Rants and Stupid shit in Hartford

**Troutman** · 05-29-20 05:50

Originally Posted by Garthy [View Original Post]

Where did the 6 feet rule come from? There is NO science in it. It's speculation. And, if you have been to Shop Rite or Stop & Shop lately, watch what the families in there are doing. Watch what they are touching, especially in the produce section (and, frankly, everywhere).

I'm not an "it's just a flu" person. But this is not ebola either. If you are old and sick, this can mess you up. If you're younger or pretty healthy; not likely. But you may share it with someone who is sick.

Most of the precautions we are taking are sensible, but they are not scientific nor are they based in any solid evidence. Overall, the time and exposure we have in stores and in supermarkets make these places high risk. At least an AMP you can get a shower and they likely wash the surfaces. BUT, honestly, we are not at the point where this is going to go away. We don't have a vaccine. Exposure and, in time, human immunity (partial or complete) is going to have to happen.

As a doctor, I am going to keep this as simple as I can for you, since you seem to be prone to making decisions based on desire rather than fact. Covid-19 is most easily passed through moisture. What is most prevalent at a massage parlor? Moisture. It also doesn't matter what age you are, you can catch it and die, or you can bring it to someone and they can die.

**BWtor** · 05-29-20 04:38

I have to agree here. I get nervous especially trying out a new place, but with Covid scare it will get the pigs to go into an establishment for "health and safety" compliance and look for a license while they are in there, I for one will go on a limb on my usual place. But it might be a while before I go exploring.

Originally Posted by WolfmanJack [View Original Post]

Does anyone else think this may be the final nail in the coffin, as least for the near future, in regards to AMPs? How long is it going to be before the State Thugs go into every known AMP looking for a certificate on the wall saying they comply with the mask, glove, sanitizer mandates? I for one will be very nervous once everything goes back to normal being in one and possibly being a part of their "inspections / intrusions" to see if they paid the state. I'm sure they'll also use that as an excuse to look for the massage licenses.

I don't go often, but a lot of you do, thoughts?

**Garthy** · 05-28-20 21:21

Originally Posted by MrMike1952 [View Original Post]

Garthy,

I've always found you to be a thoughtful and informative contributor. But to say the risk is the same as a supermarket is not reasonable. Yes, it is not always possible to maintain 6 feet of separation in the supermarket, and six feet is no guarantee. But the exposure is brief and therefore much lower risk. Any massage parlor visit involves prolonged close contact with someone who is also in prolonged close contact with numerous other people. The odds of transmission are much higher, even if she takes sanitary precautions. Whether she does or not is obviously up for debate.

Yes, we have always run the risks of STDs, but we knew what protections to take. There is a lot of question about how to protect yourself from this.

And the big difference is who you put at risk. With STDs, its just your sexual partners. Now, the biggest risk is to your older relatives: your parents, whatever older people there are in your life you care about.

Where did the 6 feet rule come from? There is NO science in it. It's speculation. And, if you have been to Shop Rite or Stop & Shop lately, watch what the families in there are doing. Watch what they are touching, especially in the produce section (and, frankly, everywhere).

I'm not an "it's just a flu" person. But this is not ebola either. If you are old and sick, this can mess you up. If you're younger or pretty healthy; not likely. But you may share it with someone who is sick.

Most of the precautions we are taking are sensible, but they are not scientific nor are they based in any solid evidence. Overall, the time and exposure we have in stores and in supermarkets make these places high risk. At least an AMP you can get a shower and they likely wash the surfaces. BUT, honestly, we are not at the point where this is going to go away. We don't have a vaccine. Exposure and, in time, human immunity (partial or complete) is going to have to happen.

**Mr Mike1952** · 05-28-20 16:00

Originally Posted by Garthy [View Original Post]

OMG. What the heck is going with this line of reasoning? The hobby has never been risk-free with regard to public or personal health. That being said, there is a difference between nasty and not sterile.

But if COVID's going to get you, it will get you in the supermarket as easily as the AMP. But if you've been sticking you cock or your tongue or your fingers or your toes in working women for years and years, I think you can still rest easily at night after you get your rocks off at the AMP in the days of SARS-COV-2.

Whether they ever open again or not, I dunno. I am hopeful that they will as salons are on the front end of the phased openings. But then again, I have always had to travel for a good AMP.

Garthy,

I've always found you to be a thoughtful and informative contributor. But to say the risk is the same as a supermarket is not reasonable. Yes, it is not always possible to maintain 6 feet of separation in the supermarket, and six feet is no guarantee. But the exposure is brief and therefore much lower risk. Any massage parlor visit involves prolonged close contact with someone who is also in prolonged close contact with numerous other people. The odds of transmission are much higher, even if she takes sanitary precautions. Whether she does or not is obviously up for debate.

Yes, we have always run the risks of STDs, but we knew what protections to take. There is a lot of question about how to protect yourself from this.

And the big difference is who you put at risk. With STDs, its just your sexual partners. Now, the biggest risk is to your older relatives: your parents, whatever older people there are in your life you care about.

**Garthy** · 05-22-20 22:21

Originally Posted by Troutman [View Original Post]

We're asking how clean the AMPs will be when they reopen? The answer is simple. These are the same places that would turn the towel on the table over for the next customer, rather than be bothered to replace it with a fresh one. How clean do you think they'll be?

OMG. What the heck is going with this line of reasoning? The hobby has never been risk-free with regard to public or personal health. That being said, there is a difference between nasty and not sterile.

But if COVID's going to get you, it will get you in the supermarket as easily as the AMP. But if you've been sticking you cock or your tongue or your fingers or your toes in working women for years and years, I think you can still rest easily at night after you get your rocks off at the AMP in the days of SARS-COV-2.

Whether they ever open again or not, I dunno. I am hopeful that they will as salons are on the front end of the phased openings. But then again, I have always had to travel for a good AMP.

**AssMan4412** · 05-22-20 20:15

Originally Posted by Woody50 [View Original Post]

I'd worry as much about the dude before you than surfaces.

Said dude is one of the "nobody can tell me what to do" a-holes who has been everywhere without a mask or distance. He's carrying COVID but not symptomatic. He just spent an hour in a closed room with your provider, who is now also an asymptomatic carrier.

You are now exposed. Will you be the same and only infect others? Will you get hit but recover? Will you get intubated and either die or never fully recover? Or some combo of the three?

Good luck!

LOL nothing like a little over the top drama don't you think. Obviously your not current on recent data and statistics nor aware on the fanatical cleanliness of the Asians. Keep believing the MSM hype and lies and live in your fears.

**Woody50** · 05-22-20 19:55

Originally Posted by Troutman [View Original Post]

We're asking how clean the AMPs will be when they reopen? The answer is simple. These are the same places that would turn the towel on the table over for the next customer, rather than be bothered to replace it with a fresh one. How clean do you think they'll be?

I'd worry as much about the dude before you than surfaces.

Said dude is one of the "nobody can tell me what to do" a-holes who has been everywhere without a mask or distance. He's carrying COVID but not symptomatic. He just spent an hour in a closed room with your provider, who is now also an asymptomatic carrier.

You are now exposed. Will you be the same and only infect others? Will you get hit but recover? Will you get intubated and either die or never fully recover? Or some combo of the three?

Good luck!

**Troutman** · 05-22-20 16:00

We're asking how clean the AMPs will be when they reopen? The answer is simple. These are the same places that would turn the towel on the table over for the next customer, rather than be bothered to replace it with a fresh one. How clean do you think they'll be?

**Boy Wonder 9** · 05-10-20 21:36

I'm looking for a short stay room in the Enfield area. I'll pay for a day and maybe use it twice then. Places I called say they won't let you stay unless you are an essential worker. So how do the girls get rooms? Any advice on where I should check and how I should ask them?

Thanks.