CookyJar and I have been personal friends much longer than I can remember. In the many years we have been friends I'll say this. He has never to my knowledge taken advantage of anybody for any amount of money. He has given away more money than most of us have lost in this game. He has no need to set anybody up for any girl. He's simply not that type of person.
I'm sorry the other monger lost money because he met a girl CookyJar spoke highly of. It's a shame. I will say this that Cookyjar had nothing to do with his nor anybody's loss.
When any of us post here, lets understand, we speak of our own experience. He always point's out YMMV. We, as well as those that lose money, can't predict how things will go. Hell, if I lost $300 to some girl so I could watch her text on her phone I would be pissed also. I just wouldn't blame any one but myself for allowing it to happen. Let's face it who gave the girl the $300.00? CookyJar? Hmmmmm.
If we find ourselves in a situation that may require giving front money, walk away. It's not worth the risk. If we feel we can't or don't want to walk away then put up 25% - 50%. Tell them they get the balance when the task is finished. Never give a girl money you can't afford to lose or spend.
I have publicly spoke out against the practice of giving front money over and over. I've been cursed, threatened, yelled at because all I'm trying to do is keep people from this exact situation.
When you arrange to see a girl your money is in your pocket. Right along side of the control. Hand her the money and you hand her control. If that makes you comfortable then by all means do it. Just don't cry when you go out the door with a dick in your ass instead of lips around your dick. It seems pretty simple. It's nobody's fault but our own when that happens.
Why in the world would someone pay for something they don't have?
When guys with the funds begin to understand she needs you more than you need her this shit will stop. There are dozens of women that will not screw you over. It's all part of being safe in the game. Be a winner don't be the loser. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Come on bro. You got caught with your pants down. He's blaming who? Niggga please' this the effing game we play. You reap what he sowed. We've all got taken one way or another and at the end of the day it's on you as the individual. You know how many SW's out there in my line of work I've seen and been in compromising situations. Using the info on here from other fellow mongers reviews? I'm going to blame them because. ? YoshiRed needs to tighten up on that bs'. Blame who!. Blame on you bro'. Sorry but we ain't kinda sorry on here. This ain't no church / school / prison / gym / card game / bar / lounge / family gatherings. This is the game. TIGHTEN UP NEXT TIME.
I would go so far as to say all the SW's are addicts, as in 100% so my rebuttal is to your use of the word, "most".
My goal is to find the relatively new arrival of the addict to K Avenue. As many will attest, the streets can age a provider in just a matter of months. So if you can hit one when they are relatively new to the street, its almost like playing lotto. The odds are very much against you but its hitting a winner (even at the lowest modest levels) that provides enormous satisfaction and keeps you coming back thinking the next one will be the big payoff. In reality, the big payoff is an unattainable myth but nobody hobbies thinking it is not totally out of reach.
I have been out of town, on a road trip and unable to keep up with my correspondence. Prior to my trip, YoshiRed was kind enough to private message me a heads-up regarding the information in a post that he would be placing in the public forums of both Philadelphia and New Jersey. In this PM to me, it was kind of implied that the recommendations which I had made, involving Phoenix's behavior and personality, were largely considered in his decision to set-up a date. I got the impression that he sees me as partly to blame.
YoshiRed has every right to be pissed about what happened. Yes! He has every right to be pissed. But! He should not be pissed at me. Nor should he be upset about my endorsement. $300 dollars is a lot to lose for anyone of modest income. To that end, I would like to offer this information given by 'OL Gator, in response to another mongers loss of money.
To further free myself of any guilt regarding YoshiRed's loss, I would like to offer these three testimonials, given by others.
I'm assuming Den86 met, "not on her phone at all. ".
Personally, I'd take this one with a grain of salt. Few mongers are going to give a $40 tip on top of a $200 fee..
I have 2 providers in our area. Both respond to the cell phone 90% of the time. All are reasonable priced and do no not connive. Convenience. They are probably working mothers and need a little bit of cash and lay low.
I have been out of town, on a road trip and unable to keep up with my correspondence. Prior to my trip, YoshiRed was kind enough to private message me a heads-up regarding the information in a post that he would be placing in the public forums of both Philadelphia and New Jersey. In this PM to me, it was kind of implied that the recommendations which I had made, involving Phoenix's behavior and personality, were largely considered in his decision to set-up a date. I got the impression that he sees me as partly to blame.
YoshiRed has every right to be pissed about what happened. Yes! He has every right to be pissed. But! He should not be pissed at me. Nor should he be upset about my endorsement. $300 dollars is a lot to lose for anyone of modest income. To that end, I would like to offer this information given by 'OL Gator, in response to another mongers loss of money.
To further free myself of any guilt regarding YoshiRed's loss, I would like to offer these three testimonials, given by others.
I'm assuming Den86 met, "not on her phone at all. ".
Paying any girl 300 especially if you could get her off the street for a fraction of that price. Criminal.
Gator has done nothing but give good advice and hook people up. CJ shares his wisdom and "finds" to all of our benefit.
I would go so far as to say all the SW's are addicts, as in 100% so my rebuttal is to your use of the word, "most".
My goal is to find the relatively new arrival of the addict to K Avenue. As many will attest, the streets can age a provider in just a matter of months. So if you can hit one when they are relatively new to the street, its almost like playing lotto. The odds are very much against you but its hitting a winner (even at the lowest modest levels) that provides enormous satisfaction and keeps you coming back thinking the next one will be the big payoff. In reality, the big payoff is an unattainable myth but nobody hobbies thinking it is not totally out of reach.
CookyJar and I have been personal friends much longer than I can remember. In the many years we have been friends I'll say this. He has never to my knowledge taken advantage of anybody for any amount of money. He has given away more money than most of us have lost in this game. He has no need to set anybody up for any girl. He's simply not that type of person.
I'm sorry the other monger lost money because he met a girl CookyJar spoke highly of. It's a shame. I will say this that Cookyjar had nothing to do with his nor anybody's loss.
When any of us post here, lets understand, we speak of our own experience. He always point's out YMMV. We, as well as those that lose money, can't predict how things will go. Hell, if I lost $300 to some girl so I could watch her text on her phone I would be pissed also. I just wouldn't blame any one but myself for allowing it to happen. Let's face it who gave the girl the $300.00? CookyJar? Hmmmmm.
If we find ourselves in a situation that may require giving front money, walk away. It's not worth the risk. If we feel we can't or don't want to walk away then put up 25% - 50%. Tell them they get the balance when the task is finished. Never give a girl money you can't afford to lose or spend.
I have publicly spoke out against the practice of giving front money over and over. I've been cursed, threatened, yelled at because all I'm trying to do is keep people from this exact situation.
When you arrange to see a girl your money is in your pocket. Right along side of the control. Hand her the money and you hand her control. If that makes you comfortable then by all means do it. Just don't cry when you go out the door with a dick in your ass instead of lips around your dick. It seems pretty simple. It's nobody's fault but our own when that happens.
Why in the world would someone pay for something they don't have?
When guys with the funds begin to understand she needs you more than you need her this shit will stop. There are dozens of women that will not screw you over. It's all part of being safe in the game. Be a winner don't be the loser. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Folks need to understand this.
Most of these girls are addicts. All of them are in less than ideal circumstances. Some have crazy boyfriend / family stuff. This means you can't expect 100% consistency. Not to even mention that everyone has bad and good days. I do better work some days than others.
Finally, there's a personal element to this. These are human beings, what ever else is happening. Sometimes some people don't hit it off.
All of which is to say that a recommendation is not a guaranty. The same girl one loves might not do well with another. She may be high one day, or have had some insane problem that day.
THERE ARE NO HOBBY GUARANTEES!
Gator has done nothing but give good advice and hook people up. CJ shares his wisdom and "finds" to all of our benefit.
CookyJar and I have been personal friends much longer than I can remember. In the many years we have been friends I'll say this. He has never to my knowledge taken advantage of anybody for any amount of money. He has given away more money than most of us have lost in this game. He has no need to set anybody up for any girl. He's simply not that type of person.
I'm sorry the other monger lost money because he met a girl CookyJar spoke highly of. It's a shame. I will say this that Cookyjar had nothing to do with his nor anybody's loss.
When any of us post here, lets understand, we speak of our own experience. He always point's out YMMV. We, as well as those that lose money, can't predict how things will go. Hell, if I lost $300 to some girl so I could watch her text on her phone I would be pissed also. I just wouldn't blame any one but myself for allowing it to happen. Let's face it who gave the girl the $300.00? CookyJar? Hmmmmm.
If we find ourselves in a situation that may require giving front money, walk away. It's not worth the risk. If we feel we can't or don't want to walk away then put up 25% - 50%. Tell them they get the balance when the task is finished. Never give a girl money you can't afford to lose or spend.
I have publicly spoke out against the practice of giving front money over and over. I've been cursed, threatened, yelled at because all I'm trying to do is keep people from this exact situation.
When you arrange to see a girl your money is in your pocket. Right along side of the control. Hand her the money and you hand her control. If that makes you comfortable then by all means do it. Just don't cry when you go out the door with a dick in your ass instead of lips around your dick. It seems pretty simple. It's nobody's fault but our own when that happens.
Why in the world would someone pay for something they don't have?
When guys with the funds begin to understand she needs you more than you need her this shit will stop. There are dozens of women that will not screw you over. It's all part of being safe in the game. Be a winner don't be the loser. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
I have been out of town, on a road trip and unable to keep up with my correspondence. Prior to my trip, YoshiRed was kind enough to private message me a heads-up regarding the information in a post that he would be placing in the public forums of both Philadelphia and New Jersey. In this PM to me, it was kind of implied that the recommendations which I had made, involving Phoenix's behavior and personality, were largely considered in his decision to set-up a date. I got the impression that he sees me as partly to blame.
Just wanted to warn everyone here about Phoenix who posts on Skipthegames. http://philadelphia.skipthegames.com...b/298465130494
I'll keep this short because I'm still pissed about what happened. She agrees to get a room for us. We agreed on 300 for 90 min. We meet up and she's very nice and physically my type. Conversation was pleasant but she wastes over an hour texted nonstop on her phone before finally taking a shower. Comes out and at this point over 90 min have gone by but she assures me we're good and I'll get my time. Then starts texting again and then tells me her driver (pimp) says my time is up and I have to go. I look out the window and see two black guys in a Nissan suv so I just put my clothes on and proceed to get the hell out of there but she tells me she didn't know this would happen and that she'll make it up to me and we'll get together privately. Tried texting her a few times this past week and she just ignores me so obviously I got taken. I"m done, stay safe guys.
YoshiRed has every right to be pissed about what happened. Yes! He has every right to be pissed. But! He should not be pissed at me. Nor should he be upset about my endorsement. $300 dollars is a lot to lose for anyone of modest income. To that end, I would like to offer this information given by 'OL Gator, in response to another mongers loss of money.
I agree 100%. Its a shame you got burned for your money. But it wasn't a total loss. You bought an education. There's something positive that comes from it. It's best to think in this game everyone you make contact with will screw you over. Because given the proper conditions they will. It's been proven time and time again.
I have no doubt your intentions was honorable. Just look at the elements you are dealing with. What are their intentions? Their intent is to get as much money from us as they can for doing as little as they need to do as quickly as possible. Then they move on tho the next one. That is what we need to compute. Not real difficult to understand.
I always look at the situation this way. If you give a girl in this business your funds up front what incentive is there for her not to screw you over? She's accomplished her goal. She has what she wants. Once she sees the green the wheels begin to turn. She's thinking wow that was easy. I've said it before, never give any of these girls your funds till you have what you want. Always be ready to walk away from any deal that you are not in complete control of. Money in this game is control. The control passes to the person you gave your funds to. Agreed? Lose your money you lose control. Then anything can and will happen. Every girl in this game knows this first hand. They talk about it among themselves.
If you can't walk away knowing you will find another girl then you don't belong in the game. It's the people that pay up front that create the problem. They will blame the girl every time but it's them. Guys that can't focus on anything past what's in front of them. So they throw caution and safety to the wind. Then they lose the game. If everyone put their foot down and said No More then the rip offs would come to a screeching halt. Plain and simple.
Don't be the person that screws yourself. Don't place that dick in your own ass on the way out the door. I assume your money comes as hard to you as mine comes to me. NEVER EVER give a girl in this game front money. Simply tell her when you get what you are paying for the funds come after. She may say she doesn't do it that way. She's been screwed to many times.
Tell her you are sorry she's been taken advantage of but so have you, So now you set the rules. Stick to it. Tell her she's welcome to find another client that will do things her way. You do things your way. Then if she goes move on. Remember if she leaves and you move on you are going with your funds still in your pocket. So who's the winner here? Me I'm just an 'OL Gator.
To further free myself of any guilt regarding YoshiRed's loss, I would like to offer these three testimonials, given by others.
I went to an incall with her a few weeks back and besides the fact she only allows for one cup, there were no real issues. She wasnt on the phone at all for me. She smoked a cigarette in the bathroom though which only took her a few minutes.
She was nice enough but it was a ***** to get her to agree for a second helping due to the fact it took me over an hour and her head game is fantastic and I had to get her to stop or I was going to cum in 5 minutes. She allows daty. Does not all fiv. Paid for greek. But didn't last long due to her head game earlier. I did get her to a second round but yeah. That was annoying.
She is the type where you should only pay for either a qv or hh due to the one and done aspect.
But again she was nit on her phone at all.
I'm assuming Den86 met, "not on her phone at all. ".
I saw Phoenix last week. 200 for hour. Incall very nice hotel. Safe, clean room.
She performed incredible. BBBJ full GFE looked great wearing pair of ripped black leggings and a black sports bra. Hair was down. Make up done smelled great. Had a very pretty gf there as well I will see this week. I wore condom and went 2 x. Got my moneys worth for sure. Tipped her 40.
Personally, I'd take this one with a grain of salt. Few mongers are going to give a $40 tip on top of a $200 fee.
… a smiling spinner did appear. It turned out to be Phoenix. Now, I hadn't read the General thread before that, and I wish I had because I would've known how special an occasion this was. She has a great attitude, is super friendly, and cool with whatever. I wish I'd had a room, because I would've been glad to keep her for a more special experience. Since she hasn't posted on stg in awhile, I assume she lost her digits, but I didn't even try, because it's generally futile. I just hope I run into her again sometime.
So there it is. Is the fault on me? I think not. I never like hearing that a fellow monger has had a bad time of it. The loss of $300 buck would piss me off to no end. Yet! In this case, I don't feel any blame. It's true, my reviews on Phoenix, in the South Jersey General thread are glowing. However, it should always be remembered that, YMMV.
Never give any girl, especially a known streetwalker, $300 upfront.
Ann is still my go to provider. She always takes it up a notch or two. I don't think I have ever done a photo shoot with just Ann. Maybe someday I will catch her when I am alone.
Ann and Michelle are two defying girls, together; they are not for the faint-of-heart.
CookyJar.
Don't know if it's been reported, but sadly Michelle is no longer with us. I have a few memories of our time together. Here's a sample.
I finally met Sharon last night. Man was she great. I remember seeing Sharon on CJ's photos a couple years ago and thought to myself, I'd love to meet her. I was finally lucky enough to bump into her. Since CJ's photo, she's lost some weight and is totally that hot spinner mom next door type. Or lack of better words. A MILF. Before we finished talking, I got her number and off she went. I hope to see her again soon. Below is a photo to jog everyone's memory. Hope CJ doesn't mind me borrowing his photo.
Great job CookyJar. Ashley has been a friend of mine a few years now. She has a great personality and is quite willing to go the extra mile to see to it you get the service you want and deserve. Iv'e never heard anyone complain about her. She has that sexy seductive look about her. It's good to see you are back doing what you love. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
It's not that I have abandon Kensington Avenue and the Philadelphia forum; it is the fact that I have been having such a good time in Camden on Broadway. A few weeks ago, while driving pass Huntingdon Station, I saw Ashley standing there watching traffic. She had a cute face and what appeared to be a robust figure hidden under her winter garments.
I like to think of myself as an Equal-Opportunity-Monger. I believe that, as long as the girl is physically clean, reasonably attractive, over 21 years old and not acting like a nut case; she should be given the equal opportunity of sucking my dick. I do have a preference for petite spinner types. But! Having said all that, I must admit I have always had a fondness for big legs and a smile.
What I prize the most is a good attitude and good performance. Ashley has both. The room we were in was chilly-as-hell, so I let Ashley keep on her hoodie. (The lack of good cheap accommodations in Philadelphia is another reason for my frequent trips to NJ.) The photo session was cut short do to the chill and because another room became available.
After moving to another room, with heat, we decided to forgo additional photos. We used the balance of our time together getting to know each other.
I call her my librarian because I met her in a library and she looks like a librarian doesn't she? As one would expect she is quiet and submissive: does everything she is told. She likes to be quiet even during sex but, shades of "Groundhog Day," she makes noises like a chipmunk when she gets really excited. Hearing her breathlessly squeak as she bounces up and down on my cock is so perversely enjoyable. She is dutifully good without complaint for as long and for as many cups as I can manage. I love to fish hook her as I am doing her doggy. Some day I will get a tripod and catch that action as it happens.
Once I didn't have time to go to a hotel and we did it in the car like two teenagers. I reported on this a while back. I will dig out some extra photos from this and post them sometime. I never had so much fun in a car when I was actually a teenager. Some things actually do get better with age.
Please follow this link to: Lauren a fit little spinner , over in the South Jersey, General Thread. ....
My pictures are recent, taken last month.
CookyJar
Seems santa has been really nice to you General this year. Nice pix. I look for harlots like these down south but this one would panzer them out on best days. Can't wait to see what you do in 2020.
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