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  1. #3945

    No need to argue

    This forum is all about helping other mongers. I'll give NWMich credit for offering an opinion which (if I may) think his message is we as USA members should treat good providers well and not insult or take advantage of them. Because lowballing a well known, good provider is bad form. I'd agree with that.

    My advice, in the guise of helping others, is to read the reviews and be knowledgeable about what a provider is worth. There are many serviceable, but not great, providers out there with full MSRP listings when they only deserve an average Blue Book offer. So make the offer that is in line with their reviews. It can't be too offensive if they accept your offer.

    Peace.

  2. #3944

    Price is right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    So the fact that I haggle makes me classless? Perhaps to a degree I would agree with the cheap part. It seems that you're expecting a level of class that is a bit beyond this hobby at this level. This isn't Washington DC where were talking about really high-class escorts. 95% of the girls we talked about aren't exactly the picture of class. So I think price is definitely something we should always discuss and try to get the best price we can.
    I've been at this hobby awhile, not longer than a few. But I've seen some where they charge not enough, to ones who are just right, and ones who need head examined!! Let's just say, you don’t always get what you pay for. Some lie about the service they provide. I could list several of them! But the high end escort I've seen I've had better from utr's at half the price! And I never haggle. I just pay them their money, if I think they will get the job done. This site has helped seeing reviews and cutting down on what girls not to waste money on. Every one must choose what they want to spend, and who they want to spend on it. Stay safe. Irish.

  3. #3943
    So a guy is going to "negotiate" a $20 savings. And some feel this is honorable and OK because the girls are second rate. Really.

    I'll let this go now.

  4. #3942
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    Posts: 4409

    Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by PrivateParts  [View Original Post]
    That's an admirable approach, but I don't think negotiations have to be perceived negatively.

    My experience is you can negotiate rates respectfully if the advertised rates are higher than a comparable provider. If you are polite it won't impact the quality of service. She's who she is. Realistically I'm more likely to negotiate with someone that has less than stellar reviews but I would never tell her she's not worth it. Instead I make a polite offer on how much I am willing to spend and thank her and say maybe next time if she won't budge.

    I may overpay when I am determined to get what I want, when I want it. I get deals when opportunistic and can offer the provider a booking when she otherwise would be sitting idle. A great time to do that is on slow afternoons, mornings before hotel checkout, or when I'm within 10 minutes of her incall and get lucky. Hotels, parking, movie theaters all offer discounted rates based on day / time for the same service. So your standard STG providers will too.

    If she gives you a deal with good service you'll repeat for higher price, give a positive review, and increase her client base. If its bad service you'll be glad you didn't pay full price and leave a poor review.
    I'm with PrivatParts and Monger01 on this one.

  5. #3941
    Quote Originally Posted by NWMich  [View Original Post]
    Negotiating is being cheap and is perceived as being cheap. You can rationalize it any way you like, but that's the fact. Haggling is classless.
    So the fact that I haggle makes me classless? Perhaps to a degree I would agree with the cheap part. It seems that you're expecting a level of class that is a bit beyond this hobby at this level. This isn't Washington DC where were talking about really high-class escorts. 95% of the girls we talked about aren't exactly the picture of class. So I think price is definitely something we should always discuss and try to get the best price we can.

  6. #3940

    Casino girl aka annie

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  7. #3939
    Negotiating is being cheap and is perceived as being cheap. You can rationalize it any way you like, but that's the fact. Haggling is classless.

  8. #3938

    Massage

    Speaking of massage, I need to go to Curtisy Massage soon! I need a good quality massage!! Irish.

  9. #3937

    Rate negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChastD1959  [View Original Post]
    I don't negotiate rates. Either I can afford your asking rate, or I can't. I wonder what kind of experience people get after telling a provider she's not worth what she thinks she is.
    That's an admirable approach, but I don't think negotiations have to be perceived negatively.

    My experience is you can negotiate rates respectfully if the advertised rates are higher than a comparable provider. If you are polite it won't impact the quality of service. She's who she is. Realistically I'm more likely to negotiate with someone that has less than stellar reviews but I would never tell her she's not worth it. Instead I make a polite offer on how much I am willing to spend and thank her and say maybe next time if she won't budge.

    I may overpay when I am determined to get what I want, when I want it. I get deals when opportunistic and can offer the provider a booking when she otherwise would be sitting idle. A great time to do that is on slow afternoons, mornings before hotel checkout, or when I'm within 10 minutes of her incall and get lucky. Hotels, parking, movie theaters all offer discounted rates based on day / time for the same service. So your standard STG providers will too.

    If she gives you a deal with good service you'll repeat for higher price, give a positive review, and increase her client base. If its bad service you'll be glad you didn't pay full price and leave a poor review.

  10. #3936

    Massage

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion they are foolishly wasting their money. If you need a massage go to a professional CMT and get your 40 car date on the way home for your extras. That's a massage and BJ for 100.
    If you can get a cmt quality massage and extras at the same place that works better for me.
    Excellent advise! I highly recommend sweet Meagan for the massage and for a little more than a hunski, tip included, good HE. Excellent location also. Enjoy.

  11. #3935
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    Posts: 4409
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    +1 Some guys think nothing of dropping $150 or more at Serenity for a HJ with their massage. What a lady charges is her choice, I bet most of you guys who are in business charge what you think is a fair price for your services. And those of you who work for someone else probably complain you don't make enough money because you CAN'T charge what you think you are worth. Kudos to her or any lady to run their business as they see fit, and not let someone else tell them what they should be doing or should be charging.
    In my opinion they are foolishly wasting their money. If you need a massage go to a professional CMT and get your 40 car date on the way home for your extras. That's a massage and BJ for 100.
    150 for a massage and HJ is a waste of time and money.
    If you can get a cmt quality massage and extras at the same place, that's great.

  12. #3934
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    +1 Some guys think nothing of dropping $150 or more at Serenity for a HJ with their massage. What a lady charges is her choice, I bet most of you guys who are in business charge what you think is a fair price for your services. And those of you who work for someone else probably complain you don't make enough money because you CAN'T charge what you think you are worth. Kudos to her or any lady to run their business as they see fit, and not let someone else tell them what they should be doing or should be charging.
    I don't negotiate rates. Either I can afford your asking rate, or I can't. I wonder what kind of experience people get after telling a provider she's not worth what she thinks she is.

  13. #3933
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  14. #3932

    Casino girl

    She asked not to mention hopkins as its a small town and she wants to be discreet so I dubbed her casino girl since she's only 5 to 10 minutes away.

    She is more than willing to negotiate her price, she originally said 150 was for an hour but somehow it got twisted to 150 hh. So she just left it at that, maybe to weed out the "tire kickers" for 150 she will give you an hr maybe more if you click.

    She may also request high due to special requests.

    I don't feel any GPS vibe from her she did say someone asked for things she said she doesn't do and only offered her 60. I think any of us would be insulted by that also.

    Most of the girls in grand rapids want 160 to 200 for an hour. Imo from when I saw her it was worth the time and service I received. To each his own.

    Of the 3 others that originally seen her, I don't think any of them gave a negative review.

  15. #3931
    Quote Originally Posted by PrivateParts  [View Original Post]
    I don't blame any provider who asks for a high rate at first. In this great capitalist country of ours, a person can run their business however they want. If you don't like it, take your business elsewhere. At least that's how it should work. Things tend to sort themselves out over time that way
    +1 Some guys think nothing of dropping $150 or more at Serenity for a HJ with their massage. What a lady charges is her choice, I bet most of you guys who are in business charge what you think is a fair price for your services. And those of you who work for someone else probably complain you don't make enough money because you CAN'T charge what you think you are worth. Kudos to her or any lady to run their business as they see fit, and not let someone else tell them what they should be doing or should be charging.

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