Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[Michael1967]

I'm still on the fence on the whole thing. I think the whole thing is way overblown, but I'm not stupid enough to say it publicly and be one of those people being laughed at on in social media that disputed the evidence surrounding the virus and ended up dead from it. So, I will impart some wisdom I was taught from a business owner 25 years ago.

He said, "If you allow your accountants to make all of your business decisions, then your business will ultimately fail. " I originally thought this was a stab at me, because this guy's business was going bankrupt. I came in made major adjustments and his business was thriving. He then wanted to remodel the facility and expand. I ran the numbers and told him that he would go bankrupt if he did this. He said that if he didn't do it, no one would be interested in his business in a few years. I quit. 20+ years later, his little business has expanded to several branches and he's a major player in the market. An accountant's job is NOT to take risk; an entrepreneur's job is to take risk and I stepped out of my lane. Stay with me, this is an important point.

Over time I realized that you can't allow an expert in a specific field to make decisions for the common good. They will fix the problem at hand, but in fixing that problem they will cause more problems outside of their expertise than they can fix. As an example, you can't allow an environmentalist full control on cleaning up the environment. You would end up with a clean environment, but it would basically kill most industries. You can't put a successful business person in charge of an economy. You would end up with a great economy, but many workers and the environment would be severely hurt.

In one month, we just added 4 trillion dollars to our national debt, we have destroyed thousands (if not millions) of small businesses, people that were self-sufficient may be homeless in several months. Because of this virus, we allowed doctors / scientists a substantial voice in creating public policy. They may eradicate or limit the deaths from this virus, but in the end, they may have destroyed the quality of life of 300 million people for the next 20 years.

[Facials]

Easy now. The Title of this thread is Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

I think his comments do qualify under one of those headings.

Careful GBL. Only admin2 gets to Rant, Rave & stupid shit. It is his thread.

[GangBangLeader]

Please don't post partisan stupidity like this on review threads. And before you insult my intelligence by saying "what, I called him intelligent." Don't.

I don't care who you prefer to fuck you up the ass with a giant red, white, and blue dildo just keep it off the review threads.

A2

Easy now. The Title of this thread is Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

I think his comments do qualify under one of those headings.

[Morgan Creamin]

What you're doing is conflating current evidence with evidence of 6 weeks ago. We knew less about the virus back then and so models from then are bound to have a certain amount inaccuracy. That's to be expected. You seem to be implying that because we know more than we did 6 weeks ago that we know 'enough' to make decisions that affect millions of people. That's fairly cavalier and not very scientific at all. Given the continued large gaps in our understanding of the behavior of the virus a certain amount of caution in reversing prophylactic social interventions seems warranted until either the knowledge base increases to a higher level of certainty or the evidence regarding infections rates, hospitalizations, etc becomes clear past the point of doubt.

Science does have a meaning and it also has well defined processes and logic. Looking at the latest numbers and thinking that's all you need to know without deeper analysis of larger trendlines and incorporating other data is not a scientific modality.

The decisions to stay closed are not based on science. All their "models" have proven incredibly pessimistic. All the actual field data, e. G. The Princess Diamond, actual random antibody tests in various places, show that the virus and antibodies are already widespread. And actual data tells us the hospitals haven't filled up (outside of NYC, which partied long and has subways) and the ventilators weren't needed.

The word "science" has a meaning. That your hypothesis is "falsifiable", meaning you can prove it wrong. The models that the shutdown were based on have all been proven wrong. Ergo, and this is the actual use of the word "ergo", continuing the shutdowns is the anti-scientific side.

Of course everyone else will be opening far later than recommended too, especially those looking at economics, etc. Just depends on whose recommendations you're listening to.

[Admin2]

The incredibly intelligent Governor of GA announced the re-opening of massage parlors as one of the types of businesses that can be re-opened as long as social distancing can be followed. Tell me genius. How do you get a massage while maintaining social distancing?

Please don't post partisan stupidity like this on review threads. And before you insult my intelligence by saying "what, I called him intelligent." Don't.

I don't care who you prefer to fuck you up the ass with a giant red, white, and blue dildo just keep it off the review threads.

A2

[Rousse]

Yeah, somehow it's become a partisan issue whether or not we should go back to work. Decisions based on polling rather than science. I understand mistrust of government, but when the ENTIRE WORLD is shut down, how does anyone think it's a liberal ploy?

The decisions to stay closed are not based on science. All their "models" have proven incredibly pessimistic. All the actual field data, e. G. The Princess Diamond, actual random antibody tests in various places, show that the virus and antibodies are already widespread. And actual data tells us the hospitals haven't filled up (outside of NYC, which partied long and has subways) and the ventilators weren't needed.

The word "science" has a meaning. That your hypothesis is "falsifiable", meaning you can prove it wrong. The models that the shutdown were based on have all been proven wrong. Ergo, and this is the actual use of the word "ergo", continuing the shutdowns is the anti-scientific side.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia and South Carolina when they open earlier than recommended.

Of course everyone else will be opening far later than recommended too, especially those looking at economics, etc. Just depends on whose recommendations you're listening to.

[Efurufe]

The incredibly intelligent Governor of GA announced the re-opening of massage parlors as one of the types of businesses that can be re-opened as long as social distancing can be followed. Tell me genius. How do you get a massage while maintaining social distancing?

Yeah, somehow it's become a partisan issue whether or not we should go back to work. Decisions based on polling rather than science. I understand mistrust of government, but when the ENTIRE WORLD is shut down, how does anyone think it's a liberal ploy?

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia and South Carolina when they open earlier than recommended. Glad we're not experimenting with that here, though. As much as I'm ready for parlors to open again, I have some good friends in the healthcare field who I care about more than getting an HE.

[Pigrig]

The incredibly intelligent Governor of GA announced the re-opening of massage parlors as one of the types of businesses that can be re-opened as long as social distancing can be followed. Tell me genius. How do you get a massage while maintaining social distancing?

Well that's good maybe that trend will head this way. But, on another note. All the AMP that I visited in the Augusta area had old old women with a Kong Foo grip that I was afraid my little buddy would be detached before reaching a happy ending.

[MartyByrde]

The incredibly intelligent Governor of GA announced the re-opening of massage parlors as one of the types of businesses that can be re-opened as long as social distancing can be followed. Tell me genius. How do you get a massage while maintaining social distancing?

Yeah, that would be a ticik!

As I posted before, this AMP is still open:

https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massag...oines-wa-39389#rubmaps.

When I visited the other day, she definitely touched me!

Also, just out of curiosity, called these 2 places yesterday:

https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massag...ngton-wa-14168#rubmaps.

https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massag...auburn-wa-4674#rubmaps.

For the first one, a woman answered, but said (politely) that they were closed. For the second one, a woman answered and said they would be open today.

[Rousse]

The incredibly intelligent Governor of GA announced the re-opening of massage parlors as one of the types of businesses that can be re-opened as long as social distancing can be followed. Tell me genius. How do you get a massage while maintaining social distancing?

I have no problem. You just need to reel out more hose. .

[DrtyHarry]

The incredibly intelligent Governor of GA announced the re-opening of massage parlors as one of the types of businesses that can be re-opened as long as social distancing can be followed. Tell me genius. How do you get a massage while maintaining social distancing?

[Morgan Creamin]

If the session is not logged that's immaterial. My VPN provider has been subpoenaed in the past by LEO. Not for me, LOL. And they turned over everything they had, which was nothing. They have lists of all their customers but do not log individual sessions so you can't prove any user is associated with any session. TLS will cover being snooped on once the traffic leaves the VPN, of course but then it's public wires with nothing to say it's my system unless the end site is tracking, which is possible. Again, not saying it's 100% but it's enough to make it quite difficult to track who I am.

Keep in mind that the VPN does not cover your session end to end. It's between you and the portal. From there onward you're out in the open Internet. SSL / TLS is the next piece to utilize.

FYI.

TT.

[SeattleMassage]

RANT

- People paying stupid ridiculous TNA pricing. WHY ?! for crying out loud are you paying some of these insanely high prices?
- Providers you can see on TNA who apparently only will let you contact them if you are a TNA member.
- Women with ugly huge tattoos covering huge parts of their body who somehow think this is attractive.

RAVE

- Massage parlor girls who right away let you know from the get go by how they do their massage and how they touch that you'll be leaving happy and satisfied and that you'll get your money worth.

- When you can understand what the hell they are saying on the phone haha.

[The Tanuki]

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1- I never access this or other mongering sites without using a VPN that has a proven track record of not logging sessions and not cooperating with LEO.

2- I sign up for these forums with emails I use for no other purpose than to create accounts on the forums.

3- I never log into those emails without using my VPN.

Keep in mind that the VPN does not cover your session end to end. It's between you and the portal. From there onward you're out in the open Internet. SSL / TLS is the next piece to utilize.

FYI.

TT.

[Admin2]

I tend to agree but cases are often won by technicalities. Does using the 'dream' format create enough plausible deniability that something is 'for entertainment purposes only?' Don't know, but that would be decided as part of any pre-trial motions to expunge vs having a jury decide it. If it reaches that point and your forum history is admissible you're already fucked. There are plenty of sites that translate mongering 'code' so I see it more as habit than having any protective effect. The real trick is to make it as difficult as possible to figure out who you really are from your online presence.

I feel confident enough in the barriers I have in place to go over some of them.

1- I never access this or other mongering sites without using a VPN that has a proven track record of not logging sessions and not cooperating with LEO.

2- I sign up for these forums with emails I use for no other purpose than to create accounts on the forums.

3- I never log into those emails without using my VPN.

4- I never reference this forum anywhere save on this forum, same goes for other sites.

5- I never reference any personally identifying information from the forum or those email accounts.

I try and make a barrier with enough technical doubt as to my real identity as possible. You want an air gap between your recorded activity online that could be incriminating and your true identity. Could someone find out who I am if they tried hard enough,? Probably. But with a few simple steps I've made it so hard and inserted enough doubt using those 5 steps (and others I won't reveal) that I feel confident the effort isn't worth it.

You make sure to avail yourself of the anonymity we intended you to have when we started the forum.

Smart move.

A2.