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  1. #9195

    FS vs Massage

    Quote Originally Posted by RickyDicky  [View Original Post]
    Hong was always nice because it was understood what the tip would be and there were no negotiations so no buzz kill. When you're looking at $ for 30 minutes with HE you might as well go to an escort where you'll get a full menu with no negotiations, crappy massage included if you ask. Hopefully Hong rethinks this increase. I know I'm not going back until it's reported that tips are back to normal.
    Trust me. I have played the math in my head multiple times. Unfortunately, there are two factors which have almost made me a massage person:

    1. I love massages. I actually see a legit MT twice a month and I pay her 175 for 120 minutes of massage. No extras. She massages pretty close to the boys, gets my glutes completely and I have ejaculated a few times during the session. I usually DIY after she leaves the room. And no, I am not sharing her details because she is not a provider but you can find her on massagebook.com. She is one of the top therapists there. I have been burned once in the past with a referral on her.

    2. I have partaken in most of the QV offerings here and the locations and quality of the providers leave much to be desired.

    3. The risk of being caught at an AMP is much lower than being caught in a sting escort situation. My own assessment of course.

    We all do what works for us. I have clarified this on the other post. My tipping at all the places has been predicted, even if you deem it inflated.

    Peace.

    Ob.

  2. #9194

    Tipping at Hong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rimme  [View Original Post]
    I really mean no disrespect as you spend your cash any way you see fit. It's yours. With that being agreed upon, the amount of money you state as being what works for you is also part of the escalating prices we all are seeing. Four months ago, $60 bought the same service at Hong. A year ago, it was $40 and when they first opened, $20.

    It's easy to make money, harder to keep it and this is not my first post on this subject. If the numbers you stated as your comfort levels of spending are accurate, can you then see yourself as a contributing factor of the pay raises they've given themselves? Again. I'm not picking a fight, just trying to point out my ongoing observations and how the rest of us must pay up to the bar that keeps being raised.
    My point was that, while it might be a reflection on my horrible negotiation skills, my tipping over the last 3 years has not seen any escalation.

    For eg: I can clearly remember once that I was able to suck tits for. 4 tip (New girl, I was the first one and I rolled the dice). Since the days of EDEN, I have found that although HE has ranged from. 2 to. 4, I could never get anyone topless for less than. 6. Or I have never been able to suck tits for less than. 8.

    Trust me, I am not made of money but I have a threshold of how much arguing / begging I need to do to bring the tips down.

    If I am complicit in creating heartburn for other tippers, that is unfortunate but I am not apologetic.

    I also was validating, that it is ok to stop negotiations and get up. I do that for my thresholds.

    Peace.

    Ob.

  3. #9193
    Senior Member


    Posts: 120

    We've already lost

    Quote Originally Posted by Observant  [View Original Post]
    Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.

    Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.

    She came down to. 8.

    I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.

    They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.

    If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.

    You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.

    Ob.
    I really mean no disrespect as you spend your cash any way you see fit. It's yours. With that being agreed upon, the amount of money you state as being what works for you is also part of the escalating prices we all are seeing. Four months ago, $60 bought the same service at Hong. A year ago, it was $40 and when they first opened, $20.

    It's easy to make money, harder to keep it and this is not my first post on this subject. If the numbers you stated as your comfort levels of spending are accurate, can you then see yourself as a contributing factor of the pay raises they've given themselves? Again. I'm not picking a fight, just trying to point out my ongoing observations and how the rest of us must pay up to the bar that keeps being raised.

  4. #9192

    My role in the Hong Tipping Fiasco

    I want to apologize to everyone on this board for what is happening at Hong. I certainly played a role in it, if I'm not the primary cause. I never, ever considered that my tipping habits would have this sort of downstream effect. I know, I know; I should have known: its not rocket science. I f-ed up. I don't know how to fix things, but I can promise you all that I will stop doing it, immediately.

    Again, I am sorry. I was a dumbass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Observant  [View Original Post]
    Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.

    Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.

    She came down to. 8.

    I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.

    They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.

    If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.

    You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.

    Ob.

  5. #9191

    Hong Tipping

    Quote Originally Posted by Observant  [View Original Post]
    Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.

    Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.

    She came down to. 8.

    I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.

    They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.

    If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.

    You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.

    Ob.
    Hong was always nice because it was understood what the tip would be and there were no negotiations so no buzz kill. When you're looking at $ for 30 minutes with HE you might as well go to an escort where you'll get a full menu with no negotiations, crappy massage included if you ask. Hopefully Hong rethinks this increase. I know I'm not going back until it's reported that tips are back to normal.

  6. #9190
    Quote Originally Posted by Icfts  [View Original Post]
    Pretty good massage and extra. My new go-to.
    How Open was the Menu?

  7. #9189

    Supply and demand

    Quote Originally Posted by HillbillyBob  [View Original Post]
    TRUE. They need our money more then we need their pussy. You walk out they loose the money we can always go find pussy elsewhere that is worth the price. I don't care to pay more for good service but will walk when they try to upcharge or start with I don't do this an don't do that.
    Theoretically, I agree with you, but the buyers in this market are not always rational. You know there is the expression "thinking with the little head". In extreme cases, interest in the hobby can be an addiction.

  8. #9188

    Agree with Ronnie Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie0927  [View Original Post]
    You do realize this is happening because the girls are demanding this and they are getting this. It's pretty simple. When they ask for 60 say no. If they short you on time. Don't tip. They will continue to get away with this if we allow them to. I play on a few different types of playgrounds (AMP, SA and Escorts) and I have noticed a similar trend. Prices are going up. Service is going down. Girls are getting nastier and this whole hobby crap is starting to get exhausting. I fear that this trend will become the new norm unless it gets squashed. We are the ones who can fix it but I doubt it will change. Maybe I should start searching the threads for those plastic robot chics!! LOL stay safe gents and stop rewarding and paying for shitty service! Ronnie out.
    I must agree with Ronnie man about this, it is up to us. Supply and Demand relationship has a fundamental basis in that the item demanded must be "had" - can not be substituted or just abandoned and therefore the supplier is in control. Well that is not really the case in this area and you can say no. That will bring the price down because the supplier in this case has no option but to supply or go without the life style accustomed.

    No a more interesting side note I have been to a number of places and found that menus are more wide open than ever pre covid. I don't know if this is a YMMV situation but I am finding Cincy to be moving in the direction of Florida.

    Any others finding the menu expanding. As a result. 6 for a handshake ain't even considered.

  9. #9187

    Hong Tipping

    Quote Originally Posted by RedChevy1994  [View Original Post]
    Been going for a long time. Girls are getting an attitude and saying hurry up massage over early, ruining it and now want 6 for standard. Ridiculous. Very disappointed.
    Tipping at Hong is a hot topic. I went there yest and drew one that I had seen before. She asked me what her name was and I rattled off all the names except her. LOL.

    Good 20-25 min massage. On flip she asked $ for topless and sucking tits. I said no. I told her my standard rates. 4 for HE. . 6 for topless and. 8 for titty sucking.

    She came down to. 8.

    I know this topic riles off everyone but this is what I have been doing for over 3 years and works for me.

    They will break down. Stick to your guns. There was a girl at Hong who smacked my hand and I ended the message. As I was walking away, by chance the owner was there and she made me sit down and apologized and then lined up another girl for ending.

    If their ask does not line up with my tipping thresholds, I will DIY with OTC and hand. 2.

    You tip what you think the service is worth and what you can afford. There is no such things as standard tipping rates.

    Ob.

  10. #9186
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie0927  [View Original Post]
    Normally when the "market" does this the "product" doesn't get crappier. I never have a problem with paying more for better service, but why should we all spend more for lack luster service? Shouldn't we be the ones setting the market regarding the hobby? Just food for thought.
    TRUE. They need our money more then we need their pussy. You walk out they loose the money we can always go find pussy elsewhere that is worth the price. I don't care to pay more for good service but will walk when they try to upcharge or start with I don't do this an don't do that.

  11. #9185
    Quote Originally Posted by HillbillyBob  [View Original Post]
    Her ad says she from Milwaukee. I text her an she said she as in a motel downtown an gave her donation. Gave me her rates an said she could be ready any time. I ask on the Milwaukee board for info on her haven't heard anything back yet. I will post if I get more info. Until then I will hold off. HB.
    https://cincinnati.rubratings.com/186273

    Got a reply from Milwaukee about the provider from RR. They said scam gives apartment or motel then want money up front. I would pass on this one. You can go to the Milwaukee massage parlor forum see the reply.

  12. #9184
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier268  [View Original Post]
    Long time follower on here, first time poster.

    Wondering if anyone has any intel on this new one on RR.

    https://cincinnati.rubratings.com/186273

    I'm generally pretty good on digging stuff up, but any help would be appreciated.
    Her ad says she from Milwaukee. I text her an she said she as in a motel downtown an gave her donation. Gave me her rates an said she could be ready any time. I ask on the Milwaukee board for info on her haven't heard anything back yet. I will post if I get more info. Until then I will hold off. HB.

  13. #9183

    Agree but.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vilnius  [View Original Post]
    This ebb and flow in service and price is as old as the hobby itself. Peaks and valleys, guys. That's not to say that I think anyone should pay more than they are comfortable with, just pointing out that the market has literally always done this.
    Normally when the "market" does this the "product" doesn't get crappier. I never have a problem with paying more for better service, but why should we all spend more for lack luster service? Shouldn't we be the ones setting the market regarding the hobby? Just food for thought.

  14. #9182

    Take it from an old timer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie0927  [View Original Post]
    You do realize this is happening because the girls are demanding this and they are getting this. It's pretty simple. When they ask for 60 say no. If they short you on time. Don't tip. They will continue to get away with this if we allow them to. I play on a few different types of playgrounds (AMP, SA and Escorts) and I have noticed a similar trend. Prices are going up. Service is going down. Girls are getting nastier and this whole hobby crap is starting to get exhausting. I fear that this trend will become the new norm unless it gets squashed. We are the ones who can fix it but I doubt it will change. Maybe I should start searching the threads for those plastic robot chics!! LOL stay safe gents and stop rewarding and paying for shitty service! Ronnie out.
    This ebb and flow in service and price is as old as the hobby itself. Peaks and valleys, guys. That's not to say that I think anyone should pay more than they are comfortable with, just pointing out that the market has literally always done this.

  15. #9181
    Regular Member


    Posts: 14

    Visited Hong again

    Visited Hong- Middletown again. Fairly good massage for an hr. Worked well this time with a standard ending. A bit rushed at the end and short by 10 min.

    0. 6.

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