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  1. #9653
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyDreamer  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion you didn't miss out on much. I saw her recently at the hotel on 28th. Seemed to want to talk more than rub. If I had to rate the whole experience with her I would give 5/10. The one good thing is she was available on short notice after another provider ghosted. She seemed down to earth even offered to left me use the shower there in her room.
    How about the details? Was she FS, BJ, daty?

  2. #9652

    Ashley

    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkEtt  [View Original Post]
    After seeing some of the talk on here I decided to try to set something up with Ashley. Easy to set up and reasonable rates. Let me know to meet her at a hotel off 28th st. Let her know I arrived and she told me what door to meet her at. As I parked I saw a girl let a guy in and didn't think anything of it. Let her know I was there and immediately got a call from her. She said she let the wrong guy in and now didn't have anywhere to meet. Said I would have to wait. Thought about it for a minute and decided it all seemed too strange to me. Let her know I would just try to set something up a different time. She thanked me and apologized. I'm sure there is more to the story but didn't want to wait around to find out. Just wanted to share my experience.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
    In my opinion you didn't miss out on much. I saw her recently at the hotel on 28th. Seemed to want to talk more than rub. If I had to rate the whole experience with her I would give 5/10. The one good thing is she was available on short notice after another provider ghosted. She seemed down to earth even offered to left me use the shower there in her room.

  3. #9651

    6?

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyDreamer  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys, Looking to set up something with Hayley. I know she screens and I completely understand why. How do you guys feel about losing the privacy with the screening. Has it bit anyone in the back sharing info personal info? Like I said I completely understand the screening for safety and security. Anyone that works with the public worried things may get into wrong hands.

    I know I haven't posted much here. I have probably visited with 6 providers. Over the past year or so.
    You say you've seen six providers and only post "how about this one" questions. Contribute something and you may get something in return. Keep asking what about this one and you're on your own.

  4. #9650
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyDreamer  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys, Looking to set up something with Hayley. I know she screens and I completely understand why. How do you guys feel about losing the privacy with the screening. Has it bit anyone in the back sharing info personal info? Like I said I completely understand the screening for safety and security. Anyone that works with the public worried things may get into wrong hands.

    I know I haven't posted much here. I have probably visited with 6 providers. Over the past year or so
    Share your reviews but NEVER give them any personal info. Say your name is dick or bob, but never give info. It may come back to haunt you. They are not giving you their real name.

  5. #9649

    Post More

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyDreamer  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys, Looking to set up something with Hayley. I know she screens and I completely understand why. How do you guys feel about losing the privacy with the screening. Has it bit anyone in the back sharing info personal info? Like I said I completely understand the screening for safety and security. Anyone that works with the public worried things may get into wrong hands.

    I know I haven't posted much here. I have probably visited with 6 providers. Over the past year or so.
    Write some reviews and get your post count up to senior level status, many providers are on here and will take your continued hobbying and reporting as reference.

  6. #9648

    Ready to see Hayley

    Hey guys, Looking to set up something with Hayley. I know she screens and I completely understand why. How do you guys feel about losing the privacy with the screening. Has it bit anyone in the back sharing info personal info? Like I said I completely understand the screening for safety and security. Anyone that works with the public worried things may get into wrong hands.

    I know I haven't posted much here. I have probably visited with 6 providers. Over the past year or so.

  7. #9647

    Open MPs

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKentley  [View Original Post]
    Makayla is giving massages in Grand Rapids!? Sign me up!

    Slightly more seriously, are any MP's in the area open? I know, probably ludicrously stupid to even be considering it but holy hell I need a massage. Heck, if any legit spots were open I'd go there first. I'm in Holland and the three crappy MP options here are closed, probably good because I almost always regret it. Still STG seems to be getting overrun with scammers as fewer people are willing to provide services. Understandably.
    I saw last week That Woman in Michigan was going to coordinate with other area governors gradually reopening the state starting May 1. Now I see something about her wanting to extend the shutdown another 28 days, deep into May. I am with you, my little wienee needs to get whacked, I don't do it myself. The Republican legislature might take her to court if she tries to extend her executive order, hope they can stop her in time.

  8. #9646
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    Open MPs

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKentley  [View Original Post]
    Makayla is giving massages in Grand Rapids!? Sign me up!

    Slightly more seriously, are any MP's in the area open? I know, probably ludicrously stupid to even be considering it but holy hell I need a massage. Heck, if any legit spots were open I'd go there first. I'm in Holland and the three crappy MP options here are closed, probably good because I almost always regret it. Still STG seems to be getting overrun with scammers as fewer people are willing to provide services. Understandably
    Some providers are advertising on STG that have been at MPs prior to lockdown. Layla, Haley, Blonde 25, Ari, Ashley and others.

    Also I'd guess some are open but officially closed. Touch of Paradise always has cars parked there. Worth a try.

  9. #9645

    Angel

    Quote Originally Posted by Russians  [View Original Post]
    This is a pic of porn star Makayla LOL.

    https://xhamster.com/photos/gallery/makayla-8063787
    Thanks guess I need get up to pace on pornstars.

  10. #9644
    Senior Member


    Posts: 337

    Massage rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    Sadly that's become a moving target. Before BP went down parlors had door rates $40 half and $60 hour.
    For a topless HJ it was expected you'd tip the door fee. So half hour with topless happy ending was 40 door +40 tip.
    You might tip an extra 20 for a great experience but that was the default rates most places. A few exceptions existed but generally that was the deal. Anything more than HJ was negotiated. I paid 80-100 tip for BBBJ to a few that offered it. I paid 100 or more for FS for those that offered that.
    Then BP went down. Prices went crazy. I had a girl at Pacific explain to me that a lot of former mongers who used BP became parlor customers and the girls all raised their tip fees. I was told 100 tip for topless HJ by not so hot girls repeatedly to the extent I flat stopped seeing massage girls. I can get GFE escort service from several girls for under 100 half total so why am I going to pay 140 for a halfass massage and a topless HJ?
    Fuck that.

    That's my opinion. No offense to guys here paying top dollar. But I'm not paying it.
    When I started years back, almost everyone offered massages at 40 hhr60 hr. Parlors were known for upsell + door fee so most of my experiences were with ladies offering incall or private location. Almost always the tip was never discussed.

    Then girls started going to flat rates. Or rates high enough that it shouldn't be expected to tip. Personally I have less of an issue with this on the parlor side if you know what you're getting and you can avoid the upsell. The funny thing is, do you recall any escort talking about tips in their rates? So why does an escort offer competitive or cheaper services with no tipping involved and more services than the flip and tug? And what if the massage sucks?

    The hybrid escort + masseuse is where it's at. Not all guys need a FS provider but getting a massage with a little GFE and a wider menu is the best of both worlds!

    If you're looking for a great experience without breaking the bank on the massage side, try Julia Sweetcheeks, Aliese, Sweet Megan or Arii. All of these girls will give a great hour session for $120-140 and that's if you tip matching the donation.

    If you want massage + GFE and more, go see Riley or Hunter. Both their skill sets extend beyond the table.

    Then there is the flat rate crew. Hayley, Layla, B25. I've seen them all and will see again but understand they are popular enough to request higher than market rates because the demand is there. They are all uniquely sensual and worth a trip. But yes they charge more and I think it's more of the exception than the rule.

  11. #9643

    Any MP's open?

    Quote Originally Posted by Russians  [View Original Post]
    This is a pic of porn star Makayla LOL.
    Makayla is giving massages in Grand Rapids!? Sign me up!

    Slightly more seriously, are any MP's in the area open? I know, probably ludicrously stupid to even be considering it but holy hell I need a massage. Heck, if any legit spots were open I'd go there first. I'm in Holland and the three crappy MP options here are closed, probably good because I almost always regret it. Still STG seems to be getting overrun with scammers as fewer people are willing to provide services. Understandably.

  12. #9642

    Angel

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyDreamer  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone seen this Angel. Not much luck in the search feature. Thanks.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...y/198388320787
    This is a pic of porn star Makayla LOL.

    https://xhamster.com/photos/gallery/makayla-8063787

  13. #9641

    Joyy - 40 yr old

    Unbelievable she would ask for a tip like that with all those interruptions and the overall shorting of the appointment. Thanks for sharing this.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/199218431350

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTrack  [View Original Post]
    She use to give a great massage! I use to see her every 7-10 days when she was at 28/ eastern.

    Then she was trying to manage / run the place off Division /44th. I had an appointment with her that sucked. She let massage room 9 times for minutes at a time. The last time she came back in room and told me I had to go and that she was going to have to owe me 20 minutes that she was shorting me. I explained l felt she owed more since I paid for an hour and I was only there a half hour, plus she left the room 9 times! She didn't feel the same. Whatever, take care Joy. 10 hours later she's drunk, blowing up my phone telling me how upset she was I didn't leave her a tip and she knows she gives best massage in GR. I asked her not to call or text me as she's going to cause problems for me. She demanded 100 tip! Nope, not doing that for the maybe 5 minute massage that I already had 60 into. Crazy!! I hung up.

    She then called several times over the next hour (11 pm) then left a shitty voicemail that went on so long my voicemail disconnected. I blocked her # and haven't reached again, for obvious reasons! LOL. YMMV!

    Good luck guys and stay safe!

    Twotrack.
    Quote Originally Posted by NoseJelly  [View Original Post]
    Curious if any one has acted on this ad?

    Some of you know Joy and I go way way back. I used to see her at least once a week. Stopped because she is notorious for blowing up your phone and I got tired of getting the Stink Eye from her Thai BF. She does give a great Thai Massage, with stretching, HJ, etc. And nice body for her age.
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  14. #9640

    Ashley aka Winter aka Wynter - 22 yr old

    Well that sucks! It appears she double booked. Could have been a mistake but more likely she is doing that counter no shows and cancellations. I get it, the no shows and cancellations suck. But providers should not be double booking us.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkEtt  [View Original Post]
    After seeing some of the talk on here I decided to try to set something up with Ashley. Easy to set up and reasonable rates. Let me know to meet her at a hotel off 28th st. Let her know I arrived and she told me what door to meet her at. As I parked I saw a girl let a guy in and didn't think anything of it. Let her know I was there and immediately got a call from her. She said she let the wrong guy in and now didn't have anywhere to meet. Said I would have to wait. Thought about it for a minute and decided it all seemed too strange to me. Let her know I would just try to set something up a different time. She thanked me and apologized. I'm sure there is more to the story but didn't want to wait around to find out. Just wanted to share my experience.

    http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...t/906555331226
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  15. #9639
    Sadly that's become a moving target. Before BP went down parlors had door rates $40 half and $60 hour.
    For a topless HJ it was expected you'd tip the door fee. So half hour with topless happy ending was 40 door +40 tip.
    You might tip an extra 20 for a great experience but that was the default rates most places. A few exceptions existed but generally that was the deal. Anything more than HJ was negotiated. I paid 80-100 tip for BBBJ to a few that offered it. I paid 100 or more for FS for those that offered that.
    Then BP went down. Prices went crazy. I had a girl at Pacific explain to me that a lot of former mongers who used BP became parlor customers and the girls all raised their tip fees. I was told 100 tip for topless HJ by not so hot girls repeatedly to the extent I flat stopped seeing massage girls. I can get GFE escort service from several girls for under 100 half total so why am I going to pay 140 for a halfass massage and a topless HJ?
    Fuck that.

    That's my opinion. No offense to guys here paying top dollar. But I'm not paying it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkEtt  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for this, I'm still learning what the going rates are.

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