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  1. #3340

    Kim in Arnold

    Can I get any help on gal from Arnold goes by Kim at private residence.

    Last four digits are 1094 thanks.

    Looks like might of been stripper.

  2. #3339

    Sort of Real.

    Pics are fake. She is actually an old porn star. Kitty Lee is her name. More of a bbw. Great natural set. 1st time I met her she was a little more loose on her services. The second time I saw her she was more strict only doing HE and Russians only. Was still good though. Can't remember price. And this was well over 1 yr ago the last time I saw her. M

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBurn  [View Original Post]
    First time posting. LOOOOOONG time lurker. Thank you all for your knowledge.

    https://stlouis.rubratings.com/121102

    I have come across this ad for YEARS, but have been too cowardly to pull the trigger. Does anyone have any intel? Real? Fake? Scam?

    I'm DYING here. Appreciate any info.

    Semper,

    JB.
    .

  3. #3338
    I've seen her a lot. Her pics are older, but pretty accurate. She is very attractive, gives a decent massage, and a good happy ending.

    I've never gotten a CBJ or BBBJ from her or FS. Limited mutual touching. I think her prices are a little high though. 180 for an hour. Very safe, clean location.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBurn  [View Original Post]
    First time posting. LOOOOOONG time lurker. Thank you all for your knowledge.

    https://stlouis.rubratings.com/121102

    I have come across this ad for YEARS, but have been too cowardly to pull the trigger. Does anyone have any intel? Real? Fake? Scam?

    I'm DYING here. Appreciate any info.

    Semper,

    JB.

  4. #3337

    Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBurn  [View Original Post]
    First time posting. LOOOOOONG time lurker. Thank you all for your knowledge.

    https://stlouis.rubratings.com/121102

    I have come across this ad for YEARS, but have been too cowardly to pull the trigger. Does anyone have any intel? Real? Fake? Scam?

    I'm DYING here. Appreciate any info.

    Semper,

    JB.
    Couple things here, JB /1st time poster:

    1) Toni is a massage gal.

    2) She's been reviewed several times on the massage thread.

    Do a search there and you'll find what you need. Searching is ALWAYS the first step on getting information on any gal. It's kind of a slap in the face of the guys who post reports on here when newbies just ask away without taking the time search. Is it easy? Yeah, pretty easy. Not as easy as just posting "Tell me about this one. " But it's just reading and pushing a few keys on your keyboard, right? Search her phone number, search her name, search her location, or try some key words she might always use in her ads. (Thinking "Maneater" here for the lady on the east side who was much discussed here today.).

    This is a "share and share alike" site. You can't always be a sponge (lurking or just reading) soaking up others' reports. You also have to be guy who rings out his own sponge about data he has soaked up after he has an experience, be it good, bad or indifferent.

    Best wishes. Go search. Take on for the team sometimes. Have fun. Share the knowledge.

    LTB.

  5. #3336

    Furthermore

    Obliviously, not all AA fit the stereotypical AA. The providers know this but the problem is the heavy majority of AA do fit the stereotypical AA. So, the girls would rather not take the risk. This is coming from a old school well reviewed traveling provider that's been around for 10 plus years. She says she doesn't see AA but admitted to me she sees one and that's it. She will not risk seeing new ones because it's not worth the risk in her eyes. She also will never partner up with other girls. Why? Because it always ends up getting fucked up. This provider travels the country and absolutely has her shit in order. What proves this is I know of a few white mongers that many providers refuse to see. I've heard the providers reasons why and I couldn't agree more. The thing is these banned mongers account for well under 1 percent of white guys they see or have seen. This hobby isn't a affirmative action industry. It can be very bias but let's face it were not talking about applying for a job or how you were treated when purchasing a car. We're talking about a providers mouth wrapped around a cock or a cock in slit or ass. The provider does and should have the right to say who's cock is entering them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badboy2  [View Original Post]
    This can be a touchy subject that's been asked about before and can get downright ugly when discussed to long. I've asked this question to providers and these are the various answers I've got from them. For some girls, its preference, just like we have preference for a blonde, redhead, brunette etc. Some women have a sponsor who is black and he don't want them seeing AA clients. The sponsor has a fear that AA client will lure her away. There are some who don't want to deal with the larger penis size or stamina. This is not to say other clients are not like that, but I was told that most non-black clients have smaller penis's and cum quicker. They like seeing the average older white male, because they are in and out and it's easy money. Also, if providers intend to rip-off a customer by shorting them on time or using some other rip off tactic, it's easier to accomplish with non-ethnic customers. These providers think that most white men are easily intimidated by their AA sponsors and will just leave when they are ripped off. AA clients are thought to be not easily intimidated by another AA. Some providers have had a bad experience and don't want to chance it again. I've also been told that there are some white men who won't see them if they know they see AA men. The funny thing is, they see AA men anyway, but advertise that they don't. Age is another factor, most don't see AA men below a certain age due to immaturity. There are many reasons each provider may have as why they don't see AA men, to many to list here. Ultimately they have to live with their decision.

    With that being said, I'm sure there are AA mongers who just want to see a provider just like anyone else and do not fill the stereotypical / fictional character created in the minds of most folks. I don't see providers who have no AA listed in their ads because most turn out to be rip-offs or just shitty providers anyway. That's my preference, although some may be very good and are not rip-offs, that's just my preference. Overall, it's not a good business model. I wouldn't limit my dollars, but it ultimately depends on the individual and their experience. As mongers, I feel regardless of our ethnic background we all want one thing, a hottie that provides great service that fits our spending tolerance. I'm sure other senior and non senior members will chime in, but keep it civil people. Regardless of how we feel, we can still be civil with one another.

  6. #3335

    Most common reasons I've been told

    The most common reasons I was told why most providers won't see AA is: 1) Many can be too rough. This isn't referring to them having big dicks. 2) Most but not all come in dirty. 3) Many will try and get the girl to work for them. 4) Every provider I know who's been beat up and robbed stated it was never by a White man or Asian man. The heavy majority were black men. 4) The absolute most common reason I've been told is they always try and haggle wanting big discounts and never want to pay up front.

    The Providers were from every race. I did find it interesting that the majority of harshest views of AA men came from AA women.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badboy2  [View Original Post]
    This can be a touchy subject that's been asked about before and can get downright ugly when discussed to long. I've asked this question to providers and these are the various answers I've got from them. For some girls, its preference, just like we have preference for a blonde, redhead, brunette etc. Some women have a sponsor who is black and he don't want them seeing AA clients. The sponsor has a fear that AA client will lure her away. There are some who don't want to deal with the larger penis size or stamina. This is not to say other clients are not like that, but I was told that most non-black clients have smaller penis's and cum quicker. They like seeing the average older white male, because they are in and out and it's easy money. Also, if providers intend to rip-off a customer by shorting them on time or using some other rip off tactic, it's easier to accomplish with non-ethnic customers. These providers think that most white men are easily intimidated by their AA sponsors and will just leave when they are ripped off. AA clients are thought to be not easily intimidated by another AA. Some providers have had a bad experience and don't want to chance it again. I've also been told that there are some white men who won't see them if they know they see AA men. The funny thing is, they see AA men anyway, but advertise that they don't. Age is another factor, most don't see AA men below a certain age due to immaturity. There are many reasons each provider may have as why they don't see AA men, to many to list here. Ultimately they have to live with their decision.

    With that being said, I'm sure there are AA mongers who just want to see a provider just like anyone else and do not fill the stereotypical / fictional character created in the minds of most folks. I don't see providers who have no AA listed in their ads because most turn out to be rip-offs or just shitty providers anyway. That's my preference, although some may be very good and are not rip-offs, that's just my preference. Overall, it's not a good business model. I wouldn't limit my dollars, but it ultimately depends on the individual and their experience. As mongers, I feel regardless of our ethnic background we all want one thing, a hottie that provides great service that fits our spending tolerance. I'm sure other senior and non senior members will chime in, but keep it civil people. Regardless of how we feel, we can still be civil with one another.

  7. #3334

    Same

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyist1234  [View Original Post]
    I've seen her so many times she never flakes never leaves me sitting in a parking lot for long periods of time she has never doubled booked me.

    She is honestly the most on point girl I see. I even have luck getting in contact with her when she doesn't have an ad posted. She is a little paranoid but I would be too LOL. I'd say keep trying and if you ever get the chance you better make it count.

    Chick is a sex addict who likes to get super nasty loves when you slap your dick across her face loves when you shove your duck down her throat as far as you can and loves to be pounded hard in every position. I feel like she won't see you again if you aren't freaky enough LOL.
    My experiences mirror hobbyist's.

  8. #3333
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberry  [View Original Post]
    Seems there are most if not all providers just plain do not want black customers. I, myself, am not black but we tried to get an entertainer for a friend who is going through a bad divorce. All the ad say no blacks. Shame! Why is it that blacks are treated this way? The list goes no BB, backdoor, and AA. No exception.
    This can be a touchy subject that's been asked about before and can get downright ugly when discussed to long. I've asked this question to providers and these are the various answers I've got from them. For some girls, its preference, just like we have preference for a blonde, redhead, brunette etc. Some women have a sponsor who is black and he don't want them seeing AA clients. The sponsor has a fear that AA client will lure her away. There are some who don't want to deal with the larger penis size or stamina. This is not to say other clients are not like that, but I was told that most non-black clients have smaller penis's and cum quicker. They like seeing the average older white male, because they are in and out and it's easy money. Also, if providers intend to rip-off a customer by shorting them on time or using some other rip off tactic, it's easier to accomplish with non-ethnic customers. These providers think that most white men are easily intimidated by their AA sponsors and will just leave when they are ripped off. AA clients are thought to be not easily intimidated by another AA. Some providers have had a bad experience and don't want to chance it again. I've also been told that there are some white men who won't see them if they know they see AA men. The funny thing is, they see AA men anyway, but advertise that they don't. Age is another factor, most don't see AA men below a certain age due to immaturity. There are many reasons each provider may have as why they don't see AA men, to many to list here. Ultimately they have to live with their decision.

    With that being said, I'm sure there are AA mongers who just want to see a provider just like anyone else and do not fill the stereotypical / fictional character created in the minds of most folks. I don't see providers who have no AA listed in their ads because most turn out to be rip-offs or just shitty providers anyway. That's my preference, although some may be very good and are not rip-offs, that's just my preference. Overall, it's not a good business model. I wouldn't limit my dollars, but it ultimately depends on the individual and their experience. As mongers, I feel regardless of our ethnic background we all want one thing, a hottie that provides great service that fits our spending tolerance. I'm sure other senior and non senior members will chime in, but keep it civil people. Regardless of how we feel, we can still be civil with one another.

  9. #3332

    Londyn: update

    Quote Originally Posted by RangerStl  [View Original Post]
    That is correct she was going by tattoo Barbie for a while.
    Apparently she has decided to go back to Tattoo Barbie.

    https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...107/3144745898

  10. #3331
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberry  [View Original Post]
    Seems there are most if not all providers just plain do not want black customers. I, myself, am not black but we tried to get an entertainer for a friend who is going through a bad divorce. All the ad say no blacks. Shame! Why is it that blacks are treated this way? The list goes no BB, backdoor, and AA. No exception.
    I've asked this question to providers many times. I'm not black I'm Indian so I'll always confirm since I've been turned away at the door before. 90% of the time the response is that they've been raped by a black guy in the past, which I highly doubt, but it's always follows by "I'm not racist" sure you're not. I think there are a fair amount of younger guys probably ripping them off and that's where their bad experience has come from, and the majority of them may have been black, but it's easier for them to say they were sexually assaulted, especially in the #metoo era.

  11. #3330

    Why?

    Seems there are most if not all providers just plain do not want black customers. I, myself, am not black but we tried to get an entertainer for a friend who is going through a bad divorce. All the ad say no blacks. Shame! Why is it that blacks are treated this way? The list goes no BB, backdoor, and AA. No exception.

  12. #3329

    Probably not feeling your vibe

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueOne1977  [View Original Post]
    This chick is a huge flake. I've tried on and off for almost a year to set something up. She will respond and we end up talking about specific times and then she always flakes. Excuses every time. Something wrong with this girl. I don't know what is up with any reviews about her because she seems impossible to work with.
    I've seen her so many times she never flakes never leaves me sitting in a parking lot for long periods of time she has never doubled booked me.

    She is honestly the most on point girl I see. I even have luck getting in contact with her when she doesn't have an ad posted. She is a little paranoid but I would be too LOL. I'd say keep trying and if you ever get the chance you better make it count.

    Chick is a sex addict who likes to get super nasty loves when you slap your dick across her face loves when you shove your duck down her throat as far as you can and loves to be pounded hard in every position. I feel like she won't see you again if you aren't freaky enough LOL.

  13. #3328
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobydude1000  [View Original Post]
    https://escortbabylon.net/review_list/3143965741

    Octavia was the name a while back. Arranged for a date. Sent texts leading up to the time to assure her that I was on time. When I arrived. Crickets. Told her I was leaving. No response. Figured I'd park across the street for a few minutes and as suspected she had another date. Got into a vehicle with a guy and they headed to Jack in Box for lunch. Then a short drive to the county health department. Her friend parked and waited for her. She sent a text about an hour later saying that she fell asleep. I told her that I saw her leave. Crickets forever. Draw your own conclusions. This was a couple months back. Needless to say that was my first and last attempt. Be safe.
    That's a bummer. I hate when that happens. I've had it done to me a couple times with the last one being Destiny Monroe over on the east side. I remember going back to my car so pissed off that she wouldn't answer my knocks on her door or even a text message. So I sat in my car for a few minutes to cool off before I took off driving like a mad man and all of a sudden she gets out of another car with some guy walking hand in hand and they go into her place together. I never heard from her until a couple months later when I texted her to find out why she did that to me. All she said was "oh yeah sorry about that. Maybe I can make it up to you sometime. " No thanks *****! I hope her business has tanked the same way she has.

  14. #3327

    Desperate AF

    First time posting. LOOOOOONG time lurker. Thank you all for your knowledge.

    https://stlouis.rubratings.com/121102

    I have come across this ad for YEARS, but have been too cowardly to pull the trigger. Does anyone have any intel? Real? Fake? Scam?

    I'm DYING here. Appreciate any info.

    Semper,

    JB.

  15. #3326

    Ghost of the week

    https://escortbabylon.net/review_list/3143965741

    Octavia was the name a while back. Arranged for a date. Sent texts leading up to the time to assure her that I was on time. When I arrived. Crickets. Told her I was leaving. No response. Figured I'd park across the street for a few minutes and as suspected she had another date. Got into a vehicle with a guy and they headed to Jack in Box for lunch. Then a short drive to the county health department. Her friend parked and waited for her. She sent a text about an hour later saying that she fell asleep. I told her that I saw her leave. Crickets forever. Draw your own conclusions. This was a couple months back. Needless to say that was my first and last attempt. Be safe.

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