The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

**ChuckTheFin** · 05-21-20 00:52

Well maybe she's raising her PPM because she hasn't liked how some meets have gone. . . Or she's seeing her value go up. . . She hasn't raised it on me. . . But frankly if you trest her right and don't great her like an object then 400 would be well worth it IMO having seen her. . . Maybe she just likes me because I took the time to talk and chill and get to know her before jumping to the sheets. . .

YMMV depending on your approach and vibe.

Originally Posted by SneakyMan [View Original Post]

She starts at like 4 or 5. If you want to pay that and not be a cheap-ass, feel free

**Raltime** · 05-20-20 22:29

I am planning a meeting with RDU Liz this week. Let me know if you want to join. She is a SB, so not low baller or etc. Message me. If you know her, then this is a great deal.

**SneakyMan** · 05-20-20 10:09

Originally Posted by ChuckTheFin [View Original Post]

Or maybe people need nonstop being cheap asses?

Guys want a girl to give her body for half price and then ***** about the quality they get in return.

There are plenty of methed out girls that you can hump and dump for $60-100 over on the escorts page. SD / SB is totally different.

When a girl spends 3+ hours with me and we go 2-3 rounds and the entire experience is more girlfriend like than escort. . . Its well worth $3-400.

Its attitides like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

She starts at like 4 or 5. If you want to pay that and not be a cheap-ass, feel free!

**ChuckTheFin** · 05-20-20 09:44

Because if you haven't maybe you shouldn't assume?

I normally don't want tonpost details but I've seen her twice and she is a super sweet young lady and has spent no less than 3 hours with me each time where we talked, made out and moved to the fun in a natural way. . . Not just a get naked and climb on the bed. . . Recovered, had some food and wine. . . Then on to round two. . . Hung out a bit afterwards before leaving. . . And then have texted and talked between meetings with flirty texts and just saying hi. . .

To me, $300 is a frigging steal for that kind of true GF experience. . . Even if I do have to share her because I don't have the time to see her weekly or more.

Most of these women are not looking to feel like an escort even though everyone knows the deal. . . But when you treat them that way. . . You get what you expect. . . Someone that wants to get it over with asap and get out of there.

Originally Posted by VincentCor74 [View Original Post]

I was commenting on THAT particular young lady. I'm sure she appreciates the money.

**VincentCor74** · 05-20-20 08:55

Originally Posted by ChuckTheFin [View Original Post]

Or maybe people need nonstop being cheap asses?

Guys want a girl to give her body for half price and then ***** about the quality they get in return.

There are plenty of methed out girls that you can hump and dump for $60-100 over on the escorts page. SD / SB is totally different.

When a girl spends 3+ hours with me and we go 2-3 rounds and the entire experience is more girlfriend like than escort. . . Its well worth $3-400.

Its attitides like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

I was commenting on THAT particular young lady. I'm sure she appreciates the money.

**ChuckTheFin** · 05-20-20 08:40

I've only had one experience like that so far and won't repeat. . . Discuss that stuff up front and make sure you are getting the ROI for your money. Tell them flat out how long you want them to stay and if they pull the smash and dash, refuse to give them the full agreed amount.

Hint: If they want the money as soon as you meet, you are probably in for that exact experience. Now some do ask up front because they have been ripped off. Offer half then and show them the other half and put it away so if they do bolt after 30 or 60 you aren't screwed.

Weeding out the cash grabbers is tough but damn well worth it once you find your gem (s).

Originally Posted by Pubb69 [View Original Post]

Your correct in what you say, the problem is they don't work any different than escorts. Most stay less than a hour.

**ChuckTheFin** · 05-20-20 08:31

Now here's someone that gets it!

I've had similar experiences though not as long term because I'm newer to this game. I won't put their names up here because randoms have ruined situations for me in the past by contacting them and tossing my name out.

You have to figure out who the pros are on the SD sites and who aren't. I always make sure to discuss details, as respectfully as possible, so I'm getting a ROI that makes sense initially.

For instance: One woman drives from Wilmington to see me. Stays at least 4-5 hours and drives home for $500. See her every couple of weeks and its an amazing time. I thought we were done because she wanted a full amount to come up and not fool around. . . But I refused. . . She came back and we are now talking a monthly so she can come up more and it will be significantly less for me on a per-visit basis.

Maybe I'm just luckier than others to have no problem affording that and still looking for others. . . But the sugar Bowl isn't for everyone. One of the biggest complaints I hear is women getting low balled by people that really shouldn't be in this game. Just go look up what the average SB receives in other places to see how cheap $500 for someone to spend 4-5 hours truly is.

Originally Posted by Gibbs70 [View Original Post]

There are enough just looking for a pump and dump, but enough who play the sugar game for a better bread. However, we have to control the prices, but can't when newbies start throwing cash without understanding the local market. An A girl can demand a ton, but if we control it across the market and they need it, it can be had. Just clean up your approach, take it a little slower, work it like a business negotiation and treat them with a little respect. I just finished a two year stint with a UNC knock out (moving out of state for grad school). 1 K a month had two visits a week, and after 6 months, she was staying the night those two times per week (and staying a third on many occasions). The real sugar comes in after trust is built and you start taking vacations together. Trust me, it's not that hard.

Stay safe and use the big head.

Gibbs.

**Svt4628** · 05-20-20 08:27

Originally Posted by AzBadger7 [View Original Post]

Not sure about this one. Won't send any additional pics and pretty upfront that she'll only do oral first time. Wants 300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1e142...6-938e19fc81f0

She will drop her $ amount and said mutual oral is good for first date. I've been tempted but been too busy to break free to try it out.

**Kirron** · 05-19-20 20:12

Originally Posted by AzBadger7 [View Original Post]

Not sure about this one. Won't send any additional pics and pretty upfront that she'll only do oral first time. Wants 300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1e142...6-938e19fc81f0

Her WYP profile has more photos - https://members.whatsyourprice.com/p...dmq9P5aN8GQ3Z1.

**Gibbs70** · 05-19-20 19:44

There are enough just looking for a pump and dump, but enough who play the sugar game for a better bread. However, we have to control the prices, but can't when newbies start throwing cash without understanding the local market. An A girl can demand a ton, but if we control it across the market and they need it, it can be had. Just clean up your approach, take it a little slower, work it like a business negotiation and treat them with a little respect. I just finished a two year stint with a UNC knock out (moving out of state for grad school). 1 K a month had two visits a week, and after 6 months, she was staying the night those two times per week (and staying a third on many occasions). The real sugar comes in after trust is built and you start taking vacations together. Trust me, it's not that hard.

Stay safe and use the big head.

Gibbs.

Originally Posted by ChuckTheFin [View Original Post]

Or maybe people need nonstop being cheap asses?

Guys want a girl to give her body for half price and then ***** about the quality they get in return.

There are plenty of methed out girls that you can hump and dump for $60-100 over on the escorts page. SD / SB is totally different.

When a girl spends 3+ hours with me and we go 2-3 rounds and the entire experience is more girlfriend like than escort. . . Its well worth $3-400.

Its attitides like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

**AzBadger7** · 05-19-20 19:22

Not sure about this one. Won't send any additional pics and pretty upfront that she'll only do oral first time. Wants 300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1e142...6-938e19fc81f0

**Pubb69** · 05-19-20 18:15

Originally Posted by ChuckTheFin [View Original Post]

Or maybe people need nonstop being cheap asses?

Guys want a girl to give her body for half price and then ***** about the quality they get in return.

There are plenty of methed out girls that you can hump and dump for $60-100 over on the escorts page. SD / SB is totally different.

When a girl spends 3+ hours with me and we go 2-3 rounds and the entire experience is more girlfriend like than escort. . . Its well worth $3-400.

Its attitides like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

Your correct in what you say, the problem is they don't work any different than escorts. Most stay less than a hour.

**Pubb69** · 05-19-20 18:12

Originally Posted by SmallAsianCock [View Original Post]

She wants $850 for nudes. My response, that is too low. I offer $5000.00 for nudes even though I can find the for free on Pornhub.

I offer $10000, can't believe she only wants $850.

**Svt4628** · 05-19-20 16:22

Originally Posted by Gibbs70 [View Original Post]

I have been chatting with her for a few days and she is not budging from $500 per meet. I certainly hope no one is paying that in the Raleigh area.

Stay safe,

Gibbs.

She gave me a speech about trying to lowball her. She's cute with a nice body but not an attitude to match. Plenty of other who are friendly and willing to take less.

**Gibbs70** · 05-19-20 16:09

I have been chatting with her for a few days and she is not budging from $500 per meet. I certainly hope no one is paying that in the Raleigh area.

Stay safe,

Gibbs.

Originally Posted by SmallAsianCock [View Original Post]

Anyone has any info on Cassie. She is willing to meet ASAP.

https://www.seeking.com/member/141ad...4-c60ea62cc40a