't getting scammed.

My latest run on SA hasn't been all that successful here in GR. It's been pretty slim pickings over the last couple of months for me, but as always YMMV. Maybe I'm too picky this time around, or just bad luck not happening to hit the right timing. Still, I'll keep looking for a few more weeks, you never know when a good one will pop up.

Ditto for me. I'm about to re-up with SB for some credits because I've been contacted by a few mature ladies that look real. Many of the younger ones who look TGTBT absolutely are. More so on SB than SA. But I've found some real gems. My norm is $100. I tell them I increase over time but am not willing to commit to a larger upfront without experience with them.

[Gexem]

I've been on and off SA for several years now. Typically I'll pay for a month or three, find 2-3 girls that I like, then drop my subscription. Stick with those girls for a while, once they move on or I get bored, repeat the process.

Like others have said, it's a time-consuming process. I feel fortunate if I get responses from 5% of the girls that I message. Of those, maybe 1 in 5 continues the conversation long enough to talk about meeting up, and then maybe a quarter of those actually are willing to meet in person.

Cost is more than you'll generally pay from an escort posting, but the benefit is greater too. I usually go with 200 per meet, which generally means a couple of hours at a hotel or my place, almost always multiple shots. And of course the girls are usually younger and hotter than you see on escort postings. Some girls will balk at that and ask for more, which I rarely am willing to do. I can only think of once I went higher, which was only because she was a really hot college girl that I'd already met in person so I knew I wasn't getting scammed.

My latest run on SA hasn't been all that successful here in GR. It's been pretty slim pickings over the last couple of months for me, but as always YMMV. Maybe I'm too picky this time around, or just bad luck not happening to hit the right timing. Still, I'll keep looking for a few more weeks, you never know when a good one will pop up.

[Anonwmlatam]

So I bit the bullet and paid the $$ for the premium account and sifted through the noise. The other reports / guides here are right you get something like a 5-15% response rate. Then from there you have like a dozen convos, of which you get a handful of convos that continue offline and "feel" real. I've been asking to swap pics, and I ask them some varying life questions to filter out foreign scams, cammers, etc.

I'm happy to report I have 5 fish on my line right now. All have given me more personal pics, all have agreed to meeting in public to "see if we click" (I did have to charm them a bit and take it a little slow after starting off too fast.).

Ages, 19,22, 27,24, 38.2 sorority girls, 1 average little chubby blonde, 1 spinner, and 1 MILF. 3 local, 2 surrounding cities.

For reference, I'm not very tall (has always hurt me IRL) but I am decently attractive.

I rejected about 4 girls that were either a little to flabby for me, picky, or too far away.

I'll post my continuing saga here, even if I get scammed. Fingers crossed.

[PrivateParts]

Thanks Mike.

I read the Richmond Virginia SB section years ago and found it to be extremely helpful. It's extremely active with tons of posts.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...mateurs-or-Not

Another older, but good post under the MI General Reports section by TheBro:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post3244622

[PrivateParts]

Copying this UTR post here for reference. Topic comes up occasionally in General Reports / Escort Report threads.

Maybe the best way to discover a UTR is on a sugar baby site if you can weed out the pros and girls who think they can get college tuition paid for simply by going to dinner with you. If you find a girl there and she doesn't take down her profile after starting to see you she's not really UTR. It takes investment, time and money, and a little bit of luck to find a good one. Craigslist personals used to be a good place until it shut down, but you needed to be more careful to avoid scams. Now it's straight up Road Warrior. Consider Tinder, POF or even legit dating sites if you are ok with your profile being out there. Lastly if you are adventurous enough to reach out to never before seen ads on escort sites like STG you occasionally can land someone who is brand new who needs to make a quick buck and thinks she'll stop. It requires you to TOFTT and establish a relationship and become her regular. Again, it's a bit of luck, and a member who finds a girl where he can be her one and only client won't want to post reviews and share. Thats the unicorns we all chase.

With any of those it certainly helps if you are personable. If you weren't / aren't very good at flirting and picking up women you might have to throw more cash to make it work.

If you watch this site, you'll see senior members refer to providers who operate UTR by referral. They see multiple clients, so they aren't exclusive, but typically better than the random provider who advertises daily. If you want to be referred you'll need to be in good standing on this forum with good contributions with reviews.

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If you are considering signing up use your common sense and monitor the profiles first. Ask yourself if there are a disproportionate number of extremely hot 20 something women posting in west mi? I found the answer to be yes. No different than the fakes on STG. They are there to pull you in and buy a membership. So focus on those that look like real women with legitimate profiles and try decide if there are enough options that it's worth your while. Just my 2 cents.

... I've been on the arrangement site for about six years and the secret benefits site three years. I am an exceedingly patient person and have had to read through literally dozens of bullshitters to find a few select really fine women. After signing up, you'll get inundated with solicitations which absolutely sound too good to be true. And they are indeed. And, like STG, someday you'll meet will be liars and cheaters and women posting very old pics.

But there are definitely benefits. I've been seeing one GR woman for almost a year now. 47, MILF, built for comfort not speed, but an insatiable sex drive. $100 a visit with no time limit. As often as I can make it to GR. And she is clean and not a volume fucker.

[Blackfire]

Anyone have anything new on the grand rapids scene for sugar babies. I haven't been on sa in a while, so if anyone can steer me in the direction of which grand rapids girls are real, or what the current arrangement expectations are it would be appreciated. Pm if you feel more comfortable that way, or post on here I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in the current state of affairs on sa.

[SmithJon]

I'm a daytime guy only and have always struggled finding good clean places to take sugar baby's on dates because hotel check ins are usually so late. I though about Air B&B's but haven't tried them. I've used the Oasis. Anyone know of babys who host? Place recommendations?

[BasicJo]

I like you. How much to fuck? Do you squirt? Oh and I may have mistakenly mentioned PPM.

I'm a changed man now.

Mind sharing what you said to these girls?

[BasicJo]

Got it! I'm back on anyway. Saw someone mention something about a sugarbook on the Charleston forum so I'm snooping.

Banned? SA's the best of the sites so get a new email address, create a new account and stop saying shit to the girls that will make them report you.

Also, anyone speak to feme_bambi? I'd like to fuck an artist. She hasn't responded.