Non Pro's

[Twister100]

CamCamilla.

https://www.seeking.com/member/700fe...4-8dff03a660d8

This one sent me a favorite. Read the writing style. Plus that same 'About Me' description was written in a profile in another city that was reported by another monger here as fake. I can't remember what city.

Do you recall if the pictures were the same as this girl on TNA?

https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?474339-Camcamilla

Just seems suspicious to have two different people using the same unique name.

[Anonymous420]

Making sure the person your speaking with knows that they're not getting one cent out of you until after you meet and the relationship negotiated is the fastest way to get rid of a lot of scammers, pro SBs, and GPS'ers.

[Twister100]

Good advise guys. Yeah do not share any private identifiable information, face photo, work info and of course use a burner or a text app to communicate.

Actual SBs are mostly not out to get you, but there are a lot of fake profiles from shaky individuals that would intend to squeeze money out of you in any possible form.

A good way to spot fake profiles is to do reverse google image searches on the profile photos, it is usually as easy as to right click into the photo and you would get the option to search on Google

Another one is try to engage on an actual chat, share a made up story and then later ask about it next time you chat, people running scams would have no idea of what you are talking about, as they engage tons of people, plis they would not engage in too much chatting. A true SB would like to chat a bit first to get a sense of you. But be aware that scammers actually like to switch quickly to text, not to be detected by the site, but they would also quickly move to try to get something from you, for you to share photos or for you to send money on cash app or something like that

My best experiences on SA have followed a set of steamy sexy chats, by the time we meet they already know all the dirty things I want to do to them. It saves time, as I rather waste sometime chatting and realizing we are not a fit than realizing we are not a fit in person

My experience was that any of the SB's that wanted to chat via Snap were scammers or looking to selling access to their premium snap, same with kik.

The other telling point and I think this has been mentioned before is that the scammers will agree to just about anything so if it seems TGTBT, it's always is a scam.

One thing to check is see where their area code is. Granted this is a little more tricky with how cell numbers work these days but if she says she spent her whole life living in Washington but she has a Miami area code, you have to wonder.

Another check is to ask detail questions. She says she's attending college, what subject are you studying, what classes are you taking. Most scammers only have superficial knowledge about whatever they are bs'ing about or they give answers that aren't logical. They say they are attending UW but their description of college life is more like the college experience in Europe or based on what they saw in a movie.

Finally if you're sharing pictures, ask them to send you a non-nude picture of them doing something weird like the live long and prosper gesture from Star Trek. Most scammers are using stolen pictures so they probably can't produce a picture of whatever weird thing you come up with. Just don't ask for easy stuff like sticking out your tongue or doing the peace gesture.

[DelToro]

Good advise guys. Yeah do not share any private identifiable information, face photo, work info and of course use a burner or a text app to communicate.

Actual SBs are mostly not out to get you, but there are a lot of fake profiles from shaky individuals that would intend to squeeze money out of you in any possible form.

A good way to spot fake profiles is to do reverse google image searches on the profile photos, it is usually as easy as to right click into the photo and you would get the option to search on Google

Another one is try to engage on an actual chat, share a made up story and then later ask about it next time you chat, people running scams would have no idea of what you are talking about, as they engage tons of people, plis they would not engage in too much chatting. A true SB would like to chat a bit first to get a sense of you. But be aware that scammers actually like to switch quickly to text, not to be detected by the site, but they would also quickly move to try to get something from you, for you to share photos or for you to send money on cash app or something like that

My best experiences on SA have followed a set of steamy sexy chats, by the time we meet they already know all the dirty things I want to do to them. It saves time, as I rather waste sometime chatting and realizing we are not a fit than realizing we are not a fit in person

[MyNickname]

Use a photo in your private profile section and share it only with those you want. Be careful as to don't show your face because there are blackmailers that will take the photo and put it on a website including your phone number and the name you gave "to the woman" you were trying to do an arrangement with. The blackmail part comes later when you get a text message telling you that you can have them take down your photo and information from that website (usually something like rapistonline or something like that) if you pay them some money in another website that is supposed to provide online presence clean up services. Obviously they will keep posting your information and requesting you to keep paying to take it down regularly. So, don't ever pay them because they will take it down for a while and then blackmail you again.

I have found useless (maybe scam or people trying to do some study research) those profiles that start or end with " _ " or "00". Be mindful to have already a life story (not your actual real life story) to tell them. Right now there is a bunch of women asking a lot of questions (not even trying to talk arrangement) and I think they are just doing social engineering / data mining for unknown reasons.

If you get to the point of letting the woman know the allowance per meet you are willing to agree on then try to see her as soon as possible. This way you either strike gold (what you wanted) or you find out if she is not for real. Also, I see the trend that women in SA will say they agree on an allowance per meet but then will set the first meet a week or two after the conversation they are agreeing on the allowance. In my experience when this happens 99% of the times leads to never hear from them again, they only use your offer as negotiating power to get another gentleman at higher allowance than your offer and if they don't get that higher allowance gentleman then they will see you after those 1 or 2 weeks at the agreed allowance. What I do when they try to set the meeting 1 or 2 weeks into future is to tell them that I am withdrawing my allowance offer and we can talk/ renegotiate again in 1 or 2 weeks if both of us have not met any one before that. That makes them give a serious consideration to losing a for sure right now offer and don't let them use my offer against me so they can take the time to find a better offer than mine.

I wonder if all these advice posts can be made into a permanent post that does not get lost rolling down the posting threads through time.

Please share your experience and wisdom! Thanks.

[Muncher7000]

I should have posted this earlier.

So I got the premium account mid March and by mid April I was done with the site.

Before I signed up for premium I use to get a dozen views with 1 or 2 likes a week. The first week was good. Ended up talking to 3 GPS gals which didn't come out until I asked to meet. One said she could talk and give me her full attention if I paid up front https://www.seeking.com/member/b0102...d-7499bf29d4c9 . Another wanted to know my net worth before we met (she is gone already). Supposedly she had been seeing a married MS executive. The last one I have her digits but haven't call yet. Little mexican gal in Tacoma https://www.seeking.com/member/c088d...c-964479c79fdf .

So now nobody views me, haven't gotten one like. This is after I messaged at least 30 gals. Before the premium expired I went and looked to see how many actually read the message. A whopping 48% never even opened up the message and this is after a few days of when they were online.

I didn't message anyone under 28 years old and even messaged some in there late forties. If you look almost all of the hoes on there have a 60 year old cap which sucks for me. The good news is all the phucking cunts that don't live here are no longer a problem.

The advice that SaladHermit gave was spot on. I would add that if they don't have a face picture I would pass. Most of them hardly responded and if they do they tend to be chatty with little substance. If they show a lot of skin then be more up front, not nasty you young boneheads, but less beating around the Bush about what you want them to do.

Bottom line when you get old (over 60) you just have to pay a pro more to get something without wrinkles.

Good hunting all.

Peace out!

[Anonymous420]

I am usually the opposite. I actually go out of my way to find SA profies for providers. I have had great luck so far knowing that they are pros (but they have no clue you know) . I usually get a better menu at a cheaper rate. Than their advertised TNA rates. For one or two I bullt up a rappot for the lower rate before letting them know that I am also on TNA and we share reviews and vouches for each other. For most of them though. I just do them and move on knowing I just got a better date at a lower price. I have noticed that most pros approach SA differently as well. They feel they are talking to "civilians" and tend to behave better than they would while speaking on some hobbyist on TNA. It is a win win in my book.

I agree, and I will meet with a pro or two while I'm looking for a regular to keep in shape. The main thing I was trying to get across is that I've been much happier and more satisfied with non-pros, and that it's worth it to put in the time to find a non-pro.

[Morgan Creamin]

Also, be clear on your own terms and what you're looking for. A lot of SBs are looking for a regular allowance. If that's your thing, OK. But I, and I think most of us on here, prefer PPM arrangements which frees up our resources to sample the wares of other girls. I've had some good experiences with younger girls but the percentage is definitely lower than more mature women. Look at the classic examples of Emily and Sarcasticfungirl as to the difference.

Get ready to sift through a lot of BS. Here's a few tips for sorting through profiles and determining how likely they are to be worth your time.

If she even mentions photos, online, or platonic in her profile move on. Even if she also says she might be open to meeting, she is 99.99% not interested in meeting.

Don't bother with accounts that are only a day or two old. They are often scammers / catfish and will likely be removed soon.

If she is super hot and / or has professional or touched up photos she is likely either a pro or a scammer.

If she initiates contact with you and sends you her number in the first message she is probably a pro.

The younger she is the more likely she is to be a fake / scammer, or looking to sell pics, or will stop responding or no show on meeting. You can find a great SB in the 18-22 range, but you'll spend a lot of time on time wasters before meeting one.

Conversely, women over 30 tend to be very responsive, and very likely to meet up.

I have actually had a great time with one woman that was a stripper, but generally I would avoid them. The almost always want to be paid for a meet and greet and have GPS..

[SaladHermit]

Please share your experience and wisdom! Thanks.

Get ready to sift through a lot of BS. Here's a few tips for sorting through profiles and determining how likely they are to be worth your time.

If she even mentions photos, online, or platonic in her profile move on. Even if she also says she might be open to meeting, she is 99.99% not interested in meeting.

Don't bother with accounts that are only a day or two old. They are often scammers / catfish and will likely be removed soon.

If she is super hot and / or has professional or touched up photos she is likely either a pro or a scammer.

If she initiates contact with you and sends you her number in the first message she is probably a pro.

The younger she is the more likely she is to be a fake / scammer, or looking to sell pics, or will stop responding or no show on meeting. You can find a great SB in the 18-22 range, but you'll spend a lot of time on time wasters before meeting one.

Conversely, women over 30 tend to be very responsive, and very likely to meet up.

I have actually had a great time with one woman that was a stripper, but generally I would avoid them. The almost always want to be paid for a meet and greet and have GPS.

Anyone who describes themselves as a model is going to have GPS.

Wanting to meet up right away without having a meet and greet or having messaged back and forth a bit is a red flag. Sometimes there are great girls who do this, but many of them are disappointing, shady, or pros.

If she right off the bat tells you a big sob story or mentions how she is going through some sort of crisis at the moment, that's another red flag. I've met a few legit girls who have said things like this before meeting, but very often if she says something like how she is going to be evicted soon she is about to try and scam you.

[LetsGoBB]

https://www.seeking.com/member/ae2c3...c-38a58f536211

Any thoughts? She's been on SA since 2015.

[RichHead]

How do you get a SA premium pass?

Thank you.

Just to try for a month, I set up 89.99 a month recurring and canceled recurring charge immediately.

[DrtyHarry]

Nothing is "by the hour. " If they starting talking about hourly rates, they're a pro and you should bail. Just ask about meeting up. I usually suggest a bar or coffee shop, with my place as an option if they prefer to be discrete. Either way, once you're face to face, after initial small talk, it's usually good to get the particulars out of the way. Don't be shy about what you want. It's why you're both there, 'cause you already know what she wants, just not how much.

Don't send money, don't pay for a meet and greet (but do pick up the tab). If you do either of those things you'll likely be scammed, and you're for sure working with a pro.

It will take a while, but it is worth it to spend the time to filter out the pros.

I am usually the opposite. I actually go out of my way to find SA profies for providers. I have had great luck so far knowing that they are pros (but they have no clue you know) . I usually get a better menu at a cheaper rate. Than their advertised TNA rates. For one or two I bullt up a rappot for the lower rate before letting them know that I am also on TNA and we share reviews and vouches for each other. For most of them though. I just do them and move on knowing I just got a better date at a lower price. I have noticed that most pros approach SA differently as well. They feel they are talking to "civilians" and tend to behave better than they would while speaking on some hobbyist on TNA. It is a win win in my book.

[Twister100]

Nothing is "by the hour. " If they starting talking about hourly rates, they're a pro and you should bail. Just ask about meeting up. I usually suggest a bar or coffee shop, with my place as an option if they prefer to be discrete. Either way, once you're face to face, after initial small talk, it's usually good to get the particulars out of the way. Don't be shy about what you want. It's why you're both there, 'cause you already know what she wants, just not how much.

Don't send money, don't pay for a meet and greet (but do pick up the tab). If you do either of those things you'll likely be scammed, and you're for sure working with a pro.

It will take a while, but it is worth it to spend the time to filter out the pros.

I would generally avoid hosting at your home till you've built up a good level of trust. Ditto with sharing any personal information.

[NewHere27]

Has any one met her and what was the experience?

https://www.seeking.com/member/63fdb...6-b87e07afd6e0

[Anonymous420]

So, this morning, for having a vouch for one of the TNA members in March and for her to post an ad with one stolen pic from the other provider TODAY in May, one of the yappers gave me a negative red jelly bean. Sick of this providers run this shit and hobbyists must leave a stellar review for sub par service.

I just got a premium pass on SA. I am thinking of going for SA route for a while till TNA gets somewhat revamped (if it ever does).

First one I wanted to see was positivevibeschick. Her review on here was decent (I saw the review on her on here few weeks ago) minus clingyness but I can deal with that.

Started talking to her just now and just casual convo but since being new on SA idk how to move on to actual meeting. I mean I would think it ain't no TNA so I can say hey lets meet up at 6 pm for an hr session like that but how do I smoothly switch to suggesting to meet?

It's also a little different than dating because if I took that approach, I'd probably be talking to her for weeks before I can set something up.

Please share your experience and wisdom! Thanks.

Nothing is "by the hour. " If they starting talking about hourly rates, they're a pro and you should bail. Just ask about meeting up. I usually suggest a bar or coffee shop, with my place as an option if they prefer to be discrete. Either way, once you're face to face, after initial small talk, it's usually good to get the particulars out of the way. Don't be shy about what you want. It's why you're both there, 'cause you already know what she wants, just not how much.

Don't send money, don't pay for a meet and greet (but do pick up the tab). If you do either of those things you'll likely be scammed, and you're for sure working with a pro.

It will take a while, but it is worth it to spend the time to filter out the pros.