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  1. #39783
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWiseacre  [View Original Post]
    This above is true for most places. If the mamasan or provider is an "owner", they most likely are not on an LLC. Many times, they are promised "ownership" but they are not anything close to legal shareholders. They are often working down debts or an arrangement where the true owner co-signs credit notes, etc. It's rarely "trafficking" IMO but there are definitely arrangements that borderline on indentured servitude.

    It's crazy how many middle aged providers there are in this town. Many (most?) Asian women don't age as rapidly as the Caucasians so they might look late 20's but they are actually late 30's. It seems like there are stacks of them in their 40's and 50's. But with limited English and an incredible desire to not be in China (or even Korea), providers can make a relatively good income as unskilled laborers.

    I often wonder what the percentage is of mongers at an AMP, and what percentage just wander in looking for a legit massage.
    You are correct in that they can make 3-4 times the income you would make in other jobs appropriate for someone with limited English skills. I estimate the percentage of mongers is very high at an AMP. The word is out. You rarely see female customers and very few of you would invite your pastor to join you for a massage!

  2. #39782

    Going out

    I'm plan on going out to see if anything is good out there I see some post already but was wondering if there anything I should look into. Any help or hint is appreciated.

    PM welcome.

  3. #39781

    Complexity

    Quote Originally Posted by Garthie1  [View Original Post]
    Everybody agrees that it does no good to tip the 'boss'. I'll add that the 'boss' or 'mamasan' may or may not be the actual owner.

    These places operate in several layers- the owner won't usually be the one whose name is on the permit and may also own three or four other spas, possibly in different states, so it's likely that they're not even there.

    Often, they'll hire a former massage girl, whose time is past, to be the front door greeter. She's usually responsible for greeting customers, taking door money, keeping the books, cleaning, washing jizz out of towels, cooking, etc, and gets a tip from the massage girls at the end of the day.

    This business is a racket that's more complex than it seems.
    This above is true for most places. If the mamasan or provider is an "owner", they most likely are not on an LLC. Many times, they are promised "ownership" but they are not anything close to legal shareholders. They are often working down debts or an arrangement where the true owner co-signs credit notes, etc. It's rarely "trafficking" IMO but there are definitely arrangements that borderline on indentured servitude.

    It's crazy how many middle aged providers there are in this town. Many (most?) Asian women don't age as rapidly as the Caucasians so they might look late 20's but they are actually late 30's. It seems like there are stacks of them in their 40's and 50's. But with limited English and an incredible desire to not be in China (or even Korea), providers can make a relatively good income as unskilled laborers.

    I often wonder what the percentage is of mongers at an AMP, and what percentage just wander in looking for a legit massage.

  4. #39780

    Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Garthie1  [View Original Post]
    Everybody agrees that it does no good to tip the 'boss'. I'll add that the 'boss' or 'mamasan' may or may not be the actual owner.

    These places operate in several layers- the owner won't usually be the one whose name is on the permit and may also own three or four other spas, possibly in different states, so it's likely that they're not even there.

    Often, they'll hire a former massage girl, whose time is past, to be the front door greeter. She's usually responsible for greeting customers, taking door money, keeping the books, cleaning, washing jizz out of towels, cooking, etc, and gets a tip from the massage girls at the end of the day.

    This business is a racket that's more complex than it seems.
    But Oldti says that tipping mamasan can get you better services, I'm just sayin.

  5. #39779
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyWookie  [View Original Post]
    Maybe I'm way off base but how does tipping the boss help you get the girl in the room to let you bang her? I mean doors are shut your alone, its dark in the room (I turn down the lights myself when I enter a room). If the girl is going to give it up it will be because she wants money herself. I can't see a girl saying OK stick it in because mamasan said I should let you? Maybe I'm not getting it. If the girl wants to do it, she'll do it and the boss will never know. Well not unless they read this board and someone posts on it.
    Everybody agrees that it does no good to tip the 'boss'. I'll add that the 'boss' or 'mamasan' may or may not be the actual owner.

    These places operate in several layers- the owner won't usually be the one whose name is on the permit and may also own three or four other spas, possibly in different states, so it's likely that they're not even there.

    Often, they'll hire a former massage girl, whose time is past, to be the front door greeter. She's usually responsible for greeting customers, taking door money, keeping the books, cleaning, washing jizz out of towels, cooking, etc, and gets a tip from the massage girls at the end of the day.

    This business is a racket that's more complex than it seems.

  6. #39778
    Quote Originally Posted by Rodsim  [View Original Post]
    I went last Saturday, early morning when I got there I rang the bell and no one answer. I heard someone on the back so stay in the lobby for like 5 min until someone came out. It was a older lady around 50 or 60 she was very ugly. She told me to come back in 30 min, I said ok I'll be back but never came back. I honestly don't recommend.
    Same, lady is over 65, awful teeth, and smells like smoke.

    I'd drive 2 more blocks and go to Oasis, that lady is in her 50's at least and nice.

  7. #39777
    Quote Originally Posted by Worf359  [View Original Post]
    While Spa18 does and has in the past had some very cute girls they very quickly get a severe case of GPS. Cherry has had a few average ladies who would go further then standard but they don't hang around long. Stopped by Min Hua just to see who was there and almost had a coronary episode. New girl said her name was April in good English now here is the shocker. She wasn't skinny I would not go as far as to say she was thick because you need both top and bottom to qualify for thick but she did have more ass than four average massage parlor girls combined. Going to have to try and get by there on a Sunday afternoon.
    Let us know how it goes. How was the ass? Big and round or big and flat?

  8. #39776
    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicDice  [View Original Post]
    Visited Piao Xue in Marietta on 41 last week. Lisa was the only provider and I had a short 10 minute wait. She was masked, so I'm guessing in her 40's, pudgy but not too overweight. I asked for medium and the massage was one of the hardest I've had. I don't think I could survive a 'hard' massage from her. On the flip, she did a slow sensual tease where she barely brushed the boys. Roaming UTC up top was allowed. When she finally started the jack, it was just right. Not too much oil or too high speed. After my finish and clean up, she continued the massage for the rest of the hour. Overall a decent massage, a full hour, and HE for 60 H /40 T.
    Sounds like your average AMP visit. Thanks for the report.

  9. #39775

    Spa18 vs Cherry

    While Spa18 does and has in the past had some very cute girls they very quickly get a severe case of GPS. Cherry has had a few average ladies who would go further then standard but they don't hang around long. Stopped by Min Hua just to see who was there and almost had a coronary episode. New girl said her name was April in good English now here is the shocker. She wasn't skinny I would not go as far as to say she was thick because you need both top and bottom to qualify for thick but she did have more ass than four average massage parlor girls combined. Going to have to try and get by there on a Sunday afternoon.

  10. #39774
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyWookie  [View Original Post]
    Who gave the better experience? Angel or Lemon?
    Got a gander at most of the gals here. They look like they have been road hard and left out wet to dry.

  11. #39773
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyWookie  [View Original Post]
    You should be grateful you got such a young one! Most of the parlors recruit women after they start collecting social security.
    Yup, that's all we have in Atlanta right now......lol

  12. #39772

    Angela from Pearl

    Does anyone know whatever happened to Angela from Pearl? Is she still in the area anywhere?

  13. #39771

    55?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyGaGa1  [View Original Post]
    Came in town for a few days and was very disappointed at the state here. Are there any nice "clean" massage places with semi attractive women? By attractive I suppose in Atalantaese that means under 30 and doesn't have skin like a catchers mitt. I went to several and only found mostly already looted rather dingy looking places. Not concerned about extras but can't relax with a 55 year old chain smoker touching me. Thanks.
    You should be grateful you got such a young one! Most of the parlors recruit women after they start collecting social security.

  14. #39770
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias  [View Original Post]
    I've never tipped a boss.

    What they LOVE is repeat customers. When I've been a regular (in the past, I've been a regular at a few spas, Gold, Holiday, some others I've forgotten) I've been treated like gold; they'll usually remember your "type" as well (the mamasan at Gold used to say "you like small and young, I have girl for you" and in would come some new spinner. The good old days.).

    At Gold I would sometimes even hang out after a session, have some Korean food with a few of the girls. Pretty homey! Perks of being a regular.

    But I never once tipped the boss (and I didn't haggle, either, and they usually offered me a fair price.).

    O.
    Reminds me what T+ used to be like prior to the most recent mamasan. She treated me very well. I recall tipping mamasan a 20 or 40 one time but she told me to give it to the worker instead. Mamasan was pretty cute too. I was able to get a freebie HE from her once on the TS. Anyway gone are the days from T+.

    Anyway, that's been my experiences with tipping the Mamasan and being a regular.

  15. #39769

    Massage

    Came in town for a few days and was very disappointed at the state here. Are there any nice "clean" massage places with semi attractive women? By attractive I suppose in Atalantaese that means under 30 and doesn't have skin like a catchers mitt. I went to several and only found mostly already looted rather dingy looking places. Not concerned about extras but can't relax with a 55 year old chain smoker touching me. Thanks.

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