Rants and Raves

[Aaron Hamlet]

You are nothing if not eloquent Do you only know the one adjective?

You're over 70. Have a heart condition. You're part of the 99% of all who contract China Virus something bad happens to and you want the remaining 1% to lockdown quarantine for your benefit.

Fuck you, you selfish, greasy, fear mongering prick of an old man. Do you find that a better, more eloquent adjective usage?

[Mike454]

Everyone who says we the shut down is not necessary and that we should go back to business as usual, or with just a handful of cautions, is saying that the medical experts' warnings on the seriousness of this virus is a hoax.

You can't have it both ways. You don't believe a single person will die from lack of food and shelter. You don't believe that Fauci and Brix and Gates are providing false data. You don't believe that many people are dying from lack of proper medical treatment because. CNN.

Screaming about your need to go bowling or have your nails done or get a beer in a bar or crowd a Target or McDonald's is the same as calling this pandemic a hoax. How many seniors and children are you willing to kill so you can open the economy again? If you say opening back up isn't going to finally overwhelm our health care system, kill countless people and send us back inside for an even worse second shutdown, you're saying this is a hoax.

Which side of your mouth were you typing out of when you made that last post?

It won't overwhelm the healthcare system.

If you don't believe "all the experts" could be off exponentially in their predictions.

Then, well I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

But life has to go on, the virus will be here or it won't,but we just can't hide in our homes forever.

So far it hasn't been enough to just flatten the curve.

If you go back and watch, it's never enough.

[Mike454]

I'm all for a person doing what they will. Except when you potentially harm others. This virus is real as hell. I've lost an aunt, a friend in his 50's and 2 neighbors since March. This is not imaginary. Being selfish is un American. Now you lurk, jerk and twerk til your heart's content, but catching and spreading the Rona is a real risk. Not to be hard hearted, but if you choose to assume the risk, keep it in the crowd that thinks this is concocted for political purposes. I'll keep my distance.

Stevie wonder can see what all the blue state govs, Nancy and her crew, and most all the cdc nih people ie gov bureaucracy, are doing.

No. The virus wasn't concocted for political purposes, but if you don't think they are taking advantage of it, for political purposes then they are blind.

[Bullett64]

...the fucking WHO... lthe fucking deadly bat virus...
Fucking experts ...

You are nothing if not eloquent Do you only know the one adjective?

[CoochieMac]

No one here is saying it is a hoax, no one. What is being said is the overreaction is totally uncalled for and Un-American. Too many people may die from lack of proper medical treatment because they have been scared by the false reporting and are now afraid to go to an emergency room when they need to. If we end up back in a full blown depression, people will die from lack of food and shelter. Let's find an answer somewhere in the middle.

I'm all for a person doing what they will. Except when you potentially harm others. This virus is real as hell. I've lost an aunt, a friend in his 50's and 2 neighbors since March. This is not imaginary. Being selfish is un American. Now you lurk, jerk and twerk til your heart's content, but catching and spreading the Rona is a real risk. Not to be hard hearted, but if you choose to assume the risk, keep it in the crowd that thinks this is concocted for political purposes. I'll keep my distance.

[Worf359]

I'm very impressed by how smart this virus is. It won't infect you at a liquid store, Lowes or Home Depot. Wal-Mart, Target, Costco, Sam's Club or Whole foods. It does seek you out in church, nail & Hair salons. Bowling alleys any restaurant other than Waffle House and any mall. I'm not sure we are going to be able to outsmart such a clever virus.

[LuvThemTugs]

Forsyth County COVID-19, deaths 11.

Age Sex Underlying medical condition.

59 Male Unknown.

60 Male Unknown.

69 Female No.

71 Male Unknown.

71 Female Yes.

73 Male Unknown.

74 Female Unknown.

81 Female Unknown.

83 Male Unknown.

85 Male Yes.

87 Male Unknown.

I like my odd.

[Busy Lurker]

No one here is saying it is a hoax, no one. What is being said is the overreaction is totally uncalled for and Un-American. Too many people may die from lack of proper medical treatment because they have been scared by the false reporting and are now afraid to go to an emergency room when they need to. If we end up back in a full blown depression, people will die from lack of food and shelter. Let's find an answer somewhere in the middle.

Everyone who says we the shut down is not necessary and that we should go back to business as usual, or with just a handful of cautions, is saying that the medical experts' warnings on the seriousness of this virus is a hoax.

You can't have it both ways. You don't believe a single person will die from lack of food and shelter. You don't believe that Fauci and Brix and Gates are providing false data. You don't believe that many people are dying from lack of proper medical treatment because. CNN.

Screaming about your need to go bowling or have your nails done or get a beer in a bar or crowd a Target or McDonald's is the same as calling this pandemic a hoax. How many seniors and children are you willing to kill so you can open the economy again? If you say opening back up isn't going to finally overwhelm our health care system, kill countless people and send us back inside for an even worse second shutdown, you're saying this is a hoax.

Which side of your mouth were you typing out of when you made that last post?

[Sgt Lurker]

Since COVID-19 is a hoax and it's safe to go out, let's agree that those who want to go back to work, school, church, play, etc. Can do so. However, when they get sick, they have to self-treat. You don't get access to our emergency rooms, you don't get our medicines, you don't get to infect our doctors and nurses, you don't get a ventilator and you damn sure don't get it all for free at Grady.

Since it's all a hoax anyway,

No one here is saying it is a hoax, no one. What is being said is the overreaction is totally uncalled for and Un-American. Too many people may die from lack of proper medical treatment because they have been scared by the false reporting and are now afraid to go to an emergency room when they need to. If we end up back in a full blown depression, people will die from lack of food and shelter. Let's find an answer somewhere in the middle.

[HobbyMan51]

Pretty much hit it on the head. It's a virus and sooner or later your catching it, no if ands or buts. This isn't even thinning the herd any. I'm 68 and never seen this country shut down for anything before.

The difference is, John, that the group thinkers have been very successful with their propaganda and outright lies that the virus is a death sentence for EVERYBODY, young, old, weak, strong, health-compromised or healthy as a horse. The mortality rate for the virus is 100%, or at least it is according to their poisonous innuendos. The fact that it is quite the opposite, that at least 98% who test positive will actually LIVE, but they don't want anyone to believe that, even though it is true, because it suits their agenda of control and manipulation. Yes, a very high percentage of the elderly with pre-existing health conditions or other comorbidities will die if they come down with it, and that is certainly bad enough, but the group thinkers will have none of that. Every body die, according to them, and because too many weak-minded people believe their lies then you have this unprecedented situation where your country is withering away before your eyes. The group thinkers allow no other thought other than their own demand of societal suffocation. It's not their way or the highway, theirs IS the highway and you had damn well stay on their highway or else they will savage you into compliance. The idea that we could have protected the most vulnerable AND kept a stable economy is completely lost on them. I'll leave it up to you to figure out why. As for me, I have had enough of fighting their madness for the time being. But, tomorrow is another day.

[Jims2321]

In my opinion, the best course of action is to open up everything and let nature take its course and yes that does include me. I feel confident that it won't affect me but if it does, so be it. A vast majority of people will be unaffected by this virus health wise. I think just about all of us have felt it financially. Some more than others. A person can't live their life in fear or else what's the point of living? I've heard celebrity after celebrity contracting the virus with little to no affects. Data from California has shown that the actual cases in the US of people who have contracted the virus is at least 8 times more than the people who have been tested and confirmed for having the virus. The actual death rate is far lower than what is being pushed out in the media. There are so many ways to die. What is the old saying? A hundred million ways to die. Assaults, car accidents, stroke, heart attack, cancer, fall of a roof, another virus, etc. People die every day in a variety of ways. This virus does not scare me, personally. You can't fight fate. People believe they can but they would be wrong. That's why it's called fate. What does scare me is our current economic situation. Congress are talking now about a $3 trillion relief package. If that happens, that's $5 trillion spent by the federal government in less than 60 days. Damn!! Current deficit of more than $24 trillion. When does it end? Money doesn't grow on trees.

And since January, what's happened to the flu? All of a sudden, it just disappeared. Strange. As a nation, we have two choices. Keep it closed, which affects just about everyone negatively or open it up, which would affect a small amount of people negatively. If your argument is about saving lives, people will die in either scenario. Don't hold your breath for a vaccine. Not that one won't be discovered. It's just often times difficult and takes a long time. I feel that this was hyped up so much and so much damage has been done financially, politicians and experts can't reverse course since there would be shitstorm waiting for those people. Easier just to go with the flow and let the current situation take its course. Thoughts?

First, the purpose of the social distancing, was to stop the virus from spiraling out of control and overwhelm our medical systems. New York was literally on the verge of complete collapse for a few days there. And those initial estimates of fatalities. Guess what if we had lost 2 or 3% of our population, I guarantee our economy would be in a lot worse shape. Because when the news is filled with tens of thousands dying every day like we would of had, nobody is going to go to work, shop or travel. This was a controlled crash. Yeah its fucked up our economy for the next few years. But the alternative would of been a lot worse.

As for everyone (including me) posting data or articles sourcing GPH as a source. Well, stop it. Because apparently they have be fucking up the reporting and the numbers.

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...9XEF8vO11NVGO/

[Jims2321]

You still refuse to answer my question. Did you even read what I said? Keep everything shut down, Jims. It's fine. Shut everything down until YOU tell us it's ok to come out from under our beds again. Give us nice little graphs and charts that "prove" your point when I know you are lying through your stupid teeth. If cases were up like you say then the AJC would be all over it because they are leftists like you who aren't happy unless everyone's lives are destroyed. But not a peep from the AJC. It must be nice for people like you and the AJC who have had no income interruption to lecture everyone else that they should be happy that their lives are being destroyed right before our eyes. That is what you are doing, Jims, that is what you are advocating. Cases and deaths have actually gone DOWN in Florida and Georgia, Jims, but that doesn't fit your narrow little agenda. And just what is your agenda, Jims? Why are you so adamant that there is only ONE way to address this virus instead of what I have advocated for, a strategy that takes into consideration the lives of EVERYONE, Jims. But you ignore that, Jims. You won't even consider it, Jims. Why Jims, why? When should we reopen, Jims, when nobody has a job anymore except you? Does that make sense to you, Jims? Does it make sense to you that the coronavirus is the only thing on this planet that must be addressed, Jims? What about people with other illnesses and afflictions whose medical problems have been put on the back burner because ONLY coronavirus cases count anymore, Jims? How many people will die from cancers that were diagnosed too late because of the mindless group think advocated by people like you, Jims? I could go on and on but it's useless, I know. For simpletons like you, Jims, it's shut everything down and destroy everyone's lives, Jims, and then excoriate people like me who try to talk some sense into your brain dead heads. But go ahead. Do it. In the pathetic group think that you are part of, Jims, you "might" "save" some lives (although how your group demands we do that is dubious at best) but then destroy millions more lives in the process. Sound like a good trade-off, Jims? You are more than willing to do it so it must be. Go ahead, Jims, do what you must do. The aftermath is going to be pure hell, Jims, pure hell. I am truly sorry that I cannot get you and others like you to even consider for a second how that aftermath is going to be. Do what you must do. We'll sort it all out in the wreckage that will follow and then we will see who walks away.

I never said keep everything shutdown. What I said is that opening everything up like its Mardi Gras is insanity. But your claims have of cases going down clearly does not match what the GPH, or even Florida's numbers. But you go on living in your dream world. Please go out, honestly the only way you will start realizing your world is a lie, is either when you are on a ventilator or you lose a loved one. But you do you.

Here is the Florida covid hospitalization chart. Tell me its going down.

[John HandCock]

In my opinion, the best course of action is to open up everything and let nature take its course and yes that does include me. I feel confident that it won't affect me but if it does, so be it. A vast majority of people will be unaffected by this virus health wise. I think just about all of us have felt it financially. Some more than others. A person can't live their life in fear or else what's the point of living? I've heard celebrity after celebrity contracting the virus with little to no affects. Data from California has shown that the actual cases in the US of people who have contracted the virus is at least 8 times more than the people who have been tested and confirmed for having the virus. The actual death rate is far lower than what is being pushed out in the media. There are so many ways to die. What is the old saying? A hundred million ways to die. Assaults, car accidents, stroke, heart attack, cancer, fall of a roof, another virus, etc. People die every day in a variety of ways. This virus does not scare me, personally. You can't fight fate. People believe they can but they would be wrong. That's why it's called fate. What does scare me is our current economic situation. Congress are talking now about a $3 trillion relief package. If that happens, that's $5 trillion spent by the federal government in less than 60 days. Damn!! Current deficit of more than $24 trillion. When does it end? Money doesn't grow on trees.

And since January, what's happened to the flu? All of a sudden, it just disappeared. Strange. As a nation, we have two choices. Keep it closed, which affects just about everyone negatively or open it up, which would affect a small amount of people negatively. If your argument is about saving lives, people will die in either scenario. Don't hold your breath for a vaccine. Not that one won't be discovered. It's just often times difficult and takes a long time. I feel that this was hyped up so much and so much damage has been done financially, politicians and experts can't reverse course since there would be shitstorm waiting for those people. Easier just to go with the flow and let the current situation take its course. Thoughts?

Pretty much hit it on the head. It's a virus and sooner or later your catching it, no if ands or buts. This isn't even thinning the herd any. I'm 68 and never seen this country shut down for anything before.

[HobbyMan51]

In my opinion, the best course of action is to open up everything and let nature take its course and yes that does include me. I feel confident that it won't affect me but if it does, so be it. A vast majority of people will be unaffected by this virus health wise. I think just about all of us have felt it financially. Some more than others. A person can't live their life in fear or else what's the point of living? I've heard celebrity after celebrity contracting the virus with little to no affects. Data from California has shown that the actual cases in the US of people who have contracted the virus is at least 8 times more than the people who have been tested and confirmed for having the virus. The actual death rate is far lower than what is being pushed out in the media. There are so many ways to die. What is the old saying? A hundred million ways to die. Assaults, car accidents, stroke, heart attack, cancer, fall of a roof, another virus, etc. People die every day in a variety of ways. This virus does not scare me, personally. You can't fight fate. People believe they can but they would be wrong. That's why it's called fate. What does scare me is our current economic situation. Congress are talking now about a $3 trillion relief package. If that happens, that's $5 trillion spent by the federal government in less than 60 days. Damn!! Current deficit of more than $24 trillion. When does it end? Money doesn't grow on trees.

And since January, what's happened to the flu? All of a sudden, it just disappeared. Strange. As a nation, we have two choices. Keep it closed, which affects just about everyone negatively or open it up, which would affect a small amount of people negatively. If your argument is about saving lives, people will die in either scenario. Don't hold your breath for a vaccine. Not that one won't be discovered. It's just often times difficult and takes a long time. I feel that this was hyped up so much and so much damage has been done financially, politicians and experts can't reverse course since there would be shitstorm waiting for those people. Easier just to go with the flow and let the current situation take its course. Thoughts?

Thank you. Common sense. You will be attacked, unfortunately, but what you are saying is the common sense truth. Too bad there are too many on this thread who cannot comprehend what you are trying to say to them. Thanks again for having the courage to say it, though.

[HobbyMan51]

Here ya go you knucklehead. In the last 1 week new cases across the state have gone up over 100%. This is why we should not be reopening.

You still refuse to answer my question. Did you even read what I said? Keep everything shut down, Jims. It's fine. Shut everything down until YOU tell us it's ok to come out from under our beds again. Give us nice little graphs and charts that "prove" your point when I know you are lying through your stupid teeth. If cases were up like you say then the AJC would be all over it because they are leftists like you who aren't happy unless everyone's lives are destroyed. But not a peep from the AJC. It must be nice for people like you and the AJC who have had no income interruption to lecture everyone else that they should be happy that their lives are being destroyed right before our eyes. That is what you are doing, Jims, that is what you are advocating. Cases and deaths have actually gone DOWN in Florida and Georgia, Jims, but that doesn't fit your narrow little agenda. And just what is your agenda, Jims? Why are you so adamant that there is only ONE way to address this virus instead of what I have advocated for, a strategy that takes into consideration the lives of EVERYONE, Jims. But you ignore that, Jims. You won't even consider it, Jims. Why Jims, why? When should we reopen, Jims, when nobody has a job anymore except you? Does that make sense to you, Jims? Does it make sense to you that the coronavirus is the only thing on this planet that must be addressed, Jims? What about people with other illnesses and afflictions whose medical problems have been put on the back burner because ONLY coronavirus cases count anymore, Jims? How many people will die from cancers that were diagnosed too late because of the mindless group think advocated by people like you, Jims? I could go on and on but it's useless, I know. For simpletons like you, Jims, it's shut everything down and destroy everyone's lives, Jims, and then excoriate people like me who try to talk some sense into your brain dead heads. But go ahead. Do it. In the pathetic group think that you are part of, Jims, you "might" "save" some lives (although how your group demands we do that is dubious at best) but then destroy millions more lives in the process. Sound like a good trade-off, Jims? You are more than willing to do it so it must be. Go ahead, Jims, do what you must do. The aftermath is going to be pure hell, Jims, pure hell. I am truly sorry that I cannot get you and others like you to even consider for a second how that aftermath is going to be. Do what you must do. We'll sort it all out in the wreckage that will follow and then we will see who walks away.