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**Twister100** · 07-07-20 13:43

Originally Posted by VanDawg [View Original Post]

I am doing the same and found the same, but after the first 3-4 days of spam...

I think I've been favorited by every woman on SA from Venezuela. LOL.

**Twister100** · 07-07-20 13:18

https://www.seeking.com/member/0a25c...2-cadb2a58fb01

Pictures are from this instagram acct.

https://www.instagram.com/itgabl/?hl=en

**Twister100** · 07-07-20 13:17

https://www.seeking.com/member/20e7c...3-2ea386fcd9e5

**VanDawg** · 07-07-20 10:20

Originally Posted by Michael1967 [View Original Post]

I'm in my cycle of getting a bunch of names and numbers from SA and it feels like this time around is the worst. Scammers galore. Hey scammers going to scam and they won't get me, but it pisses me off to spend my energy on someone while they waste my time trying to work a scam that isn't going to happen. In addition to the scammers, there seems to be a large new group of people that want to have an "online" relationship. I'm sure it's some men with a bunch of female pics hoping to catch the desperate people that want to spend their money pretending that their actually talking to a woman. I still got some good prospects, but this time around it's been work.

I am doing the same and found the same, but after the first 3-4 days of spam, I'm getting lots of good prospects.

All of those out of work waitresses.

**TnaPorter** · 07-06-20 05:09

Originally Posted by MyNickname [View Original Post]

I have noticed a new behavior. The SB schedule a meet and then she no shows. Its been happening a lot lately to a point that I am starting to wonder if those are not people hired by SA to give appearance of SA website working so we continue to pay membership.

I actually think this is true, especially with the girls who are online late at night. I think that those ones are basically call center workers in some foreign country and they're paid to have flirtatious conversations. But this does not mean that there aren't real ones -- there are a ton of real ones but there's definitely a lot of crap to wade through. But even with all of that, when I travel for work, I prefer SA women over anything else.

**MyNickname** · 07-06-20 02:45

I have noticed a new behavior. The SB schedule a meet and then she no shows. Its been happening a lot lately to a point that I am starting to wonder if those are not people hired by SA to give appearance of SA website working so we continue to pay membership.

Originally Posted by Michael1967 [View Original Post]

I'm in my cycle of getting a bunch of names and numbers from SA and it feels like this time around is the worst. Scammers galore. Hey scammers going to scam and they won't get me, but it pisses me off to spend my energy on someone while they waste my time trying to work a scam that isn't going to happen. In addition to the scammers, there seems to be a large new group of people that want to have an "online" relationship. I'm sure it's some men with a bunch of female pics hoping to catch the desperate people that want to spend their money pretending that their actually talking to a woman. I still got some good prospects, but this time around it's been work.

**Member #6729** · 07-05-20 23:44

Originally Posted by Michael1967 [View Original Post]

I'm in my cycle of getting a bunch of names and numbers from SA and it feels like this time around is the worst. Scammers galore. Hey scammers going to scam and they won't get me, but it pisses me off to spend my energy on someone while they waste my time trying to work a scam that isn't going to happen. In addition to the scammers, there seems to be a large new group of people that want to have an "online" relationship. I'm sure it's some men with a bunch of female pics hoping to catch the desperate people that want to spend their money pretending that their actually talking to a woman. I still got some good prospects, but this time around it's been work.

That's why I got off again, I was wasting way to much effin time messaging all this time and then they come up with that online bs. I actually have things to do that wasting my time messaging over and over was not worth it. Part of it was me for not being patient but still. I met some but I honestly was not meeting cool normal chicks like the last couple time. I might go back when this "pandemic" is over, so they can stop using it as an excuse. That guy that paid $700 for an overnight ruins it, I was paying $200 for overnights and max will be $300.

**DelToro** · 07-05-20 23:32

Originally Posted by Michael1967 [View Original Post]

I'm in my cycle of getting a bunch of names and numbers from SA and it feels like this time around is the worst. Scammers galore. Hey scammers going to scam and they won't get me, but it pisses me off to spend my energy on someone while they waste my time trying to work a scam that isn't going to happen. In addition to the scammers, there seems to be a large new group of people that want to have an "online" relationship. I'm sure it's some men with a bunch of female pics hoping to catch the desperate people that want to spend their money pretending that their actually talking to a woman. I still got some good prospects, but this time around it's been work.

Covid is giving the perfect excuse not to meet in person right away, so there are many doing the let's do an online arrangement while things improve with the virus and we could meet safely.

Even though it makes sense and some might be doing that legitimately, I am sure with most they would only milk you with the online part. Problem is they pretend they are ok with meeting in person and it's much later in the process when they bring the online only to start part, yeah a huge waste of time. I would post later 2 or 3 of these kind I had encountered.

And as you said many are not even girls, they are just scammers

**Michael1967** · 07-05-20 22:48

Originally Posted by DelToro [View Original Post]

Of course, who the fuck I am to tell people what to do.

It's meant to be a guideline, specially for newbies. If you do not know what you are doing, if you are going to try once and then chicken out, at least try not to fuck things up for the regular players.

Agree with some charm and personality goes a long way just try not to by pass that throwing money. Learn to play the game.

I'm in my cycle of getting a bunch of names and numbers from SA and it feels like this time around is the worst. Scammers galore. Hey scammers going to scam and they won't get me, but it pisses me off to spend my energy on someone while they waste my time trying to work a scam that isn't going to happen. In addition to the scammers, there seems to be a large new group of people that want to have an "online" relationship. I'm sure it's some men with a bunch of female pics hoping to catch the desperate people that want to spend their money pretending that their actually talking to a woman. I still got some good prospects, but this time around it's been work.

**DelToro** · 07-05-20 21:07

Originally Posted by TnaPorter [View Original Post]

While I agree, I don't feel any of us should be telling other men how to spend their money. Like that one Glutenfreecake girl? $700? For that? I mean, my first thought was what the hell was that guy thinking, but maybe they're into that or whatever. I don't know. In my experience, SA is full of girls that don't consider themselves hookers and because of that, they'll take a lot less so long as you treat them like a human being. This one girl I see in Pensacola spends the entire day and night with me when I'm out there with her. I give her $120/ day and just pay for all the activities and entertainment. Sometimes she'll bring her kids along (her kids love me!) but that's fine with me as I actually like kids.

It's definitely a different experience from booking a hooker, but in the end, I think it's a much better one.

Of course, who the fuck I am to tell people what to do.

It's meant to be a guideline, specially for newbies. If you do not know what you are doing, if you are going to try once and then chicken out, at least try not to fuck things up for the regular players.

Agree with some charm and personality goes a long way just try not to by pass that throwing money. Learn to play the game.

**TnaPorter** · 07-05-20 19:26

Originally Posted by DelToro [View Original Post]

For the vast majority of SA girls 300 should be the absolute maximum for a 2-3 hours encounter, if you pay more you are overpaying and making a disservice to the rest of us. We should not let the amounts on SA go out of control as in TNA.

The amounts should fluctuate by age and looks.

I had average looking, mid thirty women demanding 400, no fucking way, no even 300.

While I agree, I don't feel any of us should be telling other men how to spend their money. Like that one Glutenfreecake girl? $700? For that? I mean, my first thought was what the hell was that guy thinking, but maybe they're into that or whatever. I don't know. In my experience, SA is full of girls that don't consider themselves hookers and because of that, they'll take a lot less so long as you treat them like a human being. This one girl I see in Pensacola spends the entire day and night with me when I'm out there with her. I give her $120/ day and just pay for all the activities and entertainment. Sometimes she'll bring her kids along (her kids love me!) but that's fine with me as I actually like kids.

It's definitely a different experience from booking a hooker, but in the end, I think it's a much better one.

**MartyByrde** · 07-05-20 13:54

Originally Posted by MyNickname [View Original Post]

Just FYI, 500 is an overnight. I cannot tell you how many sugar babies first started with crazy numbers like 700 or worse which I obviously declined. Days or even a month later they come back asking if I am still available and that 500 overnight is great. Same goes with bare. Last time that happened she came back asking if we still could do the arrangement and even saying if I was interested to also include her girl friend and sent me a video of her girl friend walking wearing a bikini.

Glad you held to your amount. And 500 is definitely a very good overnight rate. For a 1 hour visit, even with all services (BBBJ, DATY, DATO, and BBFS) provided, $220 is the maximum I'd pay.

**SAmazing** · 07-05-20 12:56

Originally Posted by DelToro [View Original Post]

For the vast majority of SA girls 300 should be the absolute maximum for a 2-3 hours encounter, if you pay more you are overpaying and making a disservice to the rest of us. We should not let the amounts on SA go out of control as in TNA.

The amounts should fluctuate by age and looks.

I had average looking, mid thirty women demanding 400, no fucking way, no even 300.

Thanks for the reminder. I personally don't meet with overweight women, especially in their thirties.

Have you ever noticed that the super young and new women don't understand what they should charge? There are a lot of fit (not enormous) women 19,20 up to late twenties that are willing to meet at 200-300 for a few hours. It's the guys out there paying 500 for a meet and greet that set a standard for the new women. That's when you see the posts that say "I'm worth 500. I've done it before and I am unwilling to negotiate. " If you are smart / good, you can even get them to agree to an overnight for that cheap. I'd say the key is understanding what their needs are, listening and repeating back their issues, and then giving them the fuck of their life. Make it so time doesn't matter. They will feel emotionally connected enough to wave the fee so they can feel special again.

Works with pros, non-pros, hoes, and probably Bros. Just don't push too hard or you'll just have an annoying dependant girlfriend.

**DelToro** · 07-05-20 11:48

Originally Posted by Michael1967 [View Original Post]

She contacted me. She's too fat for more than $300. Well, unless you like fatties, then I can't determine what you'd pay for them.

For the vast majority of SA girls 300 should be the absolute maximum for a 2-3 hours encounter, if you pay more you are overpaying and making a disservice to the rest of us. We should not let the amounts on SA go out of control as in TNA.

The amounts should fluctuate by age and looks.

I had average looking, mid thirty women demanding 400, no fucking way, no even 300.