Massage Parlor Reports

**Chipper321** · 07-26-20 10:28

Since my last report. I've remained active but really haven't had much to write about.

I've recently moved to the Davenport area and decided to give my area some business. I drove to the Reunion area and found one off Osceola polk line and Old Lake Wilson Rd.

It was just an ok massage 80 for the hr including a TS, she asked for 60 for HE but settled for 50, which I still overpaid.

Nothing to write home about, but still decided to write here. So there you go.

Be safe.

BTW, any suggestions, recommendations in the Davenport area? I'm just really looking for a good rubdown more than anything.

**WestcoastRydah** · 07-26-20 09:19

Originally Posted by DrWilly [View Original Post]

A "forty-something in cutoff jeans and a non-descript tee shirt" sure doens't sound like you were in the same NDS that I've been in (several times), nor does the "take a shower by yourself" offer, or the "money on a tray" practice.

*I'm* wondering if you were really in the Massage place at the other end of the string of stores in that multiple building strip shopping center complex. I don't even know what that place is called, nor do I remember reading any reports about it other than guys going there by accident. I've attached two screen shots of the different store fronts, each labeled to identify which is which. If you could take a look at those pics and then confirm which place you were in, that would be helpful. To hear that the real NDS has started presenting itself in the manner you describe would be disappointing, but still good to know for sure. Thanks!

Also, I've got to try to get over to Island sometime. There's been a number of positive reports but I haven't been able to tear myself away from the other places yet! If I remember correctly, Island is next to a gas station on the southeast corner of I-Drive and Municipal Drive (and with very little room for parking), right?

Yes, that's where Island spa is located.

**SuperTrooper** · 07-26-20 07:51

Guys I am thinking of making a 3 hr drive to Orlando today and noticed MC is closed on Sundays. MC has been my go to for a long time now so haven't really explored others. Can you recommend someone that is open on Sundays and we'll worth the drive. Also any talent in Sanford area? Any help is appreciated it.

**Dr Willy** · 07-26-20 00:10

Originally Posted by NiceGuy1956 [View Original Post]

I'm passing through for the night. Got in mid-afternoon and decided to try out one of the sought after spots. NDS was closest to my hotel; headed there. Was greeted by a forty-something in cutoff jeans and a non-descript tee shirt. She took me back and we settled on an hour; gave her. 80. She then alerts me that it will be 15 minutes and I might want to content myself with a shower by myself. I said, "no", grabbed my 80 from her tray and told her I would think about a return. Though I had no intention of doing so. Drove over to Island...

A "forty-something in cutoff jeans and a non-descript tee shirt" sure doens't sound like you were in the same NDS that I've been in (several times), nor does the "take a shower by yourself" offer, or the "money on a tray" practice.

*I'm* wondering if you were really in the Massage place at the other end of the string of stores in that multiple building strip shopping center complex. I don't even know what that place is called, nor do I remember reading any reports about it other than guys going there by accident. I've attached two screen shots of the different store fronts, each labeled to identify which is which. If you could take a look at those pics and then confirm which place you were in, that would be helpful. To hear that the real NDS has started presenting itself in the manner you describe would be disappointing, but still good to know for sure. Thanks!

Also, I've got to try to get over to Island sometime. There's been a number of positive reports but I haven't been able to tear myself away from the other places yet! If I remember correctly, Island is next to a gas station on the southeast corner of I-Drive and Municipal Drive (and with very little room for parking), right?

**NiceGuy1956** · 07-25-20 21:42

I'm passing through for the night. Got in mid-afternoon and decided to try out one of the sought after spots. NDS was closest to my hotel; headed there. Was greeted by a forty-something in cutoff jeans and a non-descript tee shirt. She took me back and we settled on an hour; gave her. 80. She then alerts me that it will be 15 minutes and I might want to content myself with a shower by myself. I said, "no", grabbed my 80 from her tray and told her I would think about a return. Though I had no intention of doing so. Drove over to Island. Lots of cars so I called and asked if they were busy. She said, "no, we're waiting for you. " I went in and drew XiXi. Table shower was not one like I've read about at KMS. It was a simple good cleaning with attention paid to jr. Xixi is a beautiful girl. Her only flaw are a set of flat teeth. Her body is stunning. Her manner is beautiful. Gave me a first class massage for the. 80 fee. On the flip, asked what I wanted and I nodded to her FS signal, got up and got her $. 20. We bowed as I gave it to her. She returned with a condom and the next 20-25 minutes were first class changes of position, finishing in doggy. She cleaned me up and then massaged my scalp, the front of my thighs and feet. She's a gem.

**Barolo** · 07-25-20 19:50

Originally Posted by MedellinMike [View Original Post]

That was big news, no mystery at all. She is a little Vietnamese viper. Has not gone to trial yet, won't be surprised to see her drag down as many girls as she can with her or try to bargain her way out by throwing someone under the bus. Never liked her. Think she is a snake.

Agreed! I saw her twice at the old Natural? Spa on Mills. She was very uppity. Her sister who actually was listed as the owner of CB was not a massage therapist.

**WestcoastRydah** · 07-25-20 12:08

Originally Posted by Heat2013 [View Original Post]

I don't post every encounter as I should but this was my second time seeing Mickey and she is amazing. I know these girls are paid to act but she is not only the hottest little package I have ever seen at an AMP but she makes you feel like she is in love with you. Any mongers out there need to run to see her asap. On a side note while I was with her today, I asked her about Jenny and she said she was on vacation. Also the mamasan is super hot, anybody have any luck with her?

I've seen Snow / Kiko once at BO and once at MC, beautiful, nice body, boobs are nice but I think they're enhanced, didn't do b2 b in the TS just a wash and a very quick BJ preview. Service was mechanical, she may be the best looking one there but the others give far better service in my opinion, but as always YMMV.

**Member #6476** · 07-25-20 12:01

I don't post every encounter as I should but this was my second time seeing Mickey and she is amazing. I know these girls are paid to act but she is not only the hottest little package I have ever seen at an AMP but she makes you feel like she is in love with you. Any mongers out there need to run to see her asap. On a side note while I was with her today, I asked her about Jenny and she said she was on vacation. Also the mamasan is super hot, anybody have any luck with her?

**Dr Willy** · 07-24-20 23:32

Originally Posted by Barolo [View Original Post]

The is no secret about what happened to Cherry Blossom. Go look at articles in the paper. Kim, her sister, her husband and another man, all arrested under RICO. Over $300k from bank accts, 40k in cash hidden in a car and gold bars confiscated.

Back at the time (2017 if I recall correctly), I searched and searched for some kind of news reports and didn't find any. Then I got bored and quit even thinking about it. I think I *DO* read this thread pretty thoroughly and, while I may well have missed it, I don't recall seeing any summary report here, even as much as you just reported, so thanks for the info.

When I "go look at articles in the paper", as suggested, I see that this only got reported just in December of 2019, like TWO YEARS after closure. I found this link when Googling the phrase "Cherry Blossom RICO arrest":

https://www.dailypress.com/os-ne-ly-...kk4-story.html

That article (dated 12/6/2019) appears to be written as NEW information as of publishing date. If that's accurate, then I assume the details were (understandably) kept under wraps until the prosecution had their case fully assembled.

While interesting, that's all still ancient history (2017) and doesn't appear to be focused on clients, nor even the providers for that matter. I still don't see how any of that could be related to LE doing harrassent stops of clients at KMS or NDS today. That just makes no sense that LE would be SO obvious if they really had anything on the establishments themselves. If one wanted to really stretch one's imagination, I suppose one theory could be that LE is attempting to dry up their cash-flow for purposes of "tracking" existing assets, or something like that. Like I said originally... totally irresponsible speculation! I should just keep that crap for my Perry Mason script/screenplay!

Let's all go back to talking about the Sheriff Elections and note that the Sheriff in Lake County is apparently running UNOPPOSED (must be a swell guy) with no motivation to conduct this type of LE work, although I think that's an "AMP-wasteland". Meanwhile, Seminole County incumbant Sheriff (Republican) only has one opponent (Democrat), so the August 18th Primary is meaningless there and the November general election will be the culmination of their attention-grabbing activities.

**MedellinMike** · 07-24-20 23:01

Originally Posted by Barolo [View Original Post]

The is no secret about what happened to Cherry Blossom. Go look at articles in the paper. Kim, her sister, her husband and another man, all arrested under RICO. Over $300k from bank accts, 40k in cash hidden in a car and gold bars confiscated.

That was big news, no mystery at all. She is a little Vietnamese viper. Has not gone to trial yet, won't be surprised to see her drag down as many girls as she can with her or try to bargain her way out by throwing someone under the bus. Never liked her. Think she is a snake.

**Barolo** · 07-24-20 22:28

Originally Posted by DrWilly [View Original Post]

I really hesitate to add to this churn that gets everybody all upset, anxious, and most likely needlessly nervous, but here I go:

While LE reports have focused on just ONE ownership chain in Orlando (NDS/KMS/King), the observations about Sheriff elections may be relevant across the two counties involved. A little light research on the Osceola County Sheriff Election indicates that (in my WAY less than expert analysis), of the four candidates, two of them seem viable. Of those two, one is the single term incumbant and seems to get a lot of criticism in media and from other LE groups for being inexperienced, borderline ineffective, and demonstrating ineffective leadership among the deputies, while the main contender looks to be more qualified, more organized, more thoughtful in his positions on various aspects of running the office. Both candidates are Democrat with no other party on the ballot, which means the August 18th Primary is the defacto decision point for who get's the job. If ANY of that is even close to the actual competitive situation, it would seem to mean there's a real battle for the hearts-n-minds (and votes) of the electorate. A "crack-down" on AMP's would seem to be a logical side-effect of this. I didn't bother to look into the Orange County Sheriff's election beyond the fact there are FIVE candidates on the ballot. ALL are Democrat, with the same deal here that the August 18th Primary will be the end of the "campaigning" (and hopefully the end of the urge to demonstrate 'street toughness' with AMP crack-downs).

Elections aside, the Kraft-debacle relied on what has turned out to be pretty much illegal surveilance cameras (or at least pretty much thrown out as evidence) that were placed under a "bomb threat" ruse, whereby LE gained access to physically place their cameras. I trust (perhaps recklessly) that ALL AMP owners are "on" to any little trick like that by now, so I believe that there is minimal risk that there will be any video evidence, legal or not, in play with the current situation around Orlando. One point made below that, whether LE behaves 'legally' or not, or plays 'fairly' or not, if they find some reason to start arresting mongers, only to cut them lose later, that little tour through the County Criminal Justice System still bears potential negative consequences for lots of guys.

What I haven't seen anyone irresponsibly speculate about yet is the fact that the current "lead" managers of the NDS/KMS/King/et.al. chain, being Yuki and Mona, were long time highly experienced staff employees at the now closed Cherry Blossom AMP on North Bumby. THAT place was closed down under a cloud of mystery (at least I don't recall seeing any reliable explanation) with some members here even reporting that they witnessed a swarm of SWAT vehicles descend on the place with helmuted, flack-jacketed, long-gun bearing, commandos running all around. Whether that description was accurately rendered or not, the fact appears to remain that NONE of the activity surrounding the raid and closure appeared anywhere in local news media. When does THAT ever happen!? I'm sort of guessing that there MAY possibly be SOME members here who have a close enough relationship with Yuki and/or Mona to have discreetly asked them just what the heck went on there and gotten some sort of explantion, which that member may well have vowed not to disclose, and I don't dispute anyone's right to keep such information confidential, but a little hint would at least go a long way to dispell any wild rumors about that situation. Back on topic, and without benefit of knowing ANYTHING about what actually went down at Cherry Blossom, an irresponsible and speculative gossip might wonder if there was some kind of tax issue, or 'organized crime' situation at Cherry Blossom with some higher level people targeted for arrest/capture (i.e. NOT the girls and certainly not the customers). If THAT were true, then *PERHAPS* some of those targeted high level people evaded capture and have now burrowed deeper into the woodwork (to avoid detection) but are STILL involved in financially backing the operations ostensibly "run" by Yuki and Mona. If LE were to become aware, or even incorrectly conclude, that NDS/KMS/King are a resurrection of whatever was going on at Cherry Blossom that warranted the raid and closure, they might be expected to apply focus accordingly.

The point of that last paragraph boils down to simply identifying a common thread (Yuki and Mona) between two situations where LE was involved. In the case of Cherry Blossom, we all know the result (closure) if not the actual circumstances. Extrapolation of that situation, taking into account that common thread, may make one wonder if the same thing will end up being the result in the curent situation. What occurs to me is that traffic stops are NOT the way (in my opinion) for LE to discreetly go about any sort of investigation of such things, so this probably isn't a consideration here.

Gee. This is fun! Fiction can be so enthralling! I should write a screenplay treatment for the 3rd season of the revived Perry Mason on HBO!

The is no secret about what happened to Cherry Blossom. Go look at articles in the paper. Kim, her sister, her husband and another man, all arrested under RICO. Over $300k from bank accts, 40k in cash hidden in a car and gold bars confiscated.

**Dr Willy** · 07-24-20 19:57

I really hesitate to add to this churn that gets everybody all upset, anxious, and most likely needlessly nervous, but here I go:

While LE reports have focused on just ONE ownership chain in Orlando (NDS/KMS/King), the observations about Sheriff elections may be relevant across the two counties involved. A little light research on the Osceola County Sheriff Election indicates that (in my WAY less than expert analysis), of the four candidates, two of them seem viable. Of those two, one is the single term incumbant and seems to get a lot of criticism in media and from other LE groups for being inexperienced, borderline ineffective, and demonstrating ineffective leadership among the deputies, while the main contender looks to be more qualified, more organized, more thoughtful in his positions on various aspects of running the office. Both candidates are Democrat with no other party on the ballot, which means the August 18th Primary is the defacto decision point for who get's the job. If ANY of that is even close to the actual competitive situation, it would seem to mean there's a real battle for the hearts-n-minds (and votes) of the electorate. A "crack-down" on AMP's would seem to be a logical side-effect of this. I didn't bother to look into the Orange County Sheriff's election beyond the fact there are FIVE candidates on the ballot. ALL are Democrat, with the same deal here that the August 18th Primary will be the end of the "campaigning" (and hopefully the end of the urge to demonstrate 'street toughness' with AMP crack-downs).

Elections aside, the Kraft-debacle relied on what has turned out to be pretty much illegal surveilance cameras (or at least pretty much thrown out as evidence) that were placed under a "bomb threat" ruse, whereby LE gained access to physically place their cameras. I trust (perhaps recklessly) that ALL AMP owners are "on" to any little trick like that by now, so I believe that there is minimal risk that there will be any video evidence, legal or not, in play with the current situation around Orlando. One point made below that, whether LE behaves 'legally' or not, or plays 'fairly' or not, if they find some reason to start arresting mongers, only to cut them lose later, that little tour through the County Criminal Justice System still bears potential negative consequences for lots of guys.

What I haven't seen anyone irresponsibly speculate about yet is the fact that the current "lead" managers of the NDS/KMS/King/et.al. chain, being Yuki and Mona, were long time highly experienced staff employees at the now closed Cherry Blossom AMP on North Bumby. THAT place was closed down under a cloud of mystery (at least I don't recall seeing any reliable explanation) with some members here even reporting that they witnessed a swarm of SWAT vehicles descend on the place with helmuted, flack-jacketed, long-gun bearing, commandos running all around. Whether that description was accurately rendered or not, the fact appears to remain that NONE of the activity surrounding the raid and closure appeared anywhere in local news media. When does THAT ever happen!? I'm sort of guessing that there MAY possibly be SOME members here who have a close enough relationship with Yuki and/or Mona to have discreetly asked them just what the heck went on there and gotten some sort of explantion, which that member may well have vowed not to disclose, and I don't dispute anyone's right to keep such information confidential, but a little hint would at least go a long way to dispell any wild rumors about that situation. Back on topic, and without benefit of knowing ANYTHING about what actually went down at Cherry Blossom, an irresponsible and speculative gossip might wonder if there was some kind of tax issue, or 'organized crime' situation at Cherry Blossom with some higher level people targeted for arrest/capture (i.e. NOT the girls and certainly not the customers). If THAT were true, then *PERHAPS* some of those targeted high level people evaded capture and have now burrowed deeper into the woodwork (to avoid detection) but are STILL involved in financially backing the operations ostensibly "run" by Yuki and Mona. If LE were to become aware, or even incorrectly conclude, that NDS/KMS/King are a resurrection of whatever was going on at Cherry Blossom that warranted the raid and closure, they might be expected to apply focus accordingly.

The point of that last paragraph boils down to simply identifying a common thread (Yuki and Mona) between two situations where LE was involved. In the case of Cherry Blossom, we all know the result (closure) if not the actual circumstances. Extrapolation of that situation, taking into account that common thread, may make one wonder if the same thing will end up being the result in the curent situation. What occurs to me is that traffic stops are NOT the way (in my opinion) for LE to discreetly go about any sort of investigation of such things, so this probably isn't a consideration here.

Gee. This is fun! Fiction can be so enthralling! I should write a screenplay treatment for the 3rd season of the revived Perry Mason on HBO!

**Grain 56** · 07-24-20 18:54

I agree that it is more election related than anything. If you see an uptick in SW arrests, escort stings and Johns being arrested, then there's no doubt the sheriff will be feeding off the free publicity given for arresting so many hardened criminals! If you check the Grey Bar Resort's guest list though, there haven't been too many Prostitution Arrests in Orange County in the past 6 months, a hand full and that's it covering Male and Female. The odd part is, for the spas, they usually want the owners arrested and then to save all the sex slave (their words, not mine) workers, they are usually not after the patrons. I think it's just an intimidation move or they are trying to gather intel from loose lipped patrons.

Just keep your eyes open and follow all street / driving laws and rules when leaving. Don't give away free info if you are pulled over and keep your mouth SHUT. The coming weeks will tell if we will see more LEO activity to pick up so re-election chances are greater. Also happens before big events in town (sports, conventions, etc.) to "clean up the city beautiful".

My opinion.

Grain 56.

Originally Posted by HotBoss [View Original Post]

Don't forget that the Sheriff is up for re-election. The primary election is August 18th. Asian massage parlors are like low hanging fruit and the media always runs with it.

I'm always a little more careful prior to elections for Mayors, Sheriffs, and City Attorneys.

Originally Posted by RatFish [View Original Post]

I agree with this assessment - 1 or 2 guys getting stopped is just random, but this could be part of a larger operation to try to shut these places down. LE isn't stupid, they read these forums and know what's going on. Someone may have mandated a crackdown. As always everybody has to gauge their own level of risk.

And yes Be Safe.

**VincentGambini** · 07-24-20 16:16

Originally Posted by LastMarshall [View Original Post]

As a retired LEO the guy who was arrested had a warrant on him. What goes on behind closed doors they have no idea, but they are fishing. Just give them your papers and if asked about the massage just state you have a back injury and you have to get a therapeutic massage on a regular basis to keep the pain at bay. Nothing else needs to be said. Harassment you bet, but just act as if you had left a legit spa like Hands of Stone no need to use uber or park across the street why? They have no idea what you are doing for example. You go into a bar to play some pool while inside you only consume coke or Pepsi when you leave you are stopped and tested for a DUI why? They had no idea what you were drinking it was behind closed doors you pass the test and drive on. Same thing here get your nut behind closed doors and drive on and keep mouth shut.

Originally Posted by Everlast1 [View Original Post]

Last Marshall, in a typical scenario I would completely agree with you. There is obviously so much more going on. This is not just a random monger being pulled over, fishing, maybe. If this happened at one spa, I would feel differently. As everyone knows KmS, ND, King are all inter linked. They also have spas in Miami and Fort Lauderdale. Does no one find it odd that people are also getting pulled over at all their spas? Maybe that doesn't worry you bust scares the shit out of me. What makes it worse, the police have been going into these spas on a frequent basis lately. Something is up, something is about to go down or at least some agency is preparing a big case. Please give me your thoughts, you being ex law know better than me.

As a retired criminal defense attorney from the movies, I see no harm in being careful in addressing these matters. While LastMarshall is likely correct in a general sense, I'd suggest there's more to it, and more to be cautious about. First, the Robert Kraft cases down south clearly demonstrate that these sort of activities by LE can, and do, lead to arrests. While Kraft et al are currently winning the battle towards dismissal of the charges, the fact remains that they were arrested, booked into jail, had to post bond, had to retain attorneys and had their names put in the public domain for prostitution related arrests. Whether all charges are dismissed is almost irrelevant, a lot of damage to public reputation has already occurred. Second, even assuming LE in the Kraft matter acted appropriately (perhaps subject to a longer / different discussion), I don't think any of us are naive enough to believe that ALL LE act appropriately at ALL times. We've all heard stories of arrests that shouldn't have occurred, traffic stops that seemed nothing more than pretextual or people being prosecuted for bogus or at least inflated charges. These things happen. I do not want any of those things to happen to me and, in turn, I've got no problem being careful in how I conduct myself in the hobby life. After all, isn't that a huge part of why this site even exists, so we can share information and make better, smarter, decisions? The defense rests!

**RatFish** · 07-24-20 16:15

Originally Posted by YoWarn [View Original Post]

Is everyone forgetting how things went down in south florida? They were recording for what, a week? All the while they would pull people over on their way out to match the I'd to the recording and eventually arrested everyone at a later date. Not sure how some of you are advocating to just assume this is likely nothing larger going on.

Be safe.

I agree with this assessment - 1 or 2 guys getting stopped is just random, but this could be part of a larger operation to try to shut these places down. LE isn't stupid, they read these forums and know what's going on. Someone may have mandated a crackdown. As always everybody has to gauge their own level of risk.

And yes Be Safe.